Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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Camping fair enough, but people who rate down e-ink readers because you need a lamp to read them might also want to avoid books.

The Hankerciser 200 (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I do avoid books!

Jeff, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Since I'm in a complaining mood, I hate the iBooks app because it try's to recreate that real book look with the binding/shadow etc. Too distracting! I just want white screen, black text.

Jeff, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't mind that, but the naff pine bookcase is too much.

Alba, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

is there any way of accessing my instapaper links from the kindle browswer? like a way i could go to the instapaper site and with one click get it emailed over or download from that page. i guess i could view them using the browser but it takes sooo long to go anywhere on that, can't wait for them to give it an overhaul and hopefully speed it up (as well as sticking an msn messenger type tool on there).

NI, Friday, 21 January 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

also weird frustrating problem when i take text from an excel sheet (i use various excel pages to store notes and ideas) and paste it into a doc/rtf/txt/html file and mail it to my kindle. it lops off half a line, as in the text will flow off the screen to the right, if i use landscape screen view it'll show more text but not all of it. v odd and frustrating, i had to convert to pdf but that's so much slower than mobi or text files. pretty sure it's something to do with excel cells but not sure what exactly.

NI, Friday, 21 January 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I will submit a bug for that issue.

schwantz, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ah ta! do you work on the kindle or just a fellow user? i'll submit it myself when i get chance too

NI, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I work on it.

schwantz, Friday, 21 January 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.teleread.com/paul-biba/digital-book-world-will-territorial-sales-become-obsolete-an-update-on-rights-issues/

Look at this crap:

Jean Arache, Belfond & Presses de la Cite (Paris): Don’t know how can block consumer from looking at prices from all around the world. Consumer is always the winner in the end, must show to the consumer that what you are selling is a different product. Have to protect author’s value from piracy and this is a big issue. The best way to do this is through a local publisher as a foreign vendor can never know all the rules. Territorial rights give you a better position to do this.

Like fuck they do. What a load of horse shit.

hipsterPad (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Geographical restriction is THE REASON so many people turn to piracy. Belfond & Presses de la Shite morelike.

hipsterPad (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Andrew Franklin, Profile Books (London): In open market forced to compete on price and this isn’t fair. In closed market can compete on other things. Open market is a legacy of the past and markets must be protected to protect the publisher and the author. Territorial rights are necessary to protect the local publishers who are the repository and promoter of local culture, which might disappear if the local publisher disappears. Look at the crisis in Canada and Australia.

Um yeah, crisis here is that we can't buy the books we want because nobody will sell them to us.

'In closed market can compete on other things' = in closed market can artificially inflate prices and prevent 90% of the world buying your product.

Fuck these wankers piss me off.

hipsterPad (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Just upgraded my Kobo to find it bricked. Looked on the internet, discovered (a) it happens to like every second person and (b) Kobo has a long and solid history of releasing firmware upgrades that break the device.

bum grapes of wrath (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I bought a used DX last year but ended up selling it off after I got my iPad; it's just too bulky and the lack of wifi or any other way to wirelessly add documents without incurring a fee kept me from using it for web content delivery services. I still wanted something to read at restaurants/on the bus/etc., though, so I picked myself up a wifi Kindle 3 (JB'd my iPhone so thanks to MyWi I never need to worry about not having a readily-available internet connection) and a lighted case and I am in LOVE. it's light, the improved contrast ratio is way more impressive than I was expecting, and now that I set up Instapaper and Kindlefeeder it is basically the dopest shit ever (even though Kindlefeeder for some reason won't accept the feed for Mitch Krpata's blog). most importantly it has page back/forth buttons on both sides of the device now, a feature I still can't understand why they took out in the first place.

tl;dr K3 owns

yachts on the reg, sex on the reg (jamescobo), Friday, 4 February 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

also battery life with wifi is retarded long - allegedly like 3 weeks before running out. I'm still on my first charge though. apparently it can charge with any micro USB cord, though, which means I can recharge it with the same cable I keep at my desk for my ecig.

yachts on the reg, sex on the reg (jamescobo), Friday, 4 February 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

My mother "won" a 3rd ed. Kindle from some business supplier raffle (ie, bribery), and as she's not too keen on the printed word I suspect it will remain in my possession for some time.

The screen contrast on the 3rd edn is much, much better than that on my 2 year old 2nd gen (the claimed 50% improvement may be an understatement), but I find the dimensions (less easy to hold without inadvertently paging) and control setup (no dedicated # keys) somewhat inferior. All in all, I wouldn't have paid for the upgrade, as I prefer recycled dead-tree books when not traveling, but thought I'd offer the hands-on comparison for those still on the fence.

E-Ink Pearl is the display manufacturer's name, and seems to incorporate some phosphorescent pigment that absolutely glows under my bedside full-spectrum fluorescent reading lamp. I'd recommend waiting for the upgrade for those looking at non-Amazon, non-Sony devices.

The End is Nigher (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ display manufacturer's name for this iteration of the screen technology,

The End is Nigher (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

kindle internet is like being online in 1983, a combination of etcha-sketch and atari 2600.

not a grumble, mind. to be able to check my facebook/email in a wifi cafe is a brilliant added bonus

recently went through all the freebie articles on rocksbackpages, instapapered them, about 100 in total only to find they aren't listed with the article title or interviewee. just gives the generic 'rocksbackpages articles' title for each and everyone one. frustrating so mailed them about it and fingers crossed they'll be fixing it soon.

NI, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

related qu: is there a way of logging into instapaper on the kindle internet and downloading a mobi file of the top 20 articles there and then? also a way of using 'read later' on it - i imagine putting the java 'read later' stuff in a bookmark would work for this, anyone tried it?

NI, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

If you have a kindle 3, you can send stuff wirelessly to your kindle and not have to pay a surcharge (use your "free.kindle.com" email address). Works great for Instapaper, I hear.
― schwantz, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:35 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I take it the only reason you'd ever not do this would be because you have a kindle 1 or 2?

what a wieldy sentence

in odd we trust (cozen), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

only thing putting me off getting one of these right now is the fact that the book prices are more expensive than their paperback editions.

F-Unit (Ste), Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

send to kindle <3

in odd we trust (cozen), Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Really about to buy one of these but there's noise about a price drop.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

guy in work just brought his in. i'm impressed by the screen res, was expected more pixelated for some reason.

smaller screen than i thought too, but don't think it's an issue

he's managed to get a load of books, and most of them unpaid for, which i'm beginning to see is perhaps not a great thing. so if there's already rife piracy in this, will it have a future?

might still get one though

F-Unit (Ste), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Small screen is offset by portability, and the fact that most paperbacks are about that big anyway. E-ink pixellation in general is reduced because there's no backlight.

It's definitely got a future because you can buy books on the device, which is loads easier than (a) trying to find the book you want on the darknet, (b) actually locating a copy that's not full of scanning errors and (c) editing the bloody thing until the chapter marks work. If the price of the book is right there's no need to bother with alternatives.

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

btw I've been reading my Kobo a lot recently. It's so easy to forget you're reading an electronic device, especially if your book is engrossing. Obviously I'll read paper books again but it's the easiest thing in the world to chuck a light slab of plastic in your bag that's thinner than most books.

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the type of thing you hate

conrad, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

?

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not proper is it

conrad, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Always presumed that the publishing industry was toast, but this kind of article kind of confirms it: http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/top-10-pirated-ebooks-at-the-pirate-bay_b24142

Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't believe it's toast at all. If ebooks are competitively priced and easy to buy, people will buy them. Apple's gone a long way to proving that with its music and app stores.

Also, most people don't know how to use BT, much less set it up to download a working copy of the book they want. No industry is dying due to BT despite their foaming-mouth claims.

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

In the UK at least so many ebooks are more expensive than the paperback versions. And many ebooks available in the US aren't available in the UK - presumably because of Euro-VAT on ebooks and whatnot. Considering the publishing industry has had a decade-long heads-up on this from music and video I think they've shown incredible lack of forethought. Think when ebook torrenting begins in earnest its all over...

Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

2. Advanced Sex: Explicit Positions for Explosive Lovemaking

guilty

el tuomboto (cozen), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

In the UK at least so many ebooks are more expensive than the paperback versions. And many ebooks available in the US aren't available in the UK - presumably because of Euro-VAT on ebooks and whatnot. Considering the publishing industry has had a decade-long heads-up on this from music and video I think they've shown incredible lack of forethought. Think when ebook torrenting begins in earnest its all over...

― Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:20 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yep, I agree 100%. The same crap happens here – some ridiculous recent decision to maintain ancient parallel import laws means all our books are obscenely overpriced. Last week I imported a book from the UK at almost half the local shelf price. Many of our ebooks are also overpriced and the range is crap (some publishers simply won't allow their products to be sold in this territory), so the only way to get those ebooks is via... certain means.

My post upthread refers to a desirable point in the near future. Right now it's difficult to justify spending $10 on an ebook when (a) other countries get the same book for less, (b) the paperback is less again and (c) we're actively blocked from purchasing some books, but I trust competition (including piracy) to change all that.

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

the send-to-kindle thing is really the best thing ever, especially if you're a writer. a geographically-distant friend and i have been exchanging fiction by just sending it to each others' kindles--the kindle owner doesn't even have to do anything; he just wakes up one morning and there's the other guy's short story.

also i read my EMP talk from my kindle. basically i haven't printed anything out since i got it.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone had issues with converting PDFs using the @free.kindle.com address? I assume it's automated at amazon's end?

el tuomboto (cozen), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

it's automated, yeah, although i found the formatting didn't work very well (for the one thing i tried). DOCs and plaintext seem to be ideal.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

broke my 2nd kindle (got up on the bed and put my hand down on the kindle and crrrrack, top half of screen is now frozen. not to worry, amazon sent one out instantly but it's currently lost in the depths of the uk post service as i wasn't in to sign for it today).

first time was a huge pain as i had to recreate all my collections again. had the books backed up on my pc so no major worry but putting 300 books back into collections was agony.

anyway i hunted about and realised that if set your pc to show system files then just copy the previously hidden 'system' folder in the root of the kindle (should be about 47mb) then it'll keep all the collection structure intact. or at least some json file in there does.

so so glad i found this as it'll save me like 2 hours of clicky slog. hope it helps some of you ilx bros out there

NI, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i tried reading the alistair campbell diaries, but it was a pdf with a weird layout - the text was kinda small and centred with a huge white margin but on the very edge of the margin theres a |_ type shape, which means the kindle can't zoom in to show just the main text, making it unreadable as the text is just too small. so i converted it to mobi using calibre but the structure is all screwed, with page numbers interupting it all the time. does anyone know of a good guide on how to fix these little annoyances?

another calibre gripe, when i try to send a downloaded newspaper mobi file to my kindle it just won't work, blames the email address but i've tried a bunch of different ones and all the same. anyone have a similar problem? it's not a major deal as i can just mail it or drag it on there manually but it'd be nice to fix it

NI, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Really considering going with the Color Nook. The ability to read PDFs and Word docs (but, sadly, not edit) would really come in handy when I need to look over drawings or specs on the road and I like the idea of Android apps.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm reading mostly PDFs on my K3. Most of the time zooming to 150% and making the text one step darker works perfectly. I love this thing. Have gotten thru a few ebooks/texts of varying lengths since December - something that rarely happens with my (beloved) paper books.

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

did amazon discontinue their £30 versh of the cover?

el tuomboto (cozen), Thursday, 10 March 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

the light-less cover actually screws up the device (it keeps restarting at random) so they discontinued it. i just sent mine back for this reason

kl0ppa kl0ppa down (tpp), Thursday, 10 March 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"i tried reading the alistair campbell diaries, but it was a pdf with a weird layout - the text was kinda small and centred with a huge white margin but on the very edge of the margin theres a |_ type shape, which means the kindle can't zoom in to show just the main text, making it unreadable as the text is just too small."

you could shop off the white space using briss: http://sourceforge.net/projects/briss/

forest zombie (Vasco da Gama), Thursday, 10 March 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

ahhhhhh, did not know that. assume they'll reissue it at some point once they have a fix xp

I'll be whiney (cozen), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

just learned about this, p.cool

Okay, the Kindle's coolest feature isn't even a "Kindle feature" at all. Project Gutenberg, the huge public domain e-book repository, has created a Magic Catalog of its tens of thousands of Kindle-formatted offerings.

The Magic Catalog is a text file of all these e-books, complete with links to the Kindle version of the file. Download the Magic Catalog to your Kindle, open it like a regular book, and use the search feature to find favorite authors or titles. Then click on the URL, and the Kindle's Web browser pops open, downloads the book, and puts it atop your library on the home screen.

Forget the more tedious process of transferring material to the Kindle from your computer; this is the way to go, and the small file size of most books means that downloading anything, even over the 3G data network, is almost instantaneous.

This doesn't work well for foreign literature, since the best modern translations are still under copyright; use Project Gutenberg and you might well end up with some 18th century Alexander Pope rhyming couplet version of a classic work. But for English-language originals, this is terrific. Because it makes the material so easy to access and read, I've already plowed through huge amounts of material, from Byron's Don Juan to the Communist Manifesto to a P.G. Wodehouse novel.

If it always seemed like too much work to actually track down a copy of Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, Project Gutenberg makes it simple to find, and Kindle makes it simple to read.

cozen, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

oh awesome.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Fantastic! My Kindle comes through in a few days, this is most likely the very first thing I'll do on it.

Emperor Tomato Catsuuuuuuuup (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

the light-less cover actually screws up the device (it keeps restarting at random) so they discontinued it. i just sent mine back for this reason

― kl0ppa kl0ppa down (tpp), Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:21 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

whoah for real? i haven't had any problems with this (though i haven't had time for leisure reading lately

i ~have~ noticed not-great battery life---is that because the wireless is on? i've got the 3g/wireless vers

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i ~have~ noticed not-great battery life---is that because the wireless is on?

i noticed this too, and yeah turning the wireless off helps, but more importantly (though totally unhelpfully), after i'd had the thing a month or so it suddenly started lasting way way longer. like it went from two days to a week. so i dunno if you have to "break it in" (i drained it to nothing and recharged to full a few times in that first month), or if my kindle's crazy, or if i am, but that happened.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link


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