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Craig Finn/RJD2!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

These all sound good. It's weird how Finn is some kinda indie rock MC, in that I could totally see his schtick working with the Lftr Pllr sound or the Broker Dealer or a hip hop production and still being cool. Not a lot of rock singers are like that. He has a very rap type delivery in some ways.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, "T.R.O.N.C.D." is for real?! That is amazing. Is there a tracklist for the disc yet? Jesus, I better join their e-mail list.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Not a lot of rock singers are like that

I don't know any!

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, "T.R.O.N.C.D." is for real?!

No, it's not.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Not a lot of rock singers are like that

I don't know any!

The only ones I can think of offhand are Shaun Ryder or Mark E. Smith.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

The Hold Steady Almost Killed Me (Frenchkiss, 2004--exact date unknown as yet)

1. Positive Jam
2. The Swish
3. Barfruit Blues
4. Most People Are DJs
5. Certain Songs
6. Knuckles
7. Hostile, Mass.
8. Sketchy Metal
9. Sweet Payne
10. Killer Parties

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 13 November 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

OMG IT'S ON SOULSEEK I'M LISTENING TO IT NOW OMG

OMG I've got the first seven songs!! the first two are really exciting!! there are two tracks on this guys blog, one of them isn't The Swish http://ihatemyself44.blogspot.com/ OMG!!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 23 November 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

I like how the bar-bandy thing is totally a self-conscious thing

"She said it's good to see you back in a bar band, baby. i said it's great to see you're still in the bars"

Still pending the last three songs.. the wait is killing me

Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 24 November 2003 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

oh, you're going to like "Killer Parties" a lot, I expect.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

Saxophones rule! More rock records need saxophone. Also videos with backlit horn solos a la US3 or that Run On video.

adam (adam), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

It really slows down with the last three tracks.. They were kind of a disappointment after the wait, except Killer Parties, which you were right about, Matos

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

ten years pass...

A Hold Steady bottle opener plus a new album...

The Hold Steady's new album Teeth Dreams is now available for pre-order via theholdsteady.net. Fans who take advantage of the pre-order sales will be rewarded with the option of purchasing a variety of limited edition items, including The Limited Edition Custom Wood Box Bundle containing the CD, a gold foil limited edition vinyl, The Hold Steady bottle opener, an exclusive photo taken by the band, a t-shirt and a hooded sweatshirt. Only 300 of these have been manufactured. Another package offers the gold foil vinyl with a CD, sweathshirt and t-shirt, while another has combination of the vinyl or the CD with a choice of three shirts or the sweatshirt. Copies of the vinyl and CD can be also be ordered individually. There will be 1,000 gold foil vinyl albums available only via the pre-order sale. It will not be available in stores.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

Cool, I like opening bottles and listening to The Hold Steady!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

i wonder if they are able to recover from the slump that was their last record

nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

or the Finn solo for that matter

nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I liked the last record, and the Craig Finn solo too for that matter. The one I hated was Stay Positive.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link

those keyboards in the trailer make this sound like some 70s classic-rock throwback. i kinda like it.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link

I thought the Finn solo was really good, to be honest. Liked the last THS album, too - opened up several directions for them to go in. Question is which one they take …

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 10:23 (ten years ago) link

How about a LifterPuller direction

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

it kinda sounds like color and the shape era foo fighters musically but craig's doing a more cryptic street story lifter puller style in the verses which i like

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

I listen to Finn's solo album more than any given HS album lately, but storytelling songwriting + pedal steel is pretty much directly up my alley.

Hated the last album, not really feeling that new song. Same problem I had with the last album (and when I saw the band live a couple of years ago) - no groove, much more emphasis on multiple guitars and layers. I like Finn's songs so I'd rather they have more room for the lyrics.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 10 February 2014 05:34 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New album sounds like Graham Parker and the E Street Band.

MV, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 04:45 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this new album is streaming on itunes radio, but i don't know how to link to it. first single, which apparently has been out for awhile?

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link

how does it sound? song i heard sounded weird and muddy in terms of mix

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link

They kinda duplicate themselves at rhis point

nostormo, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

I haven't heard anything yet, but Stereogum was enthusing all over the place about it.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

10 years pass...

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:35 (ten years ago) link

They kinda duplicate themselves at rhis point

― nostormo, Wednesday, March 19, 2014

i dunno. for one thing, craig finn doesn't speak-sing anymore; he just sings. it's a jarring change, over the last two albums. and the band just feels a lot older. sometimes that's good (weathered and interesting), and sometimes that's bad (songs can be a drag). this is going to be a divisive album. can't decide if i like it or hate it, to be honest.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 21 March 2014 08:09 (ten years ago) link

craig finn doesn't speak-sing anymore; he just sings

this is a huge part of what made me lose interest tbh

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 21 March 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link

me too, but honestly i'm someone who likes hold steady because i was a huge lifter puller fan and tend to like them more the more they were like LP

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

I'm no Hold Steady fan but new single sounds weird, UMS is right the mix is really murky, it makes the song sound a lot more sluggish than it probably really is

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link

Hey, wait… it's "The" Hold Steady, though, right? Just plain "Hold Steady" doesn't sound fuckin stupid enough.

correct.

I'm no The Hold Steady fan but new single sounds weird, UMS is right the mix is really murky, it makes the song sound a lot more sluggish than it probably really is

― chr1sb3singer, Friday, March 21, 2014

fixed.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 21 March 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link

Good job guys

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 March 2014 01:43 (ten years ago) link

the ballad i heard from this album is pretty great.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 22 March 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link

but honestly i'm someone who likes hold steady because i was a huge lifter puller fan and tend to like them more the more they were like LP

yup

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 22 March 2014 02:26 (ten years ago) link

This is one of the real surprises of the year so far. Really really good record. I like the new production too.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

man the production on this sucks sooo bad! man what a fuckin bummer

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link

It does but I do like the songs.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

is it worth even listening to or should i just bump stay positive and boys and girls instead?

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

i never got into separation sunday so i guess i could do that too

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link

not liking separation sunday as much as stay positive kinda breaks my brain so yeah you should check that one again

but this one is a step back in the right direction, i think there's some good songs but yeah just odd production, so muddy and it kind of buries Finn's vox which is sort the whole point of the band

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link

well, what i meant to say is that, like, i'm not sure i've even heard it? i might've, but i never really spent much time with it. will do so though.

markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the first two albums really tower above everything since.

keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

i love the first one cuz it's basically half a new lifter puller record and half a hold steady record, but i guess separation sunday is probably the best because they more fully became themselves on that one and it's by far (IMHO) the greatest and most realized version of finn's whole interconnected fictional minneapolis drug/music scene mythology

Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

man the production on this sucks sooo bad! man what a fuckin bummer

― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:24

^^^
The most baffling, all-time, world-class suck-ass production I have heard in a long, long time. I don't like the songs. I don't like the singing. And Separation Sunday is sometimes my favorite album of the past ten years.

Inty Tyga Et La Tyga Loma (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link

I don't feel like the production is that awful. It's not great, for sure and I wish a few things were done differently, but I also don't hear the absolute disaster you people are hearing.

I'd say there are about 4-5 songs on here worth saving. Still a disappointment but, yeah, a step back in the right direction. "Oaks" kind of slays me.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:51 (ten years ago) link

i heard they finally got some discipline

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

This seems to be the nearest we have to a general Hold Steady thread and I didn't want to start a new thread just for the new album. Anyway it's great, a definite step up from the last two, looser and with more of that bar-band feel. Finn is back on top form as a lyricist as well.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 30 August 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link

new one is indeed very good

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

The one that popped up in my new song recommendations seemed overly wordy even for Finn.

I haven't had a great urge to listen to his solo stuff (when I quit drinking I lost the taste for both whiskey and white guys with acoustic guitars) but that really seems to be his wheelhouse these days.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 31 August 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link

i think if anything his lyrics are more pared down on this album

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

I like the noir/crime direction of some of the new songs, especially The Stove and the Toaster. Also dig, in a really different way, Finn’s solo album from earlier this year.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

I honestly think that Boys and Girls in America is one of my favorite albums ever by anyone. Yet, despite spending quality time with other Hold Steady and Craig Finn solo records, none of them really grab me. Am I doing this wrong?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

kinda with you on that

mookieproof, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

i think it’s completely understandable, hooks and writing really came together on that record. separation sunday will always be my fav but boys and girls was the only album in the world for me when it came out other than br*nd n*w’s the devil and god are raging inside me

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

separation sunday is the best by far

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

Stay Positive for me, it was just the right amount of anthemic before the album after that went too poor man's Springsteen. A mix CD I made that was equal parts BGIA, Separation Sunday and Stay Positive was the one that stayed in my truck for years, though.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

I have no recollection of the last time I heard SS this decade, but it lives in my memory. This is their best since Stay Positive

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

i think it’s completely understandable, hooks and writing really came together on that record. separation sunday will always be my fav but boys and girls was the only album in the world for me when it came out other than br*nd n*w’s the devil and god are raging inside me

― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, August 31, 2019 4:03 PM (five hours ago)

boys and girls is my fav too

(I'm a science fiction partisan these days tho)

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 September 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

i *do* like the warm feeling and i *am* tired of all the dehydration

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link

You've been drunk, but have you been John Berryman on the BBC drunk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGIr7fGdo6o

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

Guess I need to re-evaluate everything after ...Almost Killed Me because I figured it was their only album I needed to hear. Granted, I've barely paid attention to much other than Boys and Girls in America. Everything I heard only made me want to go back to the first, so I never dug as hard on any of the others.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

The band occasionally stopped futzing around to fine-tune the song. It is archetypal Hold Steady. Big classic-rock riff? Check. Propulsive, E Street-style piano? Check. Sad/funny lyrics (about moving to California just to find it’s all “disinterested kissing”)? Check.

From Washington Post article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/after-16-years-the-hold-steady-is-changing-the-business-of-being-in-a-band/2019/08/28/956d9f04-c297-11e9-b72f-b31dfaa77212_story.html

curmudgeon, Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Had no idea they did a song for Game of Thrones with zero contemporary references:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgiTB2NFvAM

... (Eazy), Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link

Looking into it, I guess the lyrics are actually George R. R. Martin’s.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link

From there, to here. From here! To there!
She got in a mosh at a hardcore show there

☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 10 November 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Does anyone else really like the new one, Open Door Policy, that came out a few weeks ago?

They do a good job of finding slightly new directions to bend their sound - 'Hanover Camera' has a Steely Dan groove while 'Unpleasant Breakfast' stitches some disparate sections together in a fun way.

I thought Thrashing Through The Passion was a good comeback, and this one's even better.

aphoristical, Monday, 1 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

I like it, it is even better than Thrashing Thru the Passion, but I was never completely sold on that one - felt more like Hold Steady going through the Hold Steady motion more than anything else. This is hitting the right spot for me. My only complaint is that weird wooing/siren sound effect that runs through "Unpleasant Breakfast" is super obnoxious on headphones, I can't even listen to it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 March 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

i'm liking the sounds, but i could've sworn this band used to have choruses

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Friday, 5 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I suspect fans will be interested in the read

https://defector.com/craig-finn-returns-to-the-scene/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Seeing them tonight, with some band called (checks website) the Mountain Goats? Something like that. I hadn't caught the HS live for years before I saw them at some festival back in 2018 or something and was reminded that they're great fun. (Also reminded that I started a thread on them back in 2004, which is crazy.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2023 23:53 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

I've been listening to Stay Positive, Boys and Girls in America and Separation Sunday a lot this week - so many elements I'd hate in isolation (most of the piano, most of the backing vocals, the way it all kind of sounds like '80s Jersey rock, often Craig Finn's voice) but as a package it all works. (Until the album after Stay Positive when it stopped working completely.)

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 September 2023 08:14 (seven months ago) link

have you listened to Almost Killed Me, the first album? that one’s still my hands down favorite.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 September 2023 15:38 (seven months ago) link

yeah that one is weirdly forgotten

also Lifter Puller>>>Hold Steady

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 September 2023 15:41 (seven months ago) link


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