Sarah Silverman: Funny or not? Hot or not?

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I mean, I know it's in the thread title

Thread title asks for opinions. People want to debate opinions = long discussions. End of bewilderment.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think it's that weird to talk about whether she's attractive. Maybe a little weird to focus on individual body parts, but I think it's only really strange to talk about it on an Internet message board. It's the kind of discussion you usually have with your bros.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's weird.

not to jump back on the girl wagon, but we'd never have a board that talked about every little detail on a guy comedian. i mean, who gives a fuck if jerry seinfeld has hairy arms? who honestly cares that sarah silberman does?! is she only worthy if she's fuck-able? is she funnier if she is? it's annoying.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

It's certainly not one women would have about Dave Attell.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

is she only worthy if she's fuck-able? is she funnier if she is?

If you want to know these questions, you should start a thread with these questions in the title.

She certainly looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I strive for Addison DeWitt, anyway

Good man!

Cub seems to like her jokes and think she's fine, so he's asking if he's alone in this, or if there are others. I happen to know some girls who find, Dennis Leary, for example, or Jon Stewart, handsome so I don't think it's illegitimate to ask if others do as well. I think she's a very pretty example of a type of Jewess that I find attractive but if that's not your thing, no amount of PC exhortation will make you fancy her.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

teh funny = teh sexy for women though. Men have yet to evolve that far.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

She also looks like she's got that kind of translucent skin where you can see blue veins in her ass, legs and bottom of her breasts.

i guess my hot is not your hot.

I think she's funny.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The term "Jewess" has always weirded me out for some reason.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

(not as much as She certainly looks familiar's posts though)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I think "Jewess" (and "Negress," for that matter) sound weird because they still carry a whiff of that 19th-C.-ish classification of humans as belonging to separate species. She's not a woman who happens to be Jewish -- she is a Jewess.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

'SHE CERTAINLY LOOKS FAMILIAR' THINKS SQARAH SILVERMANN IS UGLY MMMMMKAY? DEBATE!

XPOST

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Haven't you heard of science's latest triumph, Dr. Morbius- the italics tag?

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw Jesus Is Magic over the weekend, and though it was generally funn, it was pretty underwhelming. Maybe it's in part due to the fact that she's still recycling a lot of the same jokes from over the past decade, and every bit of press quotes those jokes over and over.

I think that she does have pretty good deliverary, but her stand up has a really choppy flow and no sense of direction. Some people can make up for this by throwing in lots of funny extemperaneous dialogue between the established jokes in their set (Patton Oswalt is a good example of this), but she just seems formless. I definitely prefer stand ups who do sets that have a clear beginning and end, and work through recurring themes. (Eddie Izzard, for example.)

As for her looks - yeah, she's attractive. I guess some people aren't into cute Jewish girls, but whatever.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the movie like 70 minutes long with skits? So there's probably like 50 minutes of actual stand-up?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Something like that, yeah.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

that's actually a lot

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with talking about whether she's attractive or not, it just seems like a really weird thing that attaches to female comedians. I mean, geez, within the comedy world she's like practically Marilyn Monroe (and I say that figuring I'm one of very few people who find Laura Kightlinger weirdly alluring).

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Laura Kightlinger is really pretty! So is Margaret Cho.

I can think of a lot of really attractive female comedians, actually.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the "wow, a funny hot girl" thing is really played out and condescending. But for me, I look for humor and wit in women. That's one of the most attractive qualities imaginable, as far as I'm concerned.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Bonnie Mcfarland is hot (and funny):

http://www.hahaha.com/images/television/just-for-laughs-series/bonnie_mcFarlane.jpg

She looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I like how 'jewess' makes people weird out, but I'm perverse that way. Sometimes I refer to my gf as a jewess and sometimes (à la Bierce) as a shebrew. She just rolls her eyes.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks for saying that, matthew. i agree.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

what does she brew?

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Speaking of recycling the same jokes over and over, in the past week I've read about half a dozen prominent new assessments or profiles of Sarah Silverman, and they've all been exactly the same. And three were in Slate!

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But, if this is the same Bonnie McFarlane (and I think it is), then it is amazing what a little hair dye can do.

http://www.vidiot.com/UPN/images/SS/SSPub202s.jpg

xpost: isn't anybody weirded out by the sexism of jewess or negress?

She looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

That's what was refreshing about the Ebert review; he hardly talked about the jokes at all and basically focused on how it wasn't really a very good MOVIE.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Re the sexism of those terms, it's in the same category as poetess or aviatrix or editrix, which is to say mostly just old-fashioned. (Although it's interesting to me that actress and dominatrix don't seem to have fallen out of favor -- why?)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Ebert was right on. The jokes were fine, but the construction of the movie was just awful. The editing was especially terrible.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Bonnie Mcfarland is hot (and funny):

surely you are from the British Isles, then?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost: isn't anybody weirded out by the sexism of jewess or negress?

Sexism? It's merely concision.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

without reading any of this thread,
1.funny!
2.hot!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I feel like these days "actress" is a little vexed -- among people in the industry themselves, you'll hear women call themselves actors quite a bit. Though there's still kind of a claim wrapped into it, a claim of seriousness -- like, "I am an artist, not some fluffy made-up starlet."

With "dominatrix" I think it's just that the sex matters more explicitly!

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder what her Halloween costume was.

I read that it was sexy hitler - funny and hot!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've heard women use "actor," too. I just noticed that it hadn't quite caught on.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The whole actor/actress thing amuses me 'cause in French, feminists have tried to do exactly the opposite in one sense. The word écrivain, a msculine noune, for example, is the word for writer and starting in the 70's or 80's certain French feminists arguing that they should be able to call themselves écrivaines, a freshly coined female noun.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, look at the hair on that arm!

Hairy Arms, Hairy Arms, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

That's certainly the first thing I noticed.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot about Jewess Jeans. Funny, disco-dancing stuff.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Re the sexism of those terms, it's in the same category as poetess or aviatrix or editrix, which is to say mostly just old-fashioned.

The modern word "sexism" doesn't really get at what's unsettling about Jewess/Negress, which has more to do with racism, alterity, and the droit de seigneur. The linguistic sexism is trivial; the loaded element is its implied subhuman sexualization of the object - as jaymc notes, it places her in a different species altogether (the oh-so-asking-for-it female counterpart of the leering, hooknosed Ashkenazi or the robust and rapacious Negro punished with death for daring to look a white woman in the eye.)

Let's ask JP Sartre! "There is in the words 'a beautiful Jewess' a very special sexual signification, one quite different from that contained in the words 'beautiful Rumanian,' 'beautiful Greek,' or 'beautiful American,' for example. This phrase carries an aura of rape and massacre..."

(Sarah Silverman is of course funny and fine. A little wax works wonders.)

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Sourpuss, I apologize for snappishly grouping you in with fucktards. No excuse.

I do think Lenny Bruce became MUCH less funny once weighed down with legal matters and smack, but arrests aside there was more derring-do in his approach than SS's, which seem on the 'meta' side (again, I haven't seen more than a few minutes of her).

On the non-hot side, one more "interesting but not-so-funny" view (he DOES think she challenges liberals, like Bruce):

http://www.chicagoreader.com/movies/archives/2005/1105/051111.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to mention that review earlier but I guess I forgot. I like that he twists Kehr's Animal House critique.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

“When God gives you AIDS, make lemonAIDS,” she urges the audience at one point. It’s a clever, writerly line

.......uhh

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Besides, a woman that points to her ass this much in public has me believing she's believing she's hotter than she really is, despite her "I'm not hot" cutesy routine.

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/interviews/images/sarah/sarahbutt.jpg

Sarah Silverman Must Die, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

you must have a lot of time* on your hands to worry about what sarah silverman believes about herself, and to care

*a lot of time, and not a lot of other-person's-ass

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

the pointing at her ass thing has to end. almost as unoriginal as a girl doing the about-to-lick-the-female-next-to-her pose for a picture. yawn.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

lenny bruce = hotter than sarah silverman

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

At least she doesn't (?) do it on stage, as Lenny didn't shoot up there.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/85/2126/640/jews.jpg

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link


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