letz talk abt gucci mane

yeah ok. weird to think waka could potentially be a more successful crossover artist but really nowadays who knows

really excited to hear this mixtape. haven't had proper internet connection all week so i haven't heard 'gucci 2x' or anything. wanna stay up till 10.17 your time

Didn't seem like Gucci & Waka ever really fell out despite the former cutting his ties to Mizzay?

And yeah, Gucci probably has a stronger fanbase, but "No Hands" is a bigger hit than Gucci has had.

i like 'no hands' a lot but wonder if a lot of the crossover appeal is the hook etc and not waka

waka's appeal is more straightforward at some level but also prob more one dimensional / less enduring in the long run

xpYeah, Waka's not really a huge presence on it, compared to Roscoe, but it's certainly building on the buzz and momentum had from "O Let's Do It"/"Hard in the Paint" more than Whale or Roscoe Dash's burgeoning careers.

incidently gucci's album outsold waka's first week sales wise

what the second one??

http://www.google.com/trends?q=gucci+mane%2C+waka+flocka+flame

face tats are only going to widen the gap

61k first week of The Appeal vs. 37k first week of Flockaveli...i wouldn't be surprised if the latter's sold more by now

i wouldnt either although appeal was still floating around the charts a few weeks after it dropped. burrrprint 2 hd did that too

Flockaveli is still on the charts, whereas Appeal is not.

nobody who isn't a septuagenarian is gonna type out "waka flocka flame"

flockaveli as of November 7, 2010 the album has sold 86,000 copies in the United States

the appeal has sold an estimated 100,000 copies as of the week ending October 24, 2010

both those figs are 2+ months old and from pretty shortly after they were released, don't really tell us any more than the first week figures

haha removing the "flame" really does change it substantially!

http://www.google.com/trends?q=gucci+mane%2C+waka+flocka&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

yah but call him 'gucci' & ... etc

you'd have to be pretty new to the internet if you think typing "gucci" is the quickest way to find information on him, as opposed to shortening the name of a guy who's name is three nonsense words

new years resolution is not to get into stupid arguments with whiney at all so

u win i guess

both those figs are 2+ months old and from pretty shortly after they were released, don't really tell us any more than the first week figures

― some dude, Friday, January 14, 2011 4:43 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i know, im sure waka has gained some ground but at best they're in the same ballpark. its not like flockaveli is crushing him or something

i mean, im the dude who thinks album sales mean jack shit ... just sayin

new years resolution is not to get into stupid arguments with whiney at all so

lol did you not have a better irl resolution to make??

lol haha

guys maybe help deej w/ his resolution and resolve to stop baiting him?

http://nsaney.com/pics/idiocracy-batin.4.jpg

whiney will stop throwing sand in ppl's faces the day he stops eating subway

i haven't eaten at a subway in a hot, toasted minute btw

5 mins

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/12974/gucci_mane_gucci_2_time.html

i've bookmarked & been reading thru like 1/2 dozen subway threads on ILX, that shit is addictive

most of this stuff has leaked already

Do you expect us to believe this is some sort of MAGIC xylophone?

what

aren't you dj-ing somewhere

id say gucci's fanbase is a bit more like large devoted cult though

this we already know

ilxor isnt baiting me, hes far too awful of a poster

lol did you not have a better irl resolution to make??

― ilxor, Friday, January 14, 2011 7:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is this baiting, really? its just terrible logic, more

aren't you dj-ing somewhere

― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

had a serious crowd from 12:30-3:30, prolly the biggest ever. Kind of annoyed at myself that I didn't ask for a cut of the bar in my guarantee, because people were going ham. I played "Gucci Time," "I Just Wanna Party," "Whip It Up" and "Hard In Da Paint." Kind of regretting not sneaking "Let Me Smang It" in there.

Deej and/or other DJs: do you find people react differently to pre-Dre, breakbeat-era hip-hop? I remember playing a wedding and no one would dance to all the 60s/70s shit because there was no drum machines. I was doing a successful all hip-hop night but was scared to play anything that didn't sound "modern" since ppl were diggin it. I think the earliest song I played was Blahzay Blahzay. Really wanted to play "Know The Ledge" after it got packed so I could feel like I was in Juice.

also, like every Lex Luger song exists in this 70-72 bpm clusterfuck on my computer, lol

it would be interesting to kind of figure out what old rap songs still work in clubs and if there's some connection to whether the production style is at all similar to modern stuff

i had no fucking idea Lex was only 19

was a cool interview with him in XXL where he indirectly suggested the reason his beats 'all sound the same' is cuz the rappers just choose the ones that sound like BMF and MC Hammer.

which also included an eyerolling quote from Waka where he says he is not a lyrical rapper because he is a Southern rapper. (mutually exclusive? nah)

xpost i mean, i know like "It Takes Two" and "Children's Story" and "The Choice Is Yours (Revisited)" still work and shit, but if i'm gonna go full-on wedding dj, i might as well just put "Billie Jean" on an ipod and shoot myself in the mouth.

All night dude with booze-breath kept coming up to me like "You know would get this crowd wet? Is if you played "north carolina, take your shirt of and spin it like a helicopter"

I would dance to Children's Story! not Petey Pablo tho

was a cool interview with him in XXL where he indirectly suggested the reason his beats 'all sound the same' is cuz the rappers just choose the ones that sound like BMF and MC Hammer.

― strawberry shartcake (San Te), Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:33 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

pretty much every producer ever has that gripe/defense, but they don't STOP making beats that sound like their signature hit and offering them to artists along with their attempts at more creative or varied sounds

true, though I think that's cuz he wants to close the sale. he claims he sent over 40 to Rick Ross.

that's what i mean. guys like Bangladesh kinda try to have their cake and eat it too by complaining that every artist wants an "A Milli" beat and pointing out that they're capable of something different, but still go ahead and provide what people want from them to keep their career going.