Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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pretty funny given what barton's saying in the piece, "whip-smart" is such a cutesy twee term. why wouldn't you just say "smart"? why "whip-smart"? if you wanted to call someone smart you'd say they're smart.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

It has a head-patting ring to it, yeah, like you'd tell a 10 year-old they're "whip smart" and then give them a shiny 50p coin.

Cars and Freedom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah exactly, you'd use it talking about a precocious child or something.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.fti.asn.au/blogs/production-support-report/juno.jpg

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's ok to say 'whip-smart'

read before patoing (history mayne), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

and like, yeah it's on the 'front page' of the internet but way far down and laura barton is one of their main writers. the big headline they have up is about a pay-channel football commentator getting the sack, so, you know...

read before patoing (history mayne), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Axegrinder understands that there was much hilarity at Wapping when perplexed hacks realised that Roy must have been reading an Irish edition of The Sun which was missing the Sky Sports tale. Sun readers elsewhere will have seen that the story was in fact splashed across pages one, four and five.

Roy’s misfiring blog post disappeared shortly after the mishap was pointed out. But it has not disappeared from the internet completely, you can see a version of it here.

also most of this stuff has been leaked by sky news.

andy gray is one of the potential litigants in the notw phone hacking thing. cynical, or just being honest?

caek, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

For all the celebrity bollocks they go on for, the Guardian could now realistically claim to be the best newspaper in the anglophone world. Which means, of course, the world.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

least worst

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

least worst might be right, but still.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Usually, the media would be going "this is going too far, no-one can compliment a woman now for fear of getting sacked", but ooh, it's Murdoch effectively doing the sacking, so....

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

apparently mMurdoch is also now NEGOTIATING with government about whether he gets his Sky deal.

not, government is going to make a ruling which will then be followed - but, government is going to NEGOTIATE outcome with Murdoch.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

So it's "um, if we say no, can we still be pals?"

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Murdoch's support couldn't even buy them an election victory, don't see why they're obliged to bend over for him.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm shocked by how old Murdoch looks now. He's lost so much hair that he's finally had "the haircut".

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm wondering what's going to happen when he dies, whether the country and its media and politics will get better or whether the army of mini-Murdochs is too entrenched now. He does seem to wield an enormous amount of personal power that I can't quite see anyone else replicating.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Think someone needs to incept James Murdoch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Osama Hamdan is head of the Hamas international relations department

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, about that... kind of amazing rly

read before patoing (history mayne), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

presumably he was bumped up from the Hamas home electronics department (2nd floor)

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

really surprised noone wanted to talk about the graun giving hamas their own op-ed column

oh wait

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

do despair with the guardian sometimes. saw one of their writers on the bbc politics show on sun discussing the great cameron speech and she basically agreed more or less perfectly with the guy from the sun. what was the point?

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Was it Julian Glover?

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't 'get' that guy and his hilarious little lord fauntleroy byline pic being in the guardian alongside seamus milne. reminds me of the independent, incoherence-wise.

the most revered deity in the universe (history mayne), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Is he any relation to, errrrr, Julian Glover?

Tom D (Lenin's his feir and Liebknecht's his mate) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Even the Mail employs a token leftie or two so I assume he's the Guardian's designated coalition cheerleader in the interests of balance. Still aggravating though, because he tends to appear as the man from the Guardian rather than an outlying columnist.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing is as egregious as the indy's continued employment of bruce anderson

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Glover is civil partnered with Matthew Parris, of course. So I wouldn't expect a massive philosophical divergence.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This Giddens fellow must be regretting writing this?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/mar/09/comment.libya

lycanthrope electrif (Pashmina), Saturday, 26 February 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Piece is some pretty boneheaded stuff even w/o taking "current events" into account.

lycanthrope electrif (Pashmina), Saturday, 26 February 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/26/darin-strauss-car-crash-kira-cochrane

obv a v tragic event for the writer, but like...who commissioned this? it really is a long winded and conceptually weird article. load of rubbish.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i worry about how classist i am sometimes. i stopped reading when i got to "gleave".

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean i am middle-class, but i'm from the west of scotland, my da was a refugee, we were poor when i was a wean, etc. fucking "gleave".

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

tibalt.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

like if she met the guy whose car hit her brother, then that'd be one thing. but as it is it's like the author is kinda offering basic human consolation which anyone really could put forward.

also...doing 40mph in a 30mph zone and hitting a child who was on the side of the road at dusk is more in the realms of tragic rather than heinous. it's not like he was drunk or something.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i managed to finish it and aye, it's a horror.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

what a fucking mess.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

XP Giddens' articles are generally interesting in that they're almost always in line with the positions taken by Tony Blair, whether those positions are articulated in public or not. It does sound like he genuinely believed that Libya was on the path to reform - i wonder whether Blair shared that view.

ShariVari, Sunday, 27 February 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this sycophantic Strokes article irritated me:

saviours of rock and roll

Bob Six, Sunday, 27 February 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haha yeah, glad u thought the same way >>

anyone else see this article in The Guardian yesterday and think it's the band we've been waiting for?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 27 February 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/26/darin-strauss-car-crash-kira-cochrane

obv a v tragic event for the writer, but like...who commissioned this? it really is a long winded and conceptually weird article. load of rubbish.

― I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:32 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark


"Life & Style" section lol

odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Kira Cochrane is the Women's Editor - she probably volunteered to write about it and nobody said no.

anna sui generis (suzy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate to rag on one writer or whatever but almost everything she ever writes is utter rubbish, so narrow.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 27 February 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/mar/03/chocolate-hazelnut-spread-taste-test

i can think of one they're missing. wankers.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 3 March 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It's pieces like that that show quite how far the Guardian has fallen. Back in my day it was all Michael Foot eating Nutella on the West Bank.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 March 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

guardian is amaze u herbs

this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Thursday, 3 March 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

imagine paying a tenner for chocolate spread? i am as big a food wanker as anyone but seriously....A TENNER. you could buy a fucking steak for that.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 3 March 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

at least you can reuse the jar

just sayin, Thursday, 3 March 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link


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