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haha funny old show they've given him. (does he live there or something?) could well be a trial run for bigger stuff.

v glad that late kick off is returning, i really enjoyed it last season (the london edition at least - other versions i caught didn't really seem as good.) presumably all the other presenters will be the same?

dunno why it hasn't been on from the start really.

Hopefully they'll be working up to bumping Colin Murray from MOTD2.

people who want richardson on motd2 have seriously not thought things through. can u imagine the sheer excruciating awkwardness between him and hansen/lawro? or really anyone who isnt sav or dicko? it's not even like jimbo would take it in good humour, he's always having little tantrums at perceived boorishness.

we'll see how he gets on with murty and rosenior's blank looks first i suppose.

people who want richardson on motd2 have seriously not thought things through. can u imagine the sheer excruciating awkwardness between him and hansen/lawro?

This is part of the appeal.

dont know why lawro or shearer would necessarily need to be there

How would a developing Spurs team built around the pace and width of Aaron Lennon and Gareth Bale in tandem with the midfield subtlety of Luka Modric and the thrust and threat of Rafael van der Vaart accommodate a 35-year-old whose best days are inevitably in the past?

nulty, inevitably in the past

Jenas' crib on motd kickabout right now - loves drake & nando's

kind of a short feature - was over by the time I finished typing that

motd kickabout is the new version of the show i worked for in newsround. was it any good? i hope not cos i lost my job cos of it!

I didn't realise it was a kids' show until afterwards, which explains the ultra-short features I guess. Same mixture of lame banter and fence-sitting as every other show. Seems a bit unnecessary to get Dion Dublin in for thirty seconds of that. Also the gags get told as if there's an audience there to whoop and applaud, but there's nobody there.

So yeah, it's terrible. Miles better than the old version at least, I'll give them that.

they want to have a footie guest every week, as someone who worked on the old show i have to say i find it doubtful they'll get good people. colleagues met dion dublin in the bbc bar one night. qed.

Also explains Jenas's crib. Nice to see his massive rooms, massive gym, big swimming pool, his massive office too ("spend a lot of time in here. It's where I download my music")

I forgot to mention the transfer window section:

Dzeko to Man City
Dion: not sure about that one
Talking Head: waste of money

Ronaldinho to Blackburn
Dion: seems a strange one

Keane to Birmingham
Dion: that's a good move
TH: he'll get you goals, guaranteed

Chances Dion knows who Dzeko is = negligible.
Chances he knows Rnaldinho's been doing okay for Milan = debateable
Chances he's seen Robbie Keane play well in last 2 years = impossible

Hey, Dion ex-Celtic, he might have heard about his half-decent half-season up here, no?

celtic, put some money down for him ffs

From F365

Apparently the BBC have a TV show called 'MOTD Kickabout' as part of CBBC, in which various kids TV presenters shout at the audience in typically patronising manner.

Us neither, but Adam Johnson was on the latest edition, taking part in a 'quick fire' Q&A session in which he was asked about his best friend in football.

After looking pensive for a few seconds, he replied in a somewhat reluctant manner: "Andrew Taylor."

Cut back to the studio and the presenter squarked "HE TOOK HIS TIME TO THINK OF HIS BEST FRIEND IN FOOTBALL, DIDN'T HE?" Before adopting a deeply curious falsetto to say: "SOOOOOOO LONELY!"

Well yes. It could be that. Or it could be that it's been fairly widely reported that his best friend in football was the late Dale Roberts.

guilty lol tbh - let the kids get away with bad researching

ha...god. bit of a clanger.

Late Kick Off In The North is amazing. Watching Guy Mowbray trying to have banter with Dean Windass really is quite something.

Anyone for Headers and Volleys?
Dan Walker recalls the football games he played as a kid

do we have a thread on football punditry in general? The Guardian's Secret Footballer columnist weighs in on how shallow it is:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/29/secret-footballer-andy-gray-pundits

worth starting imo

quite enjoyed motd kickabout

i like the secret footballer and want to know who he is.

but most of all i want to correctly guess who he is

sadly danny mills is no longer a premiership footballer otherwise he'd be odds-on

Secret Footballer has Andy Gray down pat.

What particularly riles me is when you hear a pundit or co-commentator say something like, "I can't understand, Martin, why Drogba is not on the post here. That header would have fallen to him and if I'm Petr Cech I'm saying: 'Go on son, clear that off the line for me!'"

I still want men on the post at corners though so I guess I'm an idiot, along with all the managers who agree (more than half of them I reckon).

Presumably the Secret Footballer plays for a team that doesn't put men on the posts so that should help narrow it down a bit.

Ronan's "he'll be saying, don't sack me, don't gimme my P45" in the immediate aftermath gave me the best laugh I've had this week

flood the fucking chamber

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52782000/jpg/_52782147_focusforum2_640.jpg

that focus forum is a fucking joke. they've set themselves a challenge of having a guest every week and exposed the fact the bbc has ZERO pulling power when it comes to football guests. so it's whoever the fuck happens to be in tvc that day, which sometimes is just motty or lawro, and hey let's not film it somewhere nice, an office will do the trick, really exciting television guys. the lack of imagination would make you cry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13783154.stm

Wembley was a superb host for this year's Champions League final

was it, thanks for that bit of news bbc...

Wembley's hosting of this year's final was a resounding success.

another news fact, thanks.

the 2012 final should be at Wembley too

wembley hosting the 2012 final would be likely to be superb, bbc sport understands.

That's Wembley 2013 sorted, now for Wembley 2012 I say. Is it too late to have the 2010 final there too?

http://i.imgur.com/OwkK4.png

dun dun dunnnnnn

I'm picturing him prancing into training like Brett Anderson

all that microphone swinging and slapping was a cover for Brett crossing himself - good tip there for Carlos to avoid the wrath of the Ibrox hordes

Bit of camp flamboyance always goes down well there, it's true.

GIS for "camp footballers" no 2 result:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff162/supernorm/campfootball.jpg

fucking dressed liked twins

If you'd played the game you'd know those are two completely different shirts.

they've been ok tonight tbh, given straight & clear opinions on each talking point that i've agreed with for the most part

I liked Lee Dixon's Downing analysis. I like Lee Dixon.

yeah

better with keown tho

fuckin ell

ha, wrong thread

http://www.surrealfootball.com/2011/08/24/match-of-the-day-3-a-play-by-play-analysis/