New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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Sorry, by 'could' I meant 'knew what I had to do in order to'. There's a QoS section in the router's menu thingy but it might as well be written in Arabic.

leo tldrstoy (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

If Enable QoS checkbox is selected, choose a default DSCP mark to automatically mark incoming traffic without reference to a particular classifier.
If Enable Qos checkbox is not selected, all QoS will be disabled for all interfaces.
The default DSCP mark is used to mark all egress packets that do not match any classification rules.
In ATM mode, maximum queues can be configured: 16
In PTM mode, maximum queues can be configured: 8
For each Ethernet interface, maximum queues can be configured: 4
If you disable WMM function in Wireless Page, queues related to wireless will not take effects.

http://www.anatomorphex.com/picts/shatter/FX013_EXPLODING_HEAD.jpg

leo tldrstoy (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha, that looks like the stuff that was on my parents' router after my friend put a "good" firmware on it

high on features, low on comprehensibility

mh, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

If there were an option that said 'MAKE ITUNES SHIT PLAY THROUGH APPLE TV WITHOUT STOPPING ALL THE FUCKING TIME' I would just tick it.

leo tldrstoy (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that is the main feature of Apple's own wireless gear, that it has that ticked by default.

mh, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

According to research I did yesterday loads of people with Airport thingoes have the same problem.

gay Air New Zealand flight attendant Will Coxhead (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Are they using 802.11n? If so, seems pretty messed up that it's saturating the network.

mh, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep.

gay Air New Zealand flight attendant Will Coxhead (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Mac App Store opens 6th January US time, according to Steve Jobs who was 'speaking through a press release'.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder if that's like 'talking through your arse'

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I am stoked for this btw. Guessing it will have a huge impact on Mac software sales and availability.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder if that's like 'talking through your arse'

Genuine lol.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah thinking this will be v good for mac development xp

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Even it only makes buying things easier (no manual credit card payments etc.). Impulse purchases on the iPhone are ridiculously easy to do because you don't have to jump through those hoops every time.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Best case: developers and publishers will find a market for apps that didn't exist, and programs will drop in price due to more sales.

Worst case: Half of the garbage from the iOS app store shows up on Mac OS poorly ported, or the people who can barely get their apps to compile but somehow got approved start releasing a million shitty applications

mh, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

both those things will happen ime

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yep

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

In the longer term, do people see this as a step towards a world where you can only install App Store apps and have to jailbreak your Mac to put non-authorised software on it?

Alba, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Ultimately yes, but jailbreaking will always be viable and easy.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Nah, I really don't want that. Psychologically, feeling like an OUTLAW living in fear of the bricking sheriff doesn't appeal to me.

Alba, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Bah, as long as these people implement geographical restrictions I will never have any guilt about jailbreaking anything.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not guilt, it's just not wanting to have something else to worry about (ie things not working because I've jailbroken it)

Alba, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

OS X isn't ever going to be locked out like that without major changes, but I could see the Apple seal of approval being a big factor in your success.

I'm wondering how long until Adobe or Microsoft has a "rival" app that's mostly a website wrapper with just their crap for buying their applications.

mh, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeh, there's no way they lock down OS X -- Microsoft and Adobe would never wear it, for one thing.

stet, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, I can see there being a hard distinction between home users of computers (iOS, probably a MBA-like iPad with a keyboard) and business users (full OS X but heaps expensive) in 3-4 years.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeh, there's no way they lock down OS X -- Microsoft and Adobe would never wear it, for one thing.

Why not? They might not like it, but Adobe don't much like Apple keeping Flash out of iOS either.

Alba, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, good point: when recently has Apple bent over backwards for anyone? Apple's used to calling the shots and everyone else is used to doing what they're told. Look at the whole Flash thing.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

(I'm not talking the near future, btw, I'm thinking maybe 5 years time? When perhaps the OS isn't OS X at all)

Alba, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

(oops, xp on the flash thing)

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like in the long run industry standard for all devices will be jailbreaking as a native switch

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

They're not going to give them 30% cut for the price of Office or Creative Suite-- It's bad enough they have to give them a huge cut to sell the physical boxes in Apple Stores. And Adobe are never, ever going to ship a copy of Photoshop without DRM again (which you *must* do on the App Store).

While an iPad without Flash is a pretty great thing, a Mac without Office, Creative Suite, etc etc is barely competitive with a PC. They'd cave, just like they did with Carbon, because the big software companies would both not make their apps available and then sue.

I can totally see iOS-style laptops/big touch devices in the future, yes. But they'll be selling general-purpose computers too, and you'll be able to install software from anywhere on them. They'll shove the Mac app store hard, but this it wont be exclusive. For one thing, it isn't intended for selling £1200 applications; it's designed to create a £3 app market. Final Cut and the other pro apps aren't going to be on it, for instance.

stet, Friday, 17 December 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

have heard photoshop cs5 for mac sucks massively, can anybody else confirm?

dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Everything since 5.0 sucks, tbh.

stet, Friday, 17 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

it has some pretty amazing new features but its def comically bloated and disjointed and just not up on the zeitgeist - havent really used it enough to say definitively tho tbh

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

For one thing, it isn't intended for selling £1200 applications; it's designed to create a £3 app market. Final Cut and the other pro apps aren't going to be on it, for instance.

I wouldn't be surprised if even that changed, especially if the developers/publishers see it as a way to greatly reduce piracy. Not holding my breath though.

Defecate on Myspace (Schlafsack), Friday, 17 December 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

they replaced http://grab.by/7Wro with http://grab.by/7Wrm which comes off oddly hilarious and wrong for the mouse pointer

on the other hand content aware fill is like magic

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

dang, I can get the student/teacher version of cs5 for like $100 - but the only app I would even maybe use is photoshop?

cs5 for $100 y/n

xp

dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

its available for free on the internet iirc - download the trial vers via adobe.com, change one system file and boom

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

For one thing, it isn't intended for selling £1200 applications; it's designed to create a £3 app market. Final Cut and the other pro apps aren't going to be on it, for instance.

OTM. I see the App Store as a pre-emptive move on whatever Google's notebook ends up using.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 17 December 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I roll legit

dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

have heard photoshop cs5 for mac sucks massively, can anybody else confirm?

It's Photoshop... what are you gonna do?

However InDesign CS5 is outstanding - best version of it ever.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 17 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Tbh with the high end pro apps I assume that most publishers look the other way wrt piracy because most of the people pirating are college students and the like who are the future ~creative professionals~, thus ensuring their future market share.

I may just be thinking this to justify the ~$5000 worth of software I "own," though.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 17 December 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Gruber just linked to this -- incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

that is some star trek shiz

taj mahazzle (cozen), Friday, 17 December 2010 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm floored. That is way too futuristic for 2010

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 17 December 2010 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah - is this actually for real?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 December 2010 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

eh u guys srsly are impressed

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Tbh with the high end pro apps I assume that most publishers look the other way wrt piracy because most of the people pirating are college students and the like who are the future ~creative professionals~, thus ensuring their future market share.

― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:47 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

basically how it works is everyone pirates this shit except companies w/like $3m+ revenue . speaking as a curent and past creative pro, hopefully not future, that is all

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if even that changed, especially if the developers/publishers see it as a way to greatly reduce piracy. Not holding my breath though.

It isn't that though, not like on iPhone. There's no drm on the app files -- the store rules say users have to be able to copy the files anywhere on any machine and still be able to run them. You're not allowed your own drm either.

The best you can do is a weak, insanely easy to crack, check to a system call to see if the guy running the app is the one who bought it. Pirate's dream.

stet, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

all software is basically a pirates dream, if pirates dreamt of software

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link


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