Lifter Puller, Rock and Roll!

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I wouldn't say "rhythm-hate" but I don't really get why they're referencing classic-rock in tales of skaterpunks. It's not NOW 'arena', but THEN 'arena.' The GVSB post-punk sound definitely gels better with his voice and themes, I love when its all rushing by so fast I miss lines and the a groove kicks in almost outta nowhere.

Plus I am SO not a Catholic.

'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Cattle and the Creeping Things" > schaffel

disco violence (disco violence), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I have never been to Minneapolis nor have I been to Catholicism (or any religion, actually), but I'm pretty obsessive about SS right now. To the point of thinking of getting that LFTR PLLR double that Xgau A minussed last year. I only pay attention to lyrics when they make me, and this one does. I want to work out more about the stories (or is it just one story) that threads in and out. It'll take me a while, especially since I can never hear anything when the bus roars through the tunnel on my way to work. But I like the Bruce thing the band has going as well.

thousands of tiny luminous spheres (plebian), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

lotsa Catholic imagery on the LP records, too, just not as overt. they also referenced indie punk in tales of ravers--your point?

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"Why is this comedy about war?"

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not a hobbit but I still liked Lord of the Rings.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

classic rock = acknowledging their own seperateness from the cast of characters, viz. darnielle on 'certain songs': "there is a certain poignancy in trying to work out who is addressing who" (okay not exactly a quote but eh.)

tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Just a data point in case anyone was getting the impression that the pleasure in this music was necessarily related to local knowledge of one sort or another.

thousands of tiny luminous spheres (plebian), Thursday, 8 December 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I think what I love most about the Hold Steady, that I don't necessarily love about Lifter Puller, is that his storytelling has become, for lack of a better word, more "believable." That is -- the neo-Chandler noir bits of the LFTR PLLR mythology weren't all that believable to me, though they were enjoyable. The Separation Sunday story, though, feels completely "real" and it doesn't feel like Finn's putting on an act or exaggerating for effect. Real life is epic enough.

Then again, I'm a Minneapolitan who moved to New York, so etc. etc...

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

The Osseo reference in Hoodrat Friend is awesome though! I'm officially offering Finn $25 cash if he can work in Coon Rapids or Norwood Young America into the next one!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

someone should make a Craig Finn Map of the Twin Cities

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm a big fan of the sneaky "Stillwater" ref. in Hoodrat Friend, but then again I'm just a sucker for every geographical reference he makes (the railroad bridge! I used to drink beneath it too!)

If I see him around, I'll ask him why he hasn't yet taken advantage of the many possibilities "Eden Prairie" provides.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Penetration Park = Loring Park, right?

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

because Eden Prairie sucks! (haha, I have no idea whether Eden Prairie sucks)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I, too, will put down $25 for a mention of H4stings or Triangle Park.

xpost: pretty sure it sucks.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

haha craig finn map:

(Uptown? always assumed) Rainbow Foods
Nankin (RIP)
Penetration (Loring) Park
the corner of 15th and Franklin
Payne Avenue
Yukon Club

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of my favorites:

Railroad Bridge - the one between 26th and 27th streets? teen ne'er-do-wells park their bikes in the trees and drink on the shore or on the bridge.

Edina -- in "Hornets! Hornets!"
we were livin up at nicollet and 66th. with 3 skaters and some hoodrat chick. drove the wrong way down 169. almost died up by edina high.

The City Center ref in Hoodrat Friend always cracks me up.

And, of course, Lake Street is for Lovers.

There ought to be one of those google map hacks with little flags on all the places.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh! And (the carpet at) the Thunderbird!

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Last summer, I visited Mpls and stayed at the hotel above City Center, and was craving Taco Bell, so I went in and everything was shuttered. All I could think about was that line in "Hoodrat."

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

You were so close to Block E! You could've gone to the Hard Rock Cafe!

(shudder)

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I was listening to the Hold Steady when that Thunderbird lyric came on and my mom was like, "The Thunderbird!"

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

(...that post almost made sense. Almost.)

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I think I have all this stuff (the odds and ends collection is all on Soft Rock, it looks like). But still - nice. Also I guess Soft Rock is outta print or something.

http://pitchfork.com/news/37089-pre-hold-steady-band-lifter-puller-remembered-with-reissue-series-book/

dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

digital reissue = laaaaaame

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

tru. I'd buy Half Dead and Dynamite on vinyl. that one's my favorite.

dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

btw it's kinda lame to me that because tad is in hold steady that the original (and best) lifter puller bassist, tommy roach is sort of written out of the band's history....he was an amazing bassist and quit i think to pursue grad school (i had him as a TA at the u of m once)..but anyway he plays in half dead, which remains their best work, and from what i have been told was very instrumental in writing lifter puller songs when he was in the band and sort of helping to define their sound.

On this date in 2008, Soulja Boy said something (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

don't call her lazy cause she's crazy about the daytime tv
channel 3, look at me, i'm a real whale watcher

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

I think it's Wheel watcher

https://i.imgur.com/IDw9f9s.jpg

how's life, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

lmao that makes way more sense, i'm submitting the correction to every lyrics website

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

every lyric in "touch my stuff" is gold

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

even though i think fiestas is their masterpiece my fav lifter puller song is "sangre de stephanie," it kinda feels like every thematic touchstone finn explored in both lifter puller and the hold steady ("she crossed herself and it turned me on") appears there

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

I feel really lucky have seen them dozens of times in small clubs in Minneapolis in those days.

This just surfaced, sound is dodgy but this is def the era, Lifter Puller playing the Dillinger Four Midwestern Songs of the America's release show on a boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFByA1t6KG4&feature=youtu.be

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

oh shit!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

I want Night Club Dwight dead in his grave
I want the Nice, Nice up in blazes

cajunsunday, Friday, 3 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

I have so much of that album stuck in my head.

cajunsunday, Friday, 3 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

it ain't just a money thing it's a question of community, the liberty the ecstasty the love the drugs the unity and the busts they looked just like the hey kool aid commercial, they're breaking down the walls and they're tipping over tables and it tastes great

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

for a little bit Paddy (St. Paddy) of Dillinger Four is standing in front of the camera.

the whole Lifter Puller/D4/Atmosphere mutual appreciation society was really cool back then

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

legendary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQulI5RcfOs

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

another great find! 00 full set from the weisman art museum at the university of mn campus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJxAyApDYrs&feature=youtu.be

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

Ooh, nice finds. The Jenny Jones one lead me to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoWgl5XeBws

which in turn led me to this Aussie band's cover of same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPEzGabTpK4

which reminded me of how I came across Lifter-Puller via J0hn D's piece on "Mission Viejo":

http://lastplanetojakarta.com/articles/lift.html

etc, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link


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