Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

But my favorite is still Rose. And I liked how she was with Mickey, reminded me of ppl I knew in my hometown who had been dating since godknows when.

ugh rose's mum was the pits

RARRR BRING YER CHAIR AND YER LADDER, IT'S CAGE MATCH TIME.

Oh I quite liked Rose's mum, she was a recognisable type.

Martha yesterday
http://www.jaaroncaststone.com/pics/wood_info_pages/plank_example.jpg

I liked her better than Rose, tbh. xp

lol @ GiS. someone please photoshop martha onto one of these planks of wood
http://www.fox-hound.us/misc/Keanu-Plank.jpg

Amy Pond still drives me round the twist bc she's so flighty and sort of, bipolar or something. Fun, and strange and cute but also routinely want to strangle her

LOLWUT:

Bill Pullman (Ruthless People, Independence Day) has signed on to star in the upcoming fourth season of Torchwood as a regular. Pullman — who joins series stars John Barrowman, Eva Myles and the just-cast Mekhi Phifer — will play Oswald Jones, a dangerously clever convicted murderer who escapes his lifelong prison sentence on a technicality and quickly becomes a media sensation. Genuinely repentant yet boiling with lust and rage, Oswald gets caught up in a terrifying worldwide crisis.

Weird.

I am loling right now imaging Bill Pullman "boiling with lust and rage".

bit like dan with K9 and Martha

I don't think I want Bill Pullman & Barrowman to make out. (And I am as a rule amenable to Barrowman making out with pretty much anyone)

They should bring back Spike from Buffy instead. James Marsters? Masters? that guy. Him.

I like this past season a lot. Victory of the Daleks was kinda crap (and also apparently written for Tennant)... but the weeping angel two-parter and the two-part finale were fantastic IMO. Thought the Beast Below was kinda dumb too, but it still had me in suspense.

What I love best about the season is that it did very little to resolve Amy's weird background the fact that her life just doesn't make sense. So that all has to still be resolved. Moffatt had us all convinced that her mysterious life had everything to do with the cracks but they were their own thing after all. Also the unresolved issue of someone in current day London trying to grow a new TARDIS....

Who could that be? My money is on Omega. He "died" in the 70s on Earth and if anyone would know how to make a TARDIS out of 20th/21st century tech it would be the original inventor of time travel himself. Assuming he got all that 'existing as anti-matter' stuff worked out...

Omega would be a good baddie to revive. Personally I'd like the Meddling Monk to make a reappearance, but can't see that happening.

K9 got his own series? Uh? Why?

I enjoyed most of the last DW series a lot, and not all of it was because the series before was so utterly atrocious.

AND THEN CRUSH THE PERSON WHO MADE THE DESIGNER DESIGN IT,

RIP K-9 creator Bob Baker, heaven needed the victim of Dang P3rry's bloody rage

Dan should be the next Master.

That would be as fantastic as Pope Dan.

OH, imagine the rages he would get into.

I got off the Amy Pond bus in episode three when she turned up without credentials at Churchill's office and he just let her have the run of the place. (1) she was in a ridiculous miniskirt (2) her miniskirt was ridiculous (3) Churchill would NEVER have done that EVER. Gatiss phoning it in as usual.

Then they ruined RUINED the weeping angels, then there was some silliness with Rory and I just got bored. Didn't watch the last few episodes (and I have watched Trial three times so my standards are not exactly stratospheric), although 'er indoors/Petula/SBF was particularly touched by the ending of Van Gogh despite her view that the whole rest of the episode was pants.

I'm with AG in liking Matt Smith but I still don't feel he has the gravitas to pull it off (granted Tennant is one hell of an act to follow). I'm also with Pashmina in being horrified by the compost that was 2009 (apart from Water(s) of Mars which had merit).

Martha was great and her stories were brilliant although Agyeman's acting was meh. Donna was top in all areas except the stories were not compelling. These are facts and I will challenge all comers.

you should watch the last three of S5 Adam, they were great

BTW we are showing Dr Who At The Proms AND A Christmas Carol on Boxing Day, and the tape for the latter is IN THE BUILDING already

O________O

;_;

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT WHEN I AM STANDING IN A CAGE HOLDING A CHAIR AND A LADDER

sorry. shouting a lot today. I had too much soda.

The thing that annoys me most about this year is that I had expected more inventiveness from Moffat. He's an intelligent and witty writer with real courage and excellent ideas, but it really feels like he was railroaded into protecting the property by playing it safe.

I like to think that now there's a RTD clause added to his contract like "ABSOLUTELY NO TARDIS CAR CHASES".

okay I'm ripping out the caps lock for the rest of the day

Amy is the Dom Passantino of Doctor Who, a barely fleshed out zing monster. Even Moffatt said as much, but maintains there is a reason for it and it's linked to the mid-season cliffhanger.

The fake TARDIS from The Lodger reminded me most of a Jagaroth spaceship, but then somebody who wasn't me did say Omega upthread...

hooray Schlafsack holds all my same opinions about S5 so i don't have to type them out.

tbh the new series started losing me in the second episode, when Matt Smith had to get all shouty and rageful about everyone choosing to use the forget-things machine. it felt too soon and too sudden to go full-on blamey rage guy, and to me it was the first sign that maybe moffat didn't have as firm a grip on the reins as i anticipated. and then there was amy miniskirting around saying lines clearly meant for donna in the dalek episode, and the bullshit about "o the weeping angels THINK you are watching them so they froze anyway, lol." i still watched the whole season, but i felt detached from it in a way i never did in even the worst pit of RTD hell ("planet of the dead" ugh).

hooray Schlafsack holds all my same opinions about S5 so i don't have to type them out.

<3

'Detached' is a brilliant way to describe this series btw. I really tried to get into this year but I just couldn't, and that overwhelming feeling of detachment hits me every time I entertain the thought of trying again.

Amy is the Dom Passantino of Doctor Who, a barely fleshed out zing monster.

also, eye candy

i know you have a thing for dom but c'mon now

ay what's wrong with ridiculous miniskirts

S5 was a marked improvement on just about every level. That one episode of Sarah Jane that Rusty wrote was an instant reminder of how unbearably clunking his scripts had become. I honestly don't think I could have stuck another DW series if he'd stuck around.

the season did suffer from the 2nd and 3rd eps being clunky in extremis but if you like Smith you MUST watch The Lodger adam!

the rules of the Angels being rewritten would annoy me enormously if the episodes weren't totally fantastic on their own terms

the rules of the Angels being rewritten

still not sure they were really, apart from the major thing about them all being Angels

tbh now i'm confused about how the whole "angels freeze because they THINK they are being observed" thing works. the old idea was that when you looked at the angels, YOU were the active force stopping them. you, resisting the urge to blink, were the force keeping them motionless. but now it's suggesting there's an element of choice involved? or something? "i think we should quantum lock now because we're being looked at...oh shit we're totally not being looked at, never mind."

sometimes my brain remembers the awesome first 5 minutes of the second ep and is still genuinely baffled to remember that it turned into Her Majesty vs the Space Dolphins

that should've been the title (space whale tho yeah?)

I enjoyed The Beast Below, largely cos I think Liz 10 is a great character, and Sophie Okenado is always terrific. It was a bit of mess, but at least a mess based on interesting ideas rather than here are some monsters which the Doctor must run away from.

Amy is the Dom Passantino of Doctor Who, a barely fleshed out zing monster.

That is just RONG, I love her. Maybe because I myself am a zing monster, I don't know.

Fans of Karen Gillan should check out this week's Shortlist magazine, available free from their nearest (UK) train station.
http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/gallery/615/karen-gillan-wants-a-word

she is as "fleshed out" as she need be for now and i really liked her interplay with the Doctor (inc the sex not love thing) and if she ends up saving the universe without his direct help at any point i will be pissed off. still don't think rory and her work as a couple but i like him too.

Oh FFS Amy isn't "barely fleshed out" (compared to who exactly? Rose? Martha? Any companion pre-1988?) her personality has been actually reset two or three times in the space of one series.

The one thing Tennant couldn't do was "gravitas". Smith is a bit better at it by virtue of having a deeper voice and being a bit uglier.

All the Moffat-penned ones were good, all the ones written by others were a bit balls.

This is it really. Don't think he played it remotely safe actually, if anything the last ep would have been too confusing for some viewers.

Moffat didn't write "Amy's Choice" or "The Lodger" and both of those are as good as Moffat's stories; actually both are better than Moffat's "The Beast Below".

The one thing Tennant couldn't do was "gravitas". Smith is a bit better at it by virtue of having a deeper voice and being a bit uglier.

disagree based largely on Human Nature/FOB and TGITF - i think only Rusty-written Tennant is where it didn't come off well