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Who up in this bitch fancies a game of memory M:TG*? I'm bored.

* (the one where you start with no cards in your card, draw one of your choice per turn, and no card can be played twice? It's kinda fun...)

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 18 April 2004 14:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I used to play a lot around 14-16 and did pretty good, but when I think
of all the money I spent on cards that just sit in boxes up in my closet
I get all teary-eyed. Those should be records sitting idle, not cards!

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 18 April 2004 16:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dud as hell. When I was 12 or 13 or so I went with my friend (who was into Magic cards at the time) to a Magic the Gathering "tournament" being held at the local Barnes & Noble. While my friend was playing Magic with someone, I walked around watching the others in attendance. At one table this guy playing said something like "I'm playing the Wall of Flame card". This other guy at the table said, "I'm gonna play the Wall of Pubic Hair card, hehehehhehe" in this horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voice. That was when I realized that there were people far nerdier than I could ever be.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 17:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
The game itself = Classic: it will be around for years to come, probably our nerdier kids will be into it or some incarnation of it.

The "90-95% super homophobe" players mentioned above = DUD. If I was rich (xpost it's expensive xpost) I'd probably play Magic Online, and not have to see the fat guys with "horribly nasal and stereotypically nerdy voices" that unfortunately define the game.

Richard K (Richard K), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I can't believe I never posted to this thread. I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

i've been having a lot of "fun" playing with the old cards I rescued from my mom's house. i refuse to spend another cent on the game, however.

ian, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

a couple years ago i went to a card & comix shop and built a decent blue-white deck for like $4.00, but all the newer card editions just had all these new retarded esoteric abilities that i had no idea about

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

also, the art was all these, like, cyber dragons and BULLSHIT

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ok these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink


deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

im actually interested to see what the inevitable arena 'classic' format looks like down the line if they really don't plan on adding old sets. modern's gotten a little too critical mass-y, i always liked the extended cardpool size more

ciderpress, Monday, 28 January 2019 20:04 (one month ago) Permalink

As of this last weekend, SCG finally started doing time shifted matches, which fills a bunch of dead time. I suspect they will move away from Modern a bit in the future, but they embraced it pretty hard last year.

The Magic world has done a miserable job of promoting women competitors, and making women feel welcome in general. It's pretty embarrassing and awful.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 28 January 2019 20:06 (one month ago) Permalink

<i>anyone have deep thoughts about deep thoughts about wizards slow strangle of gps?</i>

it certainly feels like someone on the business side of wizards did the math on how much it costs to run organized play and started questioning if the roi was really there for gps and pts. i think there are ways to run gps that make sense but like, pay $100,000 for a huge tournament for a few thousand people to play is just a weird use of money and has never seemed to really drive engagement. i imagine there is also belief that in the markets where its profitable smaller tournament series can and will take the place of gps

(° . ° )― (Lamp), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:55 (one month ago) Permalink

have they cut money for GPs in ways besides coverage? I felt like the move to make GPs into Magicfests - conventions rather than tournaments - was smart. I love going to GPs for the so-many-players experience but rarely watch them at home. (though part of that is maybe self-fulfilling, due to the fact that the GP coverage has never been great.) I much prefer they go big on coverage for a few tournaments like PTs or Magic World Championship where the player caliber is higher

Vinnie, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 13:22 (one month ago) Permalink

I don't think they've cut money but at least some value was tied to the prestige of the event, which is tied to the coverage. kinda seems like the plan is to make them 'big ptqs'.

I agree that spending $100k per GP always seemed like it was burning money, though some of the returns on that are a little abstract. NJ was my first MF and unsurprisingly didn't seem much different from any previous GP. I think to really convert it into 'not a GP' you probably need some bigger marquee side-events. but thinking about it more - I haven't seen this specific point brought up yet - killing GP coverage doesn't just save them money, it helps de-emphasize the GP aspect of the MF.

iatee, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:24 (one month ago) Permalink

they cut the prize pool both by having fewer gps and by creating the tiered prize pool structure (although that one is pretty negligible its like $15K less in prizes this quarter) and losing the equity that pro points gave is a long-term savings for them, although they are still paying those out atm.

moving from a single tournament model to a sort of convention model in which a bunch of events including one or two more prestigious tournaments take place makes a lot of sense & is obviously the direction they are moving. i wrote an article about this a few months ago before a bunch of the op changes had been announced but it also is in tune with how they seem to want to position playing "tabletop" magic, as a sort of social & creative experience rather than a purely competitive one.

(° . ° )― (Lamp), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:16 (one month ago) Permalink

This is all just really weird to witness - like I'm personally fine with it but it's totally surreal that it's all happening so fast, I think of Wizards as this super conservative company and they've just kinda gone wildly all-in very quickly.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:18 (one month ago) Permalink

they're not super conservative with organized play, they changed the pro play qualification structure constantly throughout this decade

ciderpress, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:20 (one month ago) Permalink

wizards def are here to wring every dollar they can from the game. the big change in direction seems less wild to me, and rather calculated and market optimized. i'm pretty curious about the business aspects of it. making MTG a legit e-sport is probably worth $$$.

davey, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:24 (one month ago) Permalink

wish i had more time for Magic these days. i've gone from a pretty steady limited player to not having played a single draft of the new set :/

davey, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah i went from doing like 10-20 drafts every set, or even more for ones that i particularly liked, to 'maybe i'll try it once'

ciderpress, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:26 (one month ago) Permalink

they're not super conservative with organized play, they changed the pro play qualification structure constantly throughout this decade

yeah but PTs and GPs have been the core of competitive magic since the dawn of competitive play.

in any case I think that this: is the real eye opener. like the future of competitive magic isn't just 'not the pro tour', it's also maybe 'not the same rules as paper magic'.

iatee, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:54 (one month ago) Permalink

this announcement is pretty discouraging for a few reasons but i think it does tie in to what i was saying upthread - i dont know how good the roi on the old model of organized play was & it feels like things really are moving in a different direction.

magic has been my primary non-work activity for like three years, its been a sorta weird few months thinking about what i want to do w/ it, how much i still want to play &c &c

(° . ° )― (Lamp), Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:58 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah I didn't have a lot of time to play this year but was planning on going to a bunch of gps this year and and now my plans seem really hazy.

iatee, Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:14 (one month ago) Permalink

i havent been to a gp in a while due to non-magic reasons but would still hit up modern ones in the northeast i guess. i don't really play enough to justify keeping up with standard anymore even though it's historically been my favorite format

ciderpress, Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Dude from my LGS just took down SCG Dallas with mono blue.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 11 February 2019 01:51 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah the blue deck seems strong

ciderpress, Monday, 11 February 2019 04:15 (one month ago) Permalink

so, magic

iatee, Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Feeling kind of burned out lately

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah I've been burnt out since ixalan but still follow from a distance

ciderpress, Friday, 22 February 2019 01:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I've actually been playing a ton more, thanks to Arena. Love how fast drafting and playing goes, and I'm surprised how invested in the ranking system I am (just shy of platinum right now, so still a ways off from the top). Ravnica Allegiance is also one of the better draft sets in recent memory, though the bots consistently underdraft gates and gate payoffs

I don't play constructed at all unless I run out of currency for drafts, and hope not to put any real money into the game. Right now, I kind of like that if I run out of currency, I have to wait for quests - kind of a built-in control on my play time

Vinnie, Friday, 22 February 2019 07:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I am new to it and am so obsessed right now. I play with a friend at lunch every day, and after the kids go to bed, I just build decks, that is my leisure activity. playing mono red today, I don't have a lot of faith in this deck as I don't have a high enough number of the right cards to make it do what I want it to do but the play is so fun to me and I have been working so fuckin hard these past few years, I really can't overstate how much good it's doing me to have this thing that's new to me that I'm getting very incrementally better at & will probably never be better than average at but which allows me to just be a guy playing a fun game & occasionally pulling a rabbit out of the hat & winning 17-0 before getting his ass handed to him by a Sharktocrab again

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 February 2019 12:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah Sharktocrab is my bane

Cool to see you in this thread, JCLC, hope you stick around. I was wondering if you played the game at all after I saw that tie-in that was discussed upthread

Vinnie, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

good shit

ciderpress, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

JCLC if you have any free time this weekend, you should check out the mythic championship going on on right now:

it's the biggest event in competitive magic

iatee, Friday, 22 February 2019 23:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

One of my hometown buddies made the top 8 of the MC, which made me more invested than usual, but I thought that was one of the best top 8s to watch in recent memory. five different decks, few non-games. the finals was especially good, and the winner played superbly

Vinnie, Monday, 25 February 2019 07:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah i ended up watching the replay when i got home last night & i think this was the best played and most exciting top 8 to watch since shota played out of his mind to win pt kaladesh. this top 8 was also just incredibly solid, a real testament i think to what a skillful format this is

(° . ° )― (Lamp), Monday, 25 February 2019 15:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Agreed, some incredible next level plays happening, great stuff

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 25 February 2019 15:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

got my ass handed to me by a friend yesterday over lunch -- after building two decks that were actual winners (one a dinosaur-heavy monster, the other mill/removal which is the style of play that suits me best), I got careless.. watched the Mythic thing all weekend, just really enjoying a new whole thing to be into.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 15:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

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