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that brings it back to what i think is your and fandango's point about minimal being assimilated into/becoming the mainstream of dance music..

ok i am feeling this argument now but one big difference (and this sort of ties into tim's popularity of djs vs. producers thing) is that minimal seems to have sort of intellectual/high art connotations for a lot of people (villalobos on cover of the wire, the still-lingering echoes of the glitch era, uhhhh more examples plz) that never existed with prog.

and yeah we whities put the white wash on and it always comes out trancey

each style was focused on the "new" music, and heavily on particular superstar type deejays.

just like everything else, right???

Anders Ilar! I love you RA!

Plus, the pole mix is sounding very nice right now.

I think I might buy a huge pack of CDR's and try and get all of these in physical form, well, maybe just 50-70 or so.

I'm hoping they're going to get someone big for #100, my bet is Luciano or something.

yeah the Ilar's great, very minimal rainy morning, which is perfect for me right now

where can i get a copy of henrik schwarz?

both prog and mnml are both white washed versions of their respective black dance musics. most of the main players in each are white guys from europe and england

proved

moonship i put that henrik schwarz up on leonardo

thx bro

listening to the ilar now, sounds terrific

A cursory skim through Kevin Saunderson's mix is really making it sounds very promising.

yeah...saunderson is playing a lot of whitewashed music though...shame on him.

OMG he's wearing a bluetooth headset in the promo picture

I once saw Anders Ilar and there were about ten people there. He uses Fruity Loops. Music was great.

i like that track at 55:00. what is that?

taht was an xpost. 55:00 in the KS mix

anders ilar mildly boring / uncreative i thought.

I haven't listened to any of his records. I remember that night a really fat girl came up to me and asked me if I had a girlfriend and I lied and said yes and she said "oh it's just that my pal thought you were cute" and her friend was hot. Who the hell gets their friends to approach people after the age of 12 or so?!

Sorry for the blog post.

never lie to fat people

hell, never lie to anyone

kevin saunderson is possibly my all time favourite techno producer. i've always thought he should stick to producing and looking at that tracklisting, i don't think i'm going to change my mind about that anytime soon.

anders ilarthe last month and a half or so mildly boring / uncreative i thought

mostly the boring part; i don't follow releases like, at all so it's not like djs have to cratedig to impress me. make me move or something.

"kevin saunderson is possibly my all time favourite techno producer. i've always thought he should stick to producing and looking at that tracklisting, i don't think i'm going to change my mind about that anytime soon.

-- stirmonster"

saunderson is horrible at deejaying. he plays a ton of absolute garbage. it makes me really irritated, given how good his releases and label has been. i guess getting paid is the bomb.

i like this sequence a lot

16. Kevin Saunderson - World Of Deep (Jesse Rose Remix)
17. Hatiras - Rock Da House
18. Haruki Matsuo - Side Step Test
19. Kevin Saunderson - Pump Da Move (Samuel L Session Remix)
20. ? - Da Umba (?)
21. Korioto & Ivan Gomez - Work My Beats
22. Kevin Saunderson - Bassline (Joris Voorn Remix)

22. Kevin Saunderson - Bassline (Joris Voorn Remix)

this remix is mega - it never leaves my box. i never thought the original could be beaten but i think i actually prefer this version.

yeah...saunderson is playing a lot of whitewashed music though...shame on him.

-- Ronan, Monday, 24 March 2008 21:38 (1 hour ago) Link

if this was a joke it was a good one!

what's funny to me is that the "credible" stuff strikes me as the worst-sounding part of his mix. the vincenzo / italoboyz / nazca nonsense. ok, it sounds a little bit like basic channel because the synths billow and echo. but you know what? it's also really, really boring. does it do anything? no, it just sits there. it's not that there's anything wrong with filtering the same few notes up and down. carl craig is a genius at doing exactly that. but these guys aren't - it's like they're convinced that if they just follow the maurizio & carl craig cookbook (throwing a few elements from each) they'll end up master chefs. NOPE, sorry, it doesn't work like that. not actively bad, just sort of uninspired and completely useless at getting my pulse up.

at least guetta and fedde le grand get your pulse up.

i'm talking about the long middle stretch from around 30:00 to 50:00, if anybody cares

that stuff isn't that credible really...more...as you say, middlebrow.

macallan, that was a joke!

actually i find all of the bile directed at guetta and fedde le grand pretty laughable. what did people want? that he'd play an hour of deepchord and omar s records? isn't that just the flipside of being that boring angry guy who just graduated from high school and spends his time sneering at anything that's not underground metal. hell, that's just the flipside of being alex in nyc!

you're gonna need a bit more than cargo shorts & a fruit of the loom w/ a famous black musician screened on the front to compete with that

I agree...also "Big Fun" and "Good Life" were probably dismissed back then for the exact same reasons people dismiss Fedde and Guetta now.

"I agree...also "Big Fun" and "Good Life" were probably dismissed back then for the exact same reasons people dismiss Fedde and Guetta now.

-- Ronan"

incorrect.

Fedde's "Let Me Think About It" was one of the best tunes from last year, if only all 2007 electro-house tracks were so fun!

I haven't listened to any of his records. I remember that night a really fat girl came up to me and asked me if I had a girlfriend and I lied and said yes and she said "oh it's just that my pal thought you were cute" and her friend was hot. Who the hell gets their friends to approach people after the age of 12 or so?!

hot chicks who dont want to hook up with shallow dudes

For Energy Flash, I was interviewed by Robert Elms on his GLR show, and during a desultory interrogation, with one eye kept on the Test Match playing on a little TV above the studio console, the former doyen of the style bibles opined that as far as he was concerned, house and techno had been the death of the British working class's love affair with black dance music. Like everybody else from a certain mid-Eighties moment in style culture/London clubland, Elms seemed to have imagined that rare groove/"the jazz revival"/go-go should have just have extended itself in perpetuity: a Thousand Year Reich of refinement and righteousness.

Elms's inability to accept house and techno as "proper black music" (let alone all the things that followed like jungle and 2step), then gets weirdly echoed by your Terry Farley types who went a bit further than Elms, falling in love with deep house, but stops there. Read his house review column in Muzik and you sniff the tell-tale neo-mod whiff of "we are the custodians", signaled by phrases like "proper black dance music" and "this is real black house music for those who know". Then there's Kirk DeGiorgio with his historically confused insistence that Detroit techno came entirely out of black synth-exponents like Stevie Wonder, Herbie Hancock, and Bernie Worrell, and owed not one whit to Kraftwerk/New Order/Depeche. DeGiorgio operates some kind of web-site project dedicated to documenting early Seventies black music year by year down to every last record released---so far as he's barely got to 1971!.

it never ends.

incorrect

i'm not sure i can really get into fedde - aside from PYHUFD - but i'll rep for guetta. he's like the perfect compromise between near-perfect OTT US testosto-house (think subliminal or murk) and that really awesome euro stuff that toes the line between prog & electro house (guy gerber, steve angello, etc)

great debate

the worst thing about guetta is how he credits his creepy wife on each album and how she appears in press photos doing extra-creepy things like touching his bare chest with her press-on nails. they're stunningly ugly, too.

xpost incorrect

heh

guetta was on a loreal "because I'm worth it" ad over here.

dude looks like a naked mole rat.

accepting the award for BEST LO-FI DETROIT HOUSE ANTHEM 2007

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/david-guetta-2007-world-music-awards-arrivals-1tTHqx.jpg

http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2007/10/071015225336.jpg

the last month and a half or so mildly boring / uncreative i thought

I loved Derek Plaslaiko's mix. Was I the only one who did?

Vahid you never told me whether you liked AXWELL'S "I FOUND U"??!?

Also has anyone outside of Australia heard THE POTBELLEEZ'S "DON'T HOLD BACK"??!?

I'm half tempted to spend all my time championing stuff like this just to get away from all the dance music pietism that seems to be number one meme of 2008.

It is fairly popular in NZ Tim (The Potbelleez/Aussie Electro house imports). Please stop sending them over.

I thought Pole's RA was great. Tomorrow, on the bus, I will listen to Ilar.

"I loved Derek Plaslaiko's mix. Was I the only one who did?

-- NoTimeBeforeTime"

when derek was in Pittsburgh he played some Rob Hood, Moodymann, G-Man, etc. far better than that podcast.