Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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needs last.fm support asap

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

for Windows maybe!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

i am so in love with this thing <3

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (eleven years ago) link

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

wtf 2 adverts in a row (the 2nd was for that White Lies album)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

See what I mean about them? The Killers meet Editors big wowz!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

can i get a spotify invite

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

and the late great says sandcastles on salinas is a future loop foundation track + he recognizes some others too

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:57 (one month ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7EF8wVxBVhG?si=QjyP3LJkSjigsmyKSR-Evw

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

and

2) Only very subtle binaural flourishes

but it's pretty easy to just whack this on while working. However I do sort of wonder if this is the audio equivalent of Huel.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:05 (one month ago) link

Spotify fueling a barely music renaissance

(and I'm here for it)

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:11 (one month ago) link

I came across a Delta Wave Deep Sleep one when I was searching for ambient playlists a week or two ago

Seemed an odd mix of some ambient sounding tracks and others that were just bass hums xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:44 (one month ago) link

there are so many incredible ambient records from the 90s that don't exist on spotify.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:58 (one month ago) link

Yes. I wonder how hard it would be for a label to get some older releases on these popular focus/work/study playlists.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:02 (one month ago) link

It doesn't even seem to be a genre on there - just 'ambient sounds' so gets lumped in with all the 'pink noise' and 'whale sounds' shit.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:07 (one month ago) link

if glenn doesn't have a "pink noise and whale sounds" category already...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 23:35 (one month ago) link

Can anyone (glenn?) explain how this happens

https://open.spotify.com/track/5aUf13PE8XmentDXP9zqTC?si=Xyu7FEV1T6O2wifx23iGug

It's supposed to be Slow Motion by SFF but about 47 seconds in it starts playing Babin by Josky Kiambukuta & Youlou Mabiala O_o

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 12:55 (four weeks ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7EF8wVxBVhG?si=QjyP3LJkSjigsmyKSR-Evw

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

Aren't "binaural beats" "beats" in the sense of a rhythmic interference pattern between frequencies? Like when you're tuning a stringed instrument against another string and you get it very close and you can hear a tremolo-like "beating" effect which speeds up or slows down as you turn the tuning peg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_%28acoustics%29

But yeah, it's a confusing name for them as a playlist on a music site.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 13:27 (four weeks ago) link

Schicke Führs Fröhling turning into Youlou Mabiala is bizarre. The two albums come from the same licensor, so I guess my only theory involves a distracted label intern trying to do too many uploads at once. I'll ask our people to ask their people to give it another try!

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:17 (four weeks ago) link

As for "binaural", you can find LOTS more here: http://everynoise.com/engenremap-binaural.html

and you can see the whole genre-space reordered relative to binaural here: http://everynoise.com/everynoise1d.cgi?root=binaural&scope=all

Not enough individual whale-song artists to make a "whale" genre yet.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:53 (four weeks ago) link

Nice one glenn xp

The correct version of Slow Motion appears on their 2018 Collected Works LP so I added that to the playlist I was making instead

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:56 (four weeks ago) link

Not enough individual whale-song artists to make a "whale" genre yet.

Moby, Orca, Ambergris, Dolphin....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2up7su7CeMU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:56 (four weeks ago) link

Am I crazy or is there no shuffle play option anymore on the desktop UI?

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:36 (four weeks ago) link

lol, never mind, I'm a dummy. I had a podcast still paused as my currently playing track and the shuffle option only appears when you're playing music.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:37 (four weeks ago) link

Latest Test Pressing lockdown playlist, from Stevie Kotey, is an absolute peach.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1iDtw4YCHWv9Izp5pBrqEo?si=ySgxH6U7RB2iWjZ7djH2BQ

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:43 (three weeks ago) link

First time I’ve ever come across something where the titles are shifted by one from the song that is playing: https://open.spotify.com/album/4WV3kUWmeCpq7I4bM6BM4J?si=cspEkw1LTq-1nx5rmcKBig

Soft Mutation Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:39 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, looks like it's probably wrong at the source. I'll get a message passed along to the licensor to see if they will fix it. Thanks!

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:56 (three weeks ago) link

If you have autoplay on is there any way to stop it playing certain tracks/artists? When we play wheels on the bus it follows it up with kids bible songs :/

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 08:15 (three weeks ago) link

We get cutesy ukelele versions of popular classics :(

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 10:59 (three weeks ago) link

No, there's no current way to influence autoplay, and you're not the first person to discover that the current algorithm often matches non-religious kids songs with religious kids songs. I've looked at the listening patterns for these, and they basically make sense: those songs share a LOT of listeners, and it's not simple to tell from the numbers that this is because religious-kids-music audiences are happy to hear "Wheels on the Bus" but non-religious-kids-music-audiences are not as happy to hear bible songs.

Hopefully we'll eventually get artist/song banning working ubiquitously across all parts of the app, which will then give you the ability to get rid of individual things you don't want, but if we don't solve the underlying problem, banning the bible tracks you're hearing is likely to just get you different bible tracks. And solving the underlying problem means modeling the asymmetry of religious-music listening, which is a serious problem in both cultural and technical terms. It's doable, we've done similar efforts for Christmas music and kids music in general. But that's how I know it's hard.

My practical recommendation is to use the songs you LIKE from Autoplay to build a playlist, and then use the Recommended Songs at the bottom of that playlist to fill it out with more things you like or at least tolerate, and then turn Autoplay off and go with your own longer list.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:50 (three weeks ago) link

Is the autoplay the 'Radio based on' type thing that starts when you get to the end of a playlist?

If so have nothing but praise for it as have made some fantastic discoveries listening to it

groovypanda, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:59 (three weeks ago) link

It's also a really really useful on smart speakers: just being able to ask for a single track and let it run from there is a lot less fiddly than specifying names of playlists.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:06 (three weeks ago) link

thanks for the info and tips glenn, very informative. i guess the large religious-kids-music user base in the states is also a factor.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:56 (three weeks ago) link

might be easier to be a devout follower for awhile, stopping immediately when the algorithm is fixed

voltmeter said i had potential (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:14 (three weeks ago) link

i thought about exclusively listening to kids religious music for a few weeks then hitting "i don't like this artist" when it starts showing up in discover weekly.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:36 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh, I apologize on behalf of the entire software industry for uncontrollable algorithms you're forced to try to game indirectly...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:48 (three weeks ago) link

I was impressed when a ~700 song playlist shuffled from Smiths' "Rubber Ring" into Kenny Chesney's "I Go Back"

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:21 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh, I apologize on behalf of the entire software industry for uncontrollable algorithms you're forced to try to game indirectly...

we suffer, it's true.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:03 (three weeks ago) link

hey, maybe wrong place to ask, but is there a way to put my music on spotify and just decline any royalties or possibilities of monetary compensation?

(not that i have any delusions of making money, i just 100% don't care about getting any money from the music i make. just want to make it available on another platform besides bandcamp.)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 19 June 2020 01:19 (two weeks ago) link

also it's 1000% bee ess that aaliyah's second and third albums aren't available. that's classic material. never should have traded those. i had the self-titled on double vinyl, too. regrets.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 19 June 2020 01:34 (two weeks ago) link

OneRPM has a free plan, that's what I use for my own music.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:13 (two weeks ago) link

Discographies of the surf rock band and afro-jazz group both named the Pyramids are mixed together

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:14 (one week ago) link

disappearance of “appears on” listings is a bummer

brimstead, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:05 (one week ago) link

seriously though. Glenn? Help!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:28 (one week ago) link

I still see "appears on" listings...is this on a newer version of the desktop app that I don't have yet?

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:33 (one week ago) link

yeah, it's not on my desktop.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:39 (one week ago) link

The Appears On thing is a temporary casualty of a complicated situation I can't get into, but it will come back. Nobody wants it gone.

I reported the Pyramids page, thanks. It should get cleaned up in a day or two.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:30 (one week ago) link

thanks for that update. i really would hate to see the "appears on" feature go away permanently, it seriously hobbles usability.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:40 (one week ago) link

The badge that appears on the play button if you have shuffle on: heroic ui move, applause.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:30 (six hours ago) link

Does it always appear?

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:32 (six hours ago) link

I see two different buttons a regular play button near the bottom and a shuffle play button that appears closer to the top

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:37 (six hours ago) link

Hmm maybe it isn't what I thought it was. It's at the top below the album or playlist image - is it just shuffle play then? It does show whether I have shuffle on or off. This is in the app btw.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:52 (six hours ago) link

Was this a recent update? I don’t see it there.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:16 (five hours ago) link

version 8.5.65.852 ¯\(°_o)/¯

further investigation confirms it is just shuffle play :(

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:24 (five hours ago) link


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