New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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Gruber just linked to this -- incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

that is some star trek shiz

taj mahazzle (cozen), Friday, 17 December 2010 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm floored. That is way too futuristic for 2010

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 17 December 2010 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah - is this actually for real?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 December 2010 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

eh u guys srsly are impressed

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Tbh with the high end pro apps I assume that most publishers look the other way wrt piracy because most of the people pirating are college students and the like who are the future ~creative professionals~, thus ensuring their future market share.

― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:47 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

basically how it works is everyone pirates this shit except companies w/like $3m+ revenue . speaking as a curent and past creative pro, hopefully not future, that is all

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if even that changed, especially if the developers/publishers see it as a way to greatly reduce piracy. Not holding my breath though.

It isn't that though, not like on iPhone. There's no drm on the app files -- the store rules say users have to be able to copy the files anywhere on any machine and still be able to run them. You're not allowed your own drm either.

The best you can do is a weak, insanely easy to crack, check to a system call to see if the guy running the app is the one who bought it. Pirate's dream.

stet, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

all software is basically a pirates dream, if pirates dreamt of software

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I have heard photoshop cs5 for mac sucks massively, can anybody else confirm?

I have heard (from Mac fans) that the Mac version of Photoshop has been worse, performance-wise, than the PC version for a long time, that the code is more of a mess on the Mac side, and that you can see the difference by running the Windows version through Boot Camp.

Alba, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

only hitler would do that

ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link

what is up with this myth then of all creative dudes using apples

dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

stet: I see all that and agree, but many people resort to privacy for a reason, whether it's cheaper or easier or circumvents unfair restrictions. If it's easy to buy something on the app store, fewer people will bother jailbreaking/pirating. $2,000 apps, yes, absolutely, piracy will always be rife.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 December 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

what is up with this myth then of all creative dudes using apples

Well, partly it's a historically ingrained preference and partly ... being creative involves more than having the fastest running version of Photoshop.

Alba, Friday, 17 December 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck *throws photoshop into the trash*

dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Adobe's relationship with Apple has sucked since right before the OS X days. I'd say it goes back to around PS 5 or so, if I remember correctly. Mac OS development became stagnant, Adobe started putting in more resources to get Photoshop on Windows going as a strong alternative, and a handful of shops here and there switched. There was a short stretch where Windows versions of PS were demonstrably faster than the Mac version on different tasks, and the UI seemed more back-ported from Windows in some aspects.

To Adobe's credit, Flash was Macromedia's, but Macromedia followed a similar path and completely dropped the ball on getting Flash running up to speed on MacOS for years. Part of it was due to Apple's shifting APIs and the question of how many people had adopted different OS X versions, but it would flat-out run better on Windows.

Now we've reached a point where Adobe's not able to work smoothly with Apple, Apple doesn't really give a shit because they're tired of mediocre Flash performance hobbling their perceived web browser performance, and it's just a clusterfuck because of past grudges.

mh, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, that's about it. When Chizen took over Adobe he focused on Windows because of the smell of death hanging over the Mac and also because it was Windows and obviously the winner in everything for everyone. Apple had been fucking them about over the OS X transition anyway -- first insisting they've have to rewrite for Cocoa (YellowBox as was), then recanting and announcing Carbon. It's continued like that ever since -- they killed 64-bit Carbon at the last minute too, which is why CS4 Photoshop wasn't 64-bit on Mac but was on Windows.

It was just unfortunate for Adobe that the gamble on letting the Mac stagnate bit them hard when the iPhone took off and they couldn't get Flash in any sort of order for it. They've only just started making progress there, four years on.

stet, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

So this Word Lens thing is real:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374474,00.asp

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah dude i installed it this morning

kinda janky though

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

if you point it at spanish ppls' mouths does it live translate

sugg knight (cozen), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost -- Well I figure you have to start somewhere with such a thing. Now that it can happen, what's next?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

an app that steals the moon

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Despicable gbx

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

haha busted

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the idea of you being surrounded by a slew of tiny yellow goons, who I assume you term 'cheeseheads' while making them do manual labor so they can reward themselves with trips to Green Bay each Sunday.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Re: Word Lens

They need to make a "They Live" in-app translation pack, where every sign gets translated to "Consume" or "Don't Question Authority."

schwantz, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yes!

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Word Lens isn't working worth shit on my 3gs

mh, Friday, 17 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

you are not one of the elect, sorry

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

nah it doesn't work that well on mine either. good proof of concept, i'll check out a version that works in a year or so

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I was wrong, I was holding the phone sideways and it only works in vertical orientation. It works pretty ok

mh, Friday, 17 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I know I mentioned it in the other thread but the Pleco app does live OCR with trad and simp Chinese characters, so a bit like Word Lens but no on-the-fly photoshopping. Pleco is already fantastic but that little module makes it indispensable.

I thought my MBP caps lock was broken but just found this. Seriously impressed.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 December 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

which other thread? you use pleco too? neat!

dayo, Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I know, right? Easily top five of all apps. It's incredible and 100% necessary for learners.

btw it's this thread: iPhone apps S/D

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xp oops

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I splurged and got the whole package (with edu discount) - works a treat on iPad, too. haven't plunked the $15 for the OCR though, although I will definitely do so before my trip to beijing next week.

btw you probably have this already but

http://perapera.wordpress.com/perapera-kun/

is an awesome awesome firefox plug-in

dayo, Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, if I could just surgically remove myself from ILX I bet I would be learning all this Chinese. :/.

dayo, Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

ahaha yes. I'm doing a formal certification next year so I'll be forced to keep it up.

The OCR package is well worth the money, mainly because it saves you having to write a dozen chars if you just want to quickly read a sign or book cover. I bought the basic Pleco pack because I didn't need 500 extra dictionaries.

Cheers for Perapera-kun btw, I used it for a while but at some point it went haywire and I had to remove it.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Test-driving an iPad this Christmas holiday. What should I be using this for? I'm ten minutes in - browsing ilx at the airport and I have to say its a bit awkward!

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 19 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

It gets easier.

Web browse like crazy, install Instapaper, Flipboard, Twitter, Netflix, Carcassonne, Reeder, Cloudreaders, iA Writer, and maybe a few other games.

mh, Sunday, 19 December 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

why is it awkward v? (I don't have one)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

it's awkward because you can't type with your hands (too small) and you can type with your thumbs (too big) so I just end up awkwardly stabbing at it with one finger. i guess it's not the best for creating content?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 19 December 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I want one for tertiary ed next year (best available software/interface for what I'm doing) but am not quite sure if I want to spend that much, and I really dislike the low-res screen.

Will wait until the next iPad is released regardless, 'sif I'm buying something with 256 Mb memory (my PHONE has twice that ffs).

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 20 December 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

no, it's primarily a content consumption device xp

dayo, Monday, 20 December 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I was surprised how easy it was to go from touch-typing on a reg. keyboard to modified 2-finger/4-finger typing on the ipad. But yeah, it's not good if you have to do a lot of keyboarding.

pixel farmer, Monday, 20 December 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

If you want to make an Apple fanboy REALLY angry, assert that it's not a content creation device. They get soooo wound up.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 20 December 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

'But look at THIS artist making finger paintings and look at THIS musician using the on-screen piano etc etc'

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 20 December 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

those apple fanboys!!

max, Monday, 20 December 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

if it bothers you aa then suggest unsubscribe from daring fireball.

caek, Monday, 20 December 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ikr

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 20 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link


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