New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

x-post Love the Beatles. Hate Beatles, Inc, which as any Beatles fan will tell you has more or less dragged its feet on all things catalog - reissues, remastering, etc. - or outright done the wrong thing. The ill-will I alluded to was toward the business side, because the music remains unimpeachable.

there are maybe 10-15 people, worldwide, who do not already have digital copies of every album and who also follow the beatles reissues/remasters closely enough to have an opinion about how the beatles operate as a publishing business.

AND I AM NINE OF THEM

are you angry that the box set is not free?

MAN RINGO BETTER HAND DELIVER ME THAT SHIT IS ALL IM SAYIN

WITH AN AUTOGRAPH.

guys, my mom was pretty interested in this whole "beatles on itunes" thing. she expressed an interest in buying an album or two this way, although the full catalog would be "way too much beatles"

fwiw she lost her albums on vinyl a few decades ago, don't think she's ever bought any since then. maybe listened when my little sister had albums.

Apple TV will make sense in a couple of years when Jobs finally figures a way to lock the internet in his proprietary box.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 November 2010 00:37 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's not that, it's the sheer amount of stuff that's badly implemented. You can't play songs unless they're checked in iTunes, you can't control photo transitions in manual mode, you can't run a slideshow of more than 10 photos at a time, etc etc. This thing desperately wants a software update.

who unchecks songs in itunes??

lol i was just trying to get the check column to disappear the other day

the beatles are the george lucas of musicians. discuss.

what is a ping.

Yes yes yes 100%. btw Lucas is going to re-release his dumb Star Wars movies YET AGAIN but in fake 3D this time.

who unchecks songs in itunes??

aaagh such an Apple fanboy response (whether you are an Apple fanboy or not). I have ~95Gb of music and a 60Gb iPod in the car, without checking I can't auto-sync. Doesn't make sense for Apple TV use.

i uncheck because some songs ruin albums, but i'm enough of a completist nerd that i can't bring myself to just delete them

what happened to linux, aa?

aaagh such an Apple fanboy response (whether you are an Apple fanboy or not). I have ~95Gb of music and a 60Gb iPod in the car, without checking I can't auto-sync. Doesn't make sense for Apple TV use.

― Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

fanboy response? i dont even know what unchecking does!! it has never occurred to me to 'check' or 'uncheck' songs

I guess most people use playlists rather than unchecking in that scenario, AA. Sucks that you went with unchecking.

aaagh such an Apple fanboy response (whether you are an Apple fanboy or not). I have ~95Gb of music and a 60Gb iPod in the car, without checking I can't auto-sync. Doesn't make sense for Apple TV use.

― Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

fanboy response? i dont even know what unchecking does!! it has never occurred to me to 'check' or 'uncheck' songs

― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

check this box if youre a fanboy

what unchecking does slocki, aa, is tell itunes that you dont want to listen to that song, ever, not even on yr apple tv

that's right, but i think in practice people also use it like aa, to define a subset of the library to be synced to an ipod.

it would be better for aa to define a playlist of stuff he doesn't want to sync, a smart playlist of everything not in that playlist, and then sync his ipod with that smart playlist.

or use linux

also not to be a dick or nuthin but "unchecking" as a way to keep an ipod sync'd with a larger HD library is a baffling practice, and needlessly labor intensive. just make an "IPOD" playlist, and sync that.

it would be better for aa to define a playlist of stuff he doesn't want to sync, a smart playlist of everything not in that playlist, and then sync his ipod with that smart playlist.

― caek, Saturday, November 20, 2010 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is a pisstake, right

haha ya, that is the inverse of what you should do, which is what gbx said you should do.

no, that way is better because then new music is on your ipod by default, which is probably what you want (and how checks work)

what if your ipod is named "old classics"

i mean you can create an ipod playlist too, obv. point is there are thousands of ways to define a subset to sync without ticking the "i never want to hear this song" button

Yeah, gbx's makes more sense in a way, in that new stuff will be added to the iPod by default. The other way, you constantly have to be adding stuff to it (unless you have an "added in last three months" playlist synced as well (which is what I do).

Suppose it depends on whether you're more likely to want new stuff added or not added to the iPod.

what i did is write an applescript to sb noobs directly from itunes

Yeah, gbx's makes more sense in a way, in that new stuff will be added to the iPod by default.

no, that's what my way does. gbx's way you have to add new stuff to the ipod playlist. gbx sucks.

What if you just want shuffle your whole library? Easier to hit that button than to make a playlist.

sometimes i make a playlist and call it like 'my demonic black metal playlist'

oh i see, caek. i guess maybe that's more elegant than syncing a "new music" playlist and a "ipod" playlist, but i rarely ever actually listen to music on my iphone, so most of the stuff on it is purposely selected for, like, parties at other people's houses or w/e

xp hey wait a minute

yeah, the kind of gardening aa is doing or i'm suggesting only makes sense when your ipod is like 2/3 the size of your full collection. obviously if it's bigger than your collection you just sync the lot. and if it's like 5% the size of your collection you'll either just say "give me a bunch or random songs" or "sync from this little ipod playlist i manually created" or "sync 'my demonic black metal playlist'"

dude u have one of those too! *hi5*

no, that's what my way does. gbx's way you have to add new stuff to the ipod playlist. gbx sucks.

Yeah - sorry. I got your two names mixed up. I meant yours was better!

the beatles are the george lucas of musicians. discuss.

Maybe if "Let It Be...Naked" had permanently replaced the Phil Spector mix in the catalog. Also thankfully they havent gone into Revolver and overdubbed rap beats or something to stay up-to-date. "Love" is kinda silly but it's not like they put it out and said "This release makes 'Abbey Road' obsolete and we are eliminating that original record from the catalog."

They're kinda the opposite of George Lucas, actually. Imagine Star Wars only available on VHS until this year, released on DVD with no 'Special Edition' stuff or bonus content whatsoever.

seriously, the whole point of unchecking is to say "I don't want to sync this" "I don't want to hear this" "I don't want this to come up on shuffle". That's what it's for!

My itunes library outgrew my ipod a long time ago. I manually sync it. I throw in some playlists, throw in some records I want to hear. When I get bored with those, I delete them and put other stuff on.

yep. point is you should only uncheck a song if you never want to hear it on any device other than the mac itself.

*hi5*

<3 saturday nights on ilx when my phd thesis is due in 12 days

if it weren't for the last minute, etc...

s1oc there's more, I'll reply later when I has a kbd

i don't understand people who auto-synch their music libraries.

they're not like you

Orrite. sl1cki, 10+ yrs ago Apple fanboys were (and sometimes still are) of the 'why would you want to do that?' variety. If in Windows you have a problem e.g. your mouse pointer speed is too slow you can ask for help and get an answer. If you were on a Mac and asked the same question you'd get 'why would you want to make your mouse go faster?' and a zombie face. It was with anything though, including stuff like networking problems and busted hardware that literally LITERALLY rendered certain functions 100% useless. They'd just accept that their Apple product was perfect and that anyone who wanted to do anything useful or necessary was mentally inferior in some way.

Checking music and selecting the 'sync only checked songs' option for yr iPod is exactly 348573498573948579345 times easier than (a) manually dragging everything you want to listen to every time you sync or (b) making bloody playlists. The Apple TV displays all unchecked music and allows you to select it but refuses to play it. Of course the Apple fanboi solution (as per above) is to stop whining and do as you are told but that make literally LITERALLY nil sense in this context, as does much of the stupid Apple TV implementation.

caek: Linux is still happy on one laptop but I need something that runs MS Office, Adboce CSx &c. and Windows is a bag of shit.

LITERALLY nil sense

Making playlists and syncing those seems like the only way to ensure that I can fit everything onto my ipod though? I can see how many GB the playlist is and trim it down as needed so it fits when I sync it, without iTunes copying half a record over or something.

I think I figured out how to get rid of the check column because I don't have it and never understood the point of it.

almanac, you're insane. what's easier, unclicking every little checkbox on this page:

http://grab.by/grabs/8c7d5651e885c16c5821a4d7af74b891.png

or just selecting all and dragging them to a playlist?

two clicks + a drag vs. 40 fiddly little clicks

i had no idea what that checkbox was for until i saw this thread.
when i want to listen to something on my ipod i drag it across from my library.
when i get fed up of it i delete it from my ipod.
guess this makes me the worst kind of savage tho.