New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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I'm not actually that bothered about orientation being a software switch, as I always found the physical switch quite fiddly to find with my cl,sy fingers and stupid brain. But I do object to the switch now doing nothing at all.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

can't tell you -- still not upgrading till they cave. Or I do.

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Come on in, the water's mostly fine. Not noticed sluggishness as a result of multitasking yet.

Slightly annoyingly, app switching to my Twitter client of choice, Osfoora, still seems to suffer from the same two-second lag before displaying my timeline that it has when launching it from scratch. Maybe it just needs a 4.2 update.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sold on the new Twitter client now they've fixed some of the dafter UI stuff. I like the layers a lot.

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's pretty good, especially with the notifications it now has. But it's missing a few things. When I view someone's profile, I like that Osfoora tells me whether they are following me or not. And, being ego-crazed, I like having access to "My tweets, retweeted".

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, odd it doesn't have the followback status -- the iPhone one does. It has yr tweets retweeted too, but doesn't tell you who by!

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't find yr tweets retweeted. Where have they hidden it?

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Profile > retweets > my tweets, rtd.. (iPhone only, like the follow back status)

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, yeah, iPhone only.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

As someone who primarily uses the iPad for displaying reference images for painting, I am pretty pissed about the loss of the orientation lock. That is all.

jeff, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Really nice to have quick access to brightness on that panel where the orientation lock is.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, a hell of a lot less chequerboarding when I scroll through long web pages. I'm really surprised how much better this update makes the iPad.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

jeff, it's not lost, just changed to a software thing instead of a hardware one.

That said, it's still a loss in a way. IMO the reason the switch makes sense on the iPhone is because switching whether the ringer/speaker is on is one of the top phone functions. Really, this just makes me think that having audio alerts on the iPad is going to be more common, which I don't really need.

mh, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

that's true, it is not lost. but now it's an annoying minor process, especially when i am constantly doing it because i have to rotate the ipad a lot based on what i am working on. will probably add a minute or two of tedium to my day. i will take this one for the team so that each person who is constantly muting and unmuting their ipad will be able to save 5 seconds each day.

jeff, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

This really is one of Apple's dumber decisions. I know Jobs is pathologically scared of buttons but the orientation lock was put there for a reason. Oh btw from December the accelerator on all Mazda cars will suddenly become the radio on/off button. Ridiculous. I don't have an iPad btw.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

makes literally nil sense

max, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

yo aa which linux tablet u recommend

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

But Apple has been partial to some pretty awful design decisions lately (iPod Nano Touch, new iPod Shuffle, Game Centre fit-out).

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I suspect that is a zing but couldn't and wouldn't advise buying a Linux tablet regardless.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i blame steve jobs for these awful design decisions

caek, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

going to "uncheck" apple from the "playlist" of companies i respect

max, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i blame steve jobs for these awful design decisions

― caek, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 08:02 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The dumber ones (except iPad switch) do seem to have happened around the time jobso was sick.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

what a disaster for apple

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

(somebody had to)

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually find the orientation lock a pain in the ass to use when the iPad is in a case (both figuring out where it is + fitting my finger between the edges of the case) so double-clicking the home button is preferable. Also brightness control there is great too.

My guess is they'll get rid of the physical button altogether in the next revision, since a mute switch on the ipad is pretty much useless, considering you can just hold down the volume button for a sec.

Charlesburg, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

alright some freelance ass ilxor pitch a story abt jeff painting from an ipad, lets all scratch each others backs

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

prob with doing the hardware lock button in software is the damn thing moves. So if you're in the wrong orientation you need to chase it around. Compared to the hardware one, where you can move the iPad and lock/relock as you go.

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

You know what would solve this problem? BUTTONS.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

xp yeah, but in the dark seeing the "button" on the screen is much easier than fishing around the edge of the case. I actually haven't installed 4.2 yet, so maybe it's not as good as I think.

Charlesburg, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

dunno bout that: you can even find the real button with yr eyes shut

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

They should let you do some special figure of 8 touch gesture or something to lock it.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

or just let the switch fulfil its destiny

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Or just wedge YET ANOTHER function into the home button, like treble-click-pause-double-click-chuck-a-handstand to go landscape and treble-click-pause-double-click-lick-your-elbow to go back to portrait.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I think maybe I went off that switch after getting an iPad case. It never seemed as easy to find after that.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually even quadruple-clicking of the home button would be quite OK.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

They should let you operate the whole thing in morse code clicks of the home button.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

You know what would solve this problem? BUTTONS.

― Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:42 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

minimal hardware buttons is central to the whole concept of the iphone/pad/touch format thats currently roiling the entire tech world

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I preferred the iPod when it had a mechanical scroll wheel.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

definitely. never ever got the hang of really fast scrolling with the touchwheel models

stet, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

stet, re: switch, there's a big difference with vs. without the case. But I see your point.

Also, iPad with case >>>> iPad without case (and I usually hate any sort of case, eg on phones), but that's a diff discussion.

Charlesburg, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

god apple is so bad at product design

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

minimal hardware buttons is central to the whole concept of the iphone/pad/touch format thats currently roiling the entire tech world

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 09:16 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yes but I think jobso is taking it too far. He has a NO BUTTONS hammer and everything looks to him like a nail.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

the iphone truly is a disaster

markers, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I am trading Steve Jobs off of my team in Madden as soon as I get home.

jeff, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys i just read abt this :( http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/1816257

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Lame.

markers, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

9/11 changed everything

jeff, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I know it would upset the no-buttons freaks, but DAMN a d-pad and a couple of buttons would be great for gaming.

schwantz, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Took me at least nine months to work out what an iPod was for. The whole concept of a CD walkman without CDs was so foreign that I had no frame of reference. That and the name 'iPod' doesn't exactly explain its function. I thought maybe it was a multipurpose PDA or something.

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

nine long months staring at that thing in your hand, brow furrowed

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link


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