Jesus and Mary Chain Mania!

munki isn't bad by any means, but it's almost a pointless listen b/c i prefer all of the five other records + the b-sides comps over it -- not where i immediately turn when i need my mary chain fix

I dug it out recently, and it's all right, actually pretty good.

It suffers though, because it came out well after they'd made it (was going to be the 'next' album for Warners, but they rejected it).

But, as you say, the other albums have their particular identities, whereas this was 'all encompassing' and too long.

Still, UK buyers beware: The customs and excise will take this, charge you £3 VAT and then £12 handling charge, or something similar.

I listened to Munki on my commute home last night and got to wondering, again, why it seems to be so dismissed.

'birthday' & 'commercial' are jams.

crackin'up is one of the best jamc songs

Still, UK buyers beware: The customs and excise will take this, charge you £3 VAT and then £12 handling charge, or something similar.

Probably cheaper to pay the £32.99 from Rhino UK.

I like the odd J&MC track but they've never fully clicked for me. I may take the plunge on the first two albums in what looks like an outstanding reissue series:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/07/05/jesus-mary-chain-reissues-psychocandy-darklands-tracklists/

I have the albums from the last time they were reissued, plus that four-CD Rhino box that came out a few years ago; that's all I need. As far as the TV appearances and live stuff is concerned, I thought the long-established consensus was that they sucked live. Hell, I thought that was half the point.

Yeah, this is cool but since I have the albums & the box set, this doesn't look worth it to me.

they were terrible on the Automatic tour, that's for sure

I saw them twice and I think they were a great live band in small venues/clubs and a poor live band in theatres/big venues. In the club the volume was more impressive and enveloping and it was fun to be a few feet away from them. On a big stage they just looked like they were standing around waiting for a bus and the venue ate up all the oppresiveness of the sound.

OTM I saw them in a small club in Reading and they were great. Until Jim Reid stormed offstage in the middle of a song for some reason, but they'd played a full set by then anyway.

Some tracks on these reissues that weren't on the box set, like Jesus Fuck for the first time ever.

I saw JAMC twice after the comeback and they were very very weak live

I was leaning towards rebuying Psychocandy in this reissue, but they've sullied it by clagging six b-side tracks at the end of the actual album.

And anyway, Jesus Fuck is more or less like ten other clangy-shouty-feedbacky b-sides that they put out.

I was leaning towards rebuying Psychocandy in this reissue, but they've sullied it by clagging six b-side tracks at the end of the actual album.

― Officer Pupp, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:43 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

don't understand this. CDs are a disposable delivery device for files, right?

I saw the mary chain five or six times & the only time they didn't absolutely RAWK was on the Munki tour after William had bailed. They even outstaged most of the acts on the 92 Lollapalooza roster in broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon!

wait I spent lots of money to buy the rhino reissues - what's the diff this time around?? I could go visit the link but I prefer to be indignant.

The only one of the Rhino reissues I didn't get was Munki, not sure I want to spend the money on these seeing as I have the box set too.

I know another ilxor (Sick Mouthy maybe?) has railed against them sticking bonus tracks at the end of CDs, but I don't get why thats such a deal breaker for some people. Just stop your CD or don't rip 'em if they bug you that much. As long as they are at the end of the disc and not cluttering up the original tracklisting, I have no issue with this. I'd rather have them cram four extra tracks on that disc than struggling to fill up a second disc worth of crap so they can charge a "deluxe" price.

saw them when they were touring for honey's dead and again on their reunion tour a few years ago and they were way better on their reunion tour

The lyrics to JMC's "About You" got me a girlfriend back on the old college vaxmail system singles b-board back circa fall of '88. No big deal, but I thought it should be recorded for both record and computer nurd posterity.

I'll get Psychocandy for sure as the Rhino reissue has an annoying audio hiccup on "Just Like Honey" at the 8 second mark that drives me nuts. Also, finally having "Jesus F*ck" is important. Also, to this day I find all the very early video totally exhilarating - it makes me want to button the top button of my shirt and turn my back to everyone.

The only one of the Rhino reissues I didn't get was Munki,

munki wasn't reissued by rhino.

I see that Darklands will have the NME version of "Some Candy Talking" which makes it a must have for me. Also, can't wait to hear "Darklands" with strings!

I wonder if they'll be newly remastered? Does anyone know if Upside Down contained the 2006 remasters?

These are truly completist gems. Will likely get Automatic too as I passed on the Rhino version.

You wanna talk completeist?

"Vegetable Man" and "Upside Down (12" demo version)" plz.

Also, "Taste of Cindy" when it originally came out on the "Hit" magazine e.p. had a split second intake of breath which was excised on the album.

IT WAS AS IMPORTANT A MOMENT AS THE SPLIT SECOND PAUSE BEFORE THE SECOND GUITAR SOLO ON "I HEARD HER CALL MY NAME"

OK, that track listing for CD2 isn't revealing what those tracks actually are, in most cases.

I never got the Dualdisc issues, the extras looked fairly lean pickings, and weren't available in the UK for some reason.

OK, I've decided, those 2CD+1DVD sets are going to have to live at my house...

"Vegetable Man" and "Upside Down (12" demo version)" infos plz

Also, still want to hear their cover of Jefferson Airplane...

Well, as I say, the 12" version of "Upside Down" had those two tracks on it. It never got issued, but I did have a white-label copy of it which I sold for a tidy sum a while back.

The "Vegetable Man" was as per the 7" version, it's not been reissued before, apart from the box set.

Actually, come to think of it, they had a song called "Send me away" on their original demo cassette which I've never seen since, unless it has a different title

munki wasn't reissued by rhino.

Explains why I don't have it and never came across a copy then.

i heard (and not via ILM !) that upon the release of Munki on Creation, it sold less than 3000 copies.
would love to know how many of the reissue sells !

It was so long after-the-fact, it doesn't surprise me.

It seemed so odd that WBros turned the album down and released the bits-and-bobs collection "The J&MC hate RockandRoll"

everytime i see this thread, i'm freshly repissed that it doesn't say "chainia"

do over

what? no

"SMC to JAMC and BRMC but maybe GHMC is better or possibiliy IFJDOMC, MCCMMCCM, or HFRUEIIMC"

Bar two and three, were any of these actual bands?

I went to the RFH gig and nearly got into a fight with Bobby Gillespie in the toilets after I politely asked him why he wasn't playing drums.

It was good in a nostalgia fest kind of way, Snakedriver was particularly robust but William was pretty fucking awful and every time Jim went to say anything between songs he just did a massive power chord so you couldn't hear what he was saying. And they murdered the slower stuff like Nine Million Rainy Days. Pretty sad really.

They were better at the Brutus benefit but I guess that was a more emotionally charged night or what have you.

they were great at the roundhouse a few years ago. much better than circa munki

surprised munki was so unpopular, if it indeed was, it's probably in my top 3 JAMC

Munki was totally decent, though I only gave it a chance last year for the first time since its rep was so bad.

interested in the Darklands reissue

i once had the Upside Down/Vegetable Man 7" but i think i lost it

;-(

it's not hard to find

yeah, it's probably in my box of records

> OK, that track listing for CD2 isn't revealing what those tracks actually are, in most cases.

ok, disk2
1-2 are from CRE012
3-6 are Peel session 23 Oct 84
7-9 are Peel session 03 Feb 85
10-13 are Peel session 29 Oct 85
14-22 are demos from 83-85.
14, 21, 22 (Up Too High / Living End / My Little Underground) were on Negative Thinking
20 (Just Like Honey) was on NEG13
the others (Upside Down / Never Understand / Taste The Floor / In A Hole / Something's Wrong) were previously unreleased. doesn't say if Upside Down (Demo) is from the 12"
23 Never Understand Alternate Version was on Negative Thinking
24 Jesus Fuck previously unreleased

dvd has

Never Understand, You Trip Me Up, Just Like Honey videos
In A Hole from whistle Test (12 March '85) (but not the others)
North London Poly Riot (15 March '85)
Interview / Never Understand from VRT Belgium (17 March '85)
Just Like Honey / Inside Me from the Tube (11 October '85)

Lovely.

You say "not the others", but they only broadcast one song at the time, so maybe that was all they did.

really? it's been more than that in my head all these years. i remember the buzz (and distinct lack of, was really divisive) in the VI form common room the next day. all that from 3ish minutes? (haven't watched the dvd yet)

Looking at the HMV page for this, it seems they've found Murray Dalglish.

Was he missing? His wee brother still lives in Bishopbriggs as far as I know.

Nickname: "Dalgy" of course.