the juke/bmore/bloghouse frankenstein dance music they play at clubs

haha i forgot about gay/straight binary in my o.p.

the usual thesis being america hates the gays

like i would say this stuff doesnt sound gay enough except apparently its real big at queer nites around here too. well im stumped -- how can i work identity politics into my fundamental dislike of this stuff???

I used to definitely ride for this shit but I agree it's gotten embarassignly bad. the barrier to entry is way too low (logic+serato+blog friends)..the genre has given us a couple dope tracks though...

^^^when ppl post like this they make me want to go vahid on a motherfucker

the only point at which this makes sense to me is the actual sound quality of the traxx that are created - i dont get why tracks sounding like shit, from an engineering standpoint, can ever be seen as a 'good thing'

the drums are just not cool. It's made to either stand around to or like stage dive while spraying beer everywhere

i think that now america can see because of things like indie queer and such as that gays are not actually something to be worried about as far as people who show you up to be cooler than you because like indie even for not v cool people was something abandoned in at the latest 2004

oh. I guess maybe you mentioned that in some of the text I didn't read. I wasn't even thinkng about sound quality

so in conclusion we all just assumed a lot of things that turned out to be wrong :)

yea no idea where this gay stuff came from I'm talking about the djs who play that specific night. Sound quality issues probably comes from guys like sebastian and kavinsky who use cdjs and trainwreck and throw half the eqs to ten and the other half to zero instead of properly mixing

gayness is natural is comes from everywhere like water or the air

well water you have to pay a bill for usually

The weird thing regarding bad mixing is that this stuff really isn't that hard to mix.

Its just big obvious riffs half the time, its nowhere near as touchy as even mixing good deep house or disco can be. Maybe its just years of being a metalhead (and being into industrial and EBM in my teens) that makes it easier for me, mixing Funky drives me crazy.

i have no idea whether the dj at this night im thinking of doesnt beatmatch because he cant or just wont

i should ask via the txt request hotline

its not really about the beatmatching per se imo -- too many djs get so focused on that they forget to pay attention to the vibe of the room
not that its not important, trainwrecks are bad obv

you are opinionated .. some people dont like beat matching and what it has done to people .... the grey dark woods has answers .

nah its not that i just think blaming it on 'djs who dont beatmatch well' or how the bar has been lowered for entry misses the point im trying to make in this thread

or rather the point im trying to discuss in this thread - im not really sure what point im trying to make

the point is to get chix to make out w/each other - that is why people dj

exactly -- what i dont understand is why this shit makes anyone want to make out. i think maybe its that ppl dislike it so much they decide to get drunk which leads to more making out

now were cooking w/fire!!

the point of this thread is to get chix to make out with each other???

i dont think any chicks have even posted in this thread yet br0s -- we got work to do. im going to drink a beer and see what happens

pay the blog-house louder they'll hear us over on "i love style"

deej with an attitude like that no ones ever going to make out because of this thread

i hav 0 beers :(

My issues with Justice style riff music are basically along the lines of over-compression makes for a lack of dynamic range. The music is loud but also very flat sounding, even though tracks like Digitalism's Jupiter Room can be very impressive when played out.

I keep finding myself wanting to mix in Border Community artists, people like Ricardo Tobar. I can't handle the flatness of everything. My issues with fidget mostly revolve around the occasionally just stupid attempts at humour.

I don't play Club music because I'm not from Baltimore, don't play Juke because I'm not from Chicago.

I'm certain I'd just come off as clueless Midwestern white kid who knows nothing about the music.

Now I go find myself alchohol.

im drinking a whiskey

yr prob not a clueless midwesterner because i am not detecting a can do spirit xp

yah beatmatching isnt the sine qua non of dance music, im not saying that, just personal taste, i like not to have to cease moving between tracks. or should i say songs. for me what it maybe comes down to is this rock or dance music, lame binary i know, and not what this thread is supposed to be about im sure
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i think i hav some whiskey but really i want a beer

i ordered a pizza

i could go to the store - id hav to put on shoes - tough :/

i had pizza earlier

i might get some beer then do more work then tomorrow i will buy an iphone

and maybe party

its a iphone celebration yall

I'm drinking Bulleitt mixed with vanilla cream soda, its tasty.

This is both rock and dance, I'm kind of split between thinking of it as deep electroclash (joke) or Heavy NRG.

knob creek straight, gift from coworker

great thread so far

serious ILM threads RIP

thats mostly a good thing but i thought maybe ppl would have some insights here

yeah until tim or vahid shows up all youre gonna get is shenanagins and a <shrug emoticon>

Tim would be pretty ehh about the idea of Heavy NRG, I'm thinking.

My guess is that a lot of this music is of the use once and destroy variety.

But people really never expected anyone to care about disco 30 years later, so who knows?

every time ppl talk about how 'disposable' this stuff is i get all http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/1c/83/e3fe024128a0a540eed10110._AA240_.L.jpg

im open to the idea that some of this music is real good but its the DJs who are shitty

even though tracks like Digitalism's Jupiter Room can be very impressive when played out

this is a fuckin jam

and half the stuff on that chart you posted is good

huge difference between that and the people that trainwreck Young Jeezy into Please Mr Postman Bmore Version imo

It does really remind me of electroclash circa 2002 and electrohouse circa 2004, and a lot of the French stuff is obviously heavily influenced by Braxe, Bangalter and Co., but I'm not saying its all disposable.

I think Joakim's music is pretty obviously a labor of love, and it shows.

gr8080 is playing me some traxx that sound dope but also sound like they hew a lot closer to classic chicago disco-house like CZR or paul johnson or somebody -- with maybe a bit of a more glitchy beat, sorta derrick carter ish -- i enjoy the skippier/glitchier rhythm aspect

but this doesnt feel really radical or anything

This is a useful cross-cultural exchange

lol :)

EDM ... had the perverse effect of pushing a lot of people who might otherwise be (and historically were) into relatively-crass material like blog-house or etc. towards more tasteful material

TBH I think this would have happened anyway with a sizeable proportion of them. I guess the main difference between now and then is that structurallly there just isn't a *need* for a gateway drug from rock music into dance music proper - at least not in the UK and Europe where there are plenty of kids now young enough to have been played house music in the womb. In the US there might be but the gateway needs to be from another direction, I guess this is where EDM comes in.

A tempting but probably not entirely accurate narrative centres around the moment when the Justice Fabriclive 37 mix was shitcanned, Caspa & Rusko were drafted in at short notice and the rest, as far as cartoonish mid-range blare goes, is history. Somewhere there's a parallel universe where that never happened and the evolution of EDM took a slightly different course.

(In addition to just getting into house/techno/disco a lot of the newly grown-up fanbase drifted towards post-dubstep, particularly the jukier more rhythmic side of Hessle Audio, bits of Night Slugs etc.)

It's also significant that 'electro' as a catch-all term for dance music as used by indie kids has virtually disappeared over the last decade, anything termed electro now is more likely to mean DJ Stingray or Helena Hauff or something. By which I mean it veers a lot closer to 'classic' electro with techno elements thrown in, rather than electroclash or frankenhouse or anything similar, and it's not really dilettante-friendly music in the same way.

This has been the best song of every year since 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__TY_86stXw