i mean - rap fans know both, but gucci's been around longer and obv has a much larger body of work. i don't think minivan driving moms know either
xp ignore whiney obv, whether he's being serious or not
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah the the "executive producer: waka" thing made me wonder....crazy
― whitney from mtv's the city (tpp), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
what whiney means is that outside of the new york bubble, so-called 'regional rap' continues to outsell 'more deserving' fabolous mixtapes
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i'm gonna go back on "much more popular" and stick with my second statement - waka is the hot artist now so it's hard to accurately gauge
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha deej
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― whitney from mtv's the city (tpp), Friday, January 14, 2011 2:44 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i dont think thats rlly about putting people on to gucci or something, thats more about 'hey guys we're friends again' type synergy. ppl who pay attention to waka tapes also check gucci tapes. the diff in audience is at the crossover urban pop radio level
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah ok. weird to think waka could potentially be a more successful crossover artist but really nowadays who knows
really excited to hear this mixtape. haven't had proper internet connection all week so i haven't heard 'gucci 2x' or anything. wanna stay up till 10.17 your time
― whitney from mtv's the city (tpp), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't seem like Gucci & Waka ever really fell out despite the former cutting his ties to Mizzay?
And yeah, Gucci probably has a stronger fanbase, but "No Hands" is a bigger hit than Gucci has had.
― flutes & fucking mexican death horns (The Reverend), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i like 'no hands' a lot but wonder if a lot of the crossover appeal is the hook etc and not waka
― whitney from mtv's the city (tpp), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
waka's appeal is more straightforward at some level but also prob more one dimensional / less enduring in the long run
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
xpYeah, Waka's not really a huge presence on it, compared to Roscoe, but it's certainly building on the buzz and momentum had from "O Let's Do It"/"Hard in the Paint" more than Whale or Roscoe Dash's burgeoning careers.
― flutes & fucking mexican death horns (The Reverend), Friday, 14 January 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
incidently gucci's album outsold waka's first week sales wise
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
what the second one??
― whitney from mtv's the city (tpp), Friday, 14 January 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.google.com/trends?q=gucci+mane%2C+waka+flocka+flame
― some dude, Friday, 14 January 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
face tats are only going to widen the gap
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
61k first week of The Appeal vs. 37k first week of Flockaveli...i wouldn't be surprised if the latter's sold more by now
― some dude, Friday, 14 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i wouldnt either although appeal was still floating around the charts a few weeks after it dropped. burrrprint 2 hd did that too
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Flockaveli is still on the charts, whereas Appeal is not.
― flutes & fucking mexican death horns (The Reverend), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
nobody who isn't a septuagenarian is gonna type out "waka flocka flame"
― zvookster, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
flockaveli as of November 7, 2010 the album has sold 86,000 copies in the United States
the appeal has sold an estimated 100,000 copies as of the week ending October 24, 2010
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
both those figs are 2+ months old and from pretty shortly after they were released, don't really tell us any more than the first week figures
― some dude, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
haha removing the "flame" really does change it substantially!
http://www.google.com/trends?q=gucci+mane%2C+waka+flocka&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
― some dude, Friday, 14 January 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yah but call him 'gucci' & ... etc
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
you'd have to be pretty new to the internet if you think typing "gucci" is the quickest way to find information on him, as opposed to shortening the name of a guy who's name is three nonsense words
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link
new years resolution is not to get into stupid arguments with whiney at all so
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
u win i guess
― some dude, Friday, January 14, 2011 4:43 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah i know, im sure waka has gained some ground but at best they're in the same ballpark. its not like flockaveli is crushing him or something
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, im the dude who thinks album sales mean jack shit ... just sayin
lol did you not have a better irl resolution to make??
― ilxor, Saturday, 15 January 2011 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol haha
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Saturday, 15 January 2011 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link
guys maybe help deej w/ his resolution and resolve to stop baiting him?
― gr8080, Saturday, 15 January 2011 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://nsaney.com/pics/idiocracy-batin.4.jpg
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 January 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney will stop throwing sand in ppl's faces the day he stops eating subway
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i haven't eaten at a subway in a hot, toasted minute btw
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 January 2011 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
5 mins
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Saturday, 15 January 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/12974/gucci_mane_gucci_2_time.html
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Saturday, 15 January 2011 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i've bookmarked & been reading thru like 1/2 dozen subway threads on ILX, that shit is addictive
― ilxor, Saturday, 15 January 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link
most of this stuff has leaked already
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you expect us to believe this is some sort of MAGIC xylophone?
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 January 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link
what
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link
aren't you dj-ing somewhere
id say gucci's fanbase is a bit more like large devoted cult though
this we already know
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 15 January 2011 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link
ilxor isnt baiting me, hes far too awful of a poster
― *gets the power* (deej), Saturday, 15 January 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
― ilxor, Friday, January 14, 2011 7:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
is this baiting, really? its just terrible logic, more
― *gets the power* (deej), Saturday, 15 January 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link
aren't you dj-ing somewhere― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
had a serious crowd from 12:30-3:30, prolly the biggest ever. Kind of annoyed at myself that I didn't ask for a cut of the bar in my guarantee, because people were going ham. I played "Gucci Time," "I Just Wanna Party," "Whip It Up" and "Hard In Da Paint." Kind of regretting not sneaking "Let Me Smang It" in there.
Deej and/or other DJs: do you find people react differently to pre-Dre, breakbeat-era hip-hop? I remember playing a wedding and no one would dance to all the 60s/70s shit because there was no drum machines. I was doing a successful all hip-hop night but was scared to play anything that didn't sound "modern" since ppl were diggin it. I think the earliest song I played was Blahzay Blahzay. Really wanted to play "Know The Ledge" after it got packed so I could feel like I was in Juice.
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 January 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
also, like every Lex Luger song exists in this 70-72 bpm clusterfuck on my computer, lol
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 January 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
it would be interesting to kind of figure out what old rap songs still work in clubs and if there's some connection to whether the production style is at all similar to modern stuff
― some dude, Saturday, 15 January 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i had no fucking idea Lex was only 19
― strawberry shartcake (San Te), Saturday, 15 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
was a cool interview with him in XXL where he indirectly suggested the reason his beats 'all sound the same' is cuz the rappers just choose the ones that sound like BMF and MC Hammer.
― strawberry shartcake (San Te), Saturday, 15 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
which also included an eyerolling quote from Waka where he says he is not a lyrical rapper because he is a Southern rapper. (mutually exclusive? nah)