New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

It's not guilt, it's just not wanting to have something else to worry about (ie things not working because I've jailbroken it)

OS X isn't ever going to be locked out like that without major changes, but I could see the Apple seal of approval being a big factor in your success.

I'm wondering how long until Adobe or Microsoft has a "rival" app that's mostly a website wrapper with just their crap for buying their applications.

Yeh, there's no way they lock down OS X -- Microsoft and Adobe would never wear it, for one thing.

I dunno, I can see there being a hard distinction between home users of computers (iOS, probably a MBA-like iPad with a keyboard) and business users (full OS X but heaps expensive) in 3-4 years.

Yeh, there's no way they lock down OS X -- Microsoft and Adobe would never wear it, for one thing.

Why not? They might not like it, but Adobe don't much like Apple keeping Flash out of iOS either.

Yeah, good point: when recently has Apple bent over backwards for anyone? Apple's used to calling the shots and everyone else is used to doing what they're told. Look at the whole Flash thing.

(I'm not talking the near future, btw, I'm thinking maybe 5 years time? When perhaps the OS isn't OS X at all)

(oops, xp on the flash thing)

feel like in the long run industry standard for all devices will be jailbreaking as a native switch

They're not going to give them 30% cut for the price of Office or Creative Suite-- It's bad enough they have to give them a huge cut to sell the physical boxes in Apple Stores. And Adobe are never, ever going to ship a copy of Photoshop without DRM again (which you *must* do on the App Store).

While an iPad without Flash is a pretty great thing, a Mac without Office, Creative Suite, etc etc is barely competitive with a PC. They'd cave, just like they did with Carbon, because the big software companies would both not make their apps available and then sue.

I can totally see iOS-style laptops/big touch devices in the future, yes. But they'll be selling general-purpose computers too, and you'll be able to install software from anywhere on them. They'll shove the Mac app store hard, but this it wont be exclusive. For one thing, it isn't intended for selling £1200 applications; it's designed to create a £3 app market. Final Cut and the other pro apps aren't going to be on it, for instance.

have heard photoshop cs5 for mac sucks massively, can anybody else confirm?

Everything since 5.0 sucks, tbh.

it has some pretty amazing new features but its def comically bloated and disjointed and just not up on the zeitgeist - havent really used it enough to say definitively tho tbh

For one thing, it isn't intended for selling £1200 applications; it's designed to create a £3 app market. Final Cut and the other pro apps aren't going to be on it, for instance.

I wouldn't be surprised if even that changed, especially if the developers/publishers see it as a way to greatly reduce piracy. Not holding my breath though.

they replaced http://grab.by/7Wro with http://grab.by/7Wrm which comes off oddly hilarious and wrong for the mouse pointer

on the other hand content aware fill is like magic

dang, I can get the student/teacher version of cs5 for like $100 - but the only app I would even maybe use is photoshop?

cs5 for $100 y/n

xp

its available for free on the internet iirc - download the trial vers via adobe.com, change one system file and boom

For one thing, it isn't intended for selling £1200 applications; it's designed to create a £3 app market. Final Cut and the other pro apps aren't going to be on it, for instance.

OTM. I see the App Store as a pre-emptive move on whatever Google's notebook ends up using.

I roll legit

have heard photoshop cs5 for mac sucks massively, can anybody else confirm?

It's Photoshop... what are you gonna do?

However InDesign CS5 is outstanding - best version of it ever.

Tbh with the high end pro apps I assume that most publishers look the other way wrt piracy because most of the people pirating are college students and the like who are the future ~creative professionals~, thus ensuring their future market share.

I may just be thinking this to justify the ~$5000 worth of software I "own," though.

Gruber just linked to this -- incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs

that is some star trek shiz

I'm floored. That is way too futuristic for 2010

yeah - is this actually for real?

eh u guys srsly are impressed

Tbh with the high end pro apps I assume that most publishers look the other way wrt piracy because most of the people pirating are college students and the like who are the future ~creative professionals~, thus ensuring their future market share.

― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:47 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

basically how it works is everyone pirates this shit except companies w/like $3m+ revenue . speaking as a curent and past creative pro, hopefully not future, that is all

I wouldn't be surprised if even that changed, especially if the developers/publishers see it as a way to greatly reduce piracy. Not holding my breath though.

It isn't that though, not like on iPhone. There's no drm on the app files -- the store rules say users have to be able to copy the files anywhere on any machine and still be able to run them. You're not allowed your own drm either.

The best you can do is a weak, insanely easy to crack, check to a system call to see if the guy running the app is the one who bought it. Pirate's dream.

all software is basically a pirates dream, if pirates dreamt of software

I have heard photoshop cs5 for mac sucks massively, can anybody else confirm?

I have heard (from Mac fans) that the Mac version of Photoshop has been worse, performance-wise, than the PC version for a long time, that the code is more of a mess on the Mac side, and that you can see the difference by running the Windows version through Boot Camp.

only hitler would do that

what is up with this myth then of all creative dudes using apples

stet: I see all that and agree, but many people resort to privacy for a reason, whether it's cheaper or easier or circumvents unfair restrictions. If it's easy to buy something on the app store, fewer people will bother jailbreaking/pirating. $2,000 apps, yes, absolutely, piracy will always be rife.

what is up with this myth then of all creative dudes using apples

Well, partly it's a historically ingrained preference and partly ... being creative involves more than having the fastest running version of Photoshop.

fuck *throws photoshop into the trash*

creatives who used apples

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Adobe's relationship with Apple has sucked since right before the OS X days. I'd say it goes back to around PS 5 or so, if I remember correctly. Mac OS development became stagnant, Adobe started putting in more resources to get Photoshop on Windows going as a strong alternative, and a handful of shops here and there switched. There was a short stretch where Windows versions of PS were demonstrably faster than the Mac version on different tasks, and the UI seemed more back-ported from Windows in some aspects.

To Adobe's credit, Flash was Macromedia's, but Macromedia followed a similar path and completely dropped the ball on getting Flash running up to speed on MacOS for years. Part of it was due to Apple's shifting APIs and the question of how many people had adopted different OS X versions, but it would flat-out run better on Windows.

Now we've reached a point where Adobe's not able to work smoothly with Apple, Apple doesn't really give a shit because they're tired of mediocre Flash performance hobbling their perceived web browser performance, and it's just a clusterfuck because of past grudges.

Yes, that's about it. When Chizen took over Adobe he focused on Windows because of the smell of death hanging over the Mac and also because it was Windows and obviously the winner in everything for everyone. Apple had been fucking them about over the OS X transition anyway -- first insisting they've have to rewrite for Cocoa (YellowBox as was), then recanting and announcing Carbon. It's continued like that ever since -- they killed 64-bit Carbon at the last minute too, which is why CS4 Photoshop wasn't 64-bit on Mac but was on Windows.

It was just unfortunate for Adobe that the gamble on letting the Mac stagnate bit them hard when the iPhone took off and they couldn't get Flash in any sort of order for it. They've only just started making progress there, four years on.

So this Word Lens thing is real:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374474,00.asp

yeah dude i installed it this morning

kinda janky though

if you point it at spanish ppls' mouths does it live translate

xpost -- Well I figure you have to start somewhere with such a thing. Now that it can happen, what's next?

an app that steals the moon

Despicable gbx

haha busted

I like the idea of you being surrounded by a slew of tiny yellow goons, who I assume you term 'cheeseheads' while making them do manual labor so they can reward themselves with trips to Green Bay each Sunday.

Re: Word Lens

They need to make a "They Live" in-app translation pack, where every sign gets translated to "Consume" or "Don't Question Authority."

yes!

Word Lens isn't working worth shit on my 3gs

you are not one of the elect, sorry