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CAMP?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

sure, it's just that you get caught in a neverending "omg it's the best film ever!"/"no it sucks" debate, where there appears to be no middle ground.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

that was to kenan

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

have any of you people even SEEN Mean Streets? I can't believe nobody feels an urge to discuss that one.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i still think he should've called mean streets season of the witch

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

you mook

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

that was to jimmybommy.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Henry Hill is neither an innocent nor a monster - he's just this kind of mediocre gangster, an anti-hero as s1ocki points out, who after all the ultra-violence and glamor and drugs ends up as just this boring middle-class shlub in the 'burbs, which is probably the life he was best suited for all along.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

that was to anthony.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I've seen "Mean Streets". It's not bad, but I think that "GoodFellas" improves on it in just about every way possible.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Dune is camp as fuck, man! I'm not sure I have ever seen a more camp film! Kyle Machlachlanachlanchlanan plays a prince who's into condiments and STING is his fucking dad or something and it's directed by David Fucking Lynch and there's a giant worm thing and jesus HAVE YOU SEEN IT HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR CLOTHES???!!!

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

sure, it's just that you get caught in a neverending "omg it's the best film ever!"/"no it sucks" debate, where there appears to be no middle ground.

Ah ha. I guess I don't hang around geeky enough geeks -- I don't know anyone who thinks it sucks (for any halfway coherent reason, anyway).

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

HH isn't supposed to be a sympathetic character, he's just someone with an interesting story...He's a complete asshole, and an idiot, though, and did a lot of his work with people like him, dudes who didn't know the meaning of keeping a low profile. In no way portrayed as an innocent--he openly states his only goal in life ever was to become a criminal. (xpost someone else just said this)

And yeah, King of Comedy is fucking great! I think its one of my favorite ever performances by DeNiro.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

you know, I was kind of kidding, the first time I called you a fanny.

you really are a fanny.

this is to jimmybommy.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I've seen "Mean Streets". It's not bad, but I think that "GoodFellas" improves on it in just about every way possible.

talk to the hand, cuz Anthony ain't listenin' no more.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think they're the same kind of movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Arsed.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

just cuz harvey keitel isn't in GoodFellas?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

exactly, yes.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

mean streets is a harvey keitel movie and goodfellas is not, thus there is absolutely no basis for comparison

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

also in general people have just talked abt this film too much, and very rarely is anything new said about it. for something somewhat new see the scorsese chapter in gilberto perez's the material ghost.

mean streets has some great moments, but a lot of it is kind of arrhythmic (not in a good way), the thematic material is presented kind of clumsily, and certain scenes really suffer from piss-poor post-synch sound.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

One time a group of us went to go see Raging Bull in the Film Forum and the conversation the rest of the day was just like this:

Person A: (something completely innocuous about, like, pickles here)
Person B: What? You fuck my wife?!?!?!

it wasn't as funny the next day.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the opening shots, with the "be my baby"-scored jump cut, are some kind of formal breakthrough though.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

actually, I think that's pretty great, Ally. But I'm kind of used to quoting movies with friends for years.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

for some reason my friends and i are always re-enacting the "i got some nice new dresses for you" scene, i find it endlessly amusing

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

someone do the "funny how?", quick.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I did the "funny how?" on that how well do you take compliments thread.

the "she's a tiger" and "take her for ice cream" scenes in Scarface have been referenced plenty any time I've been to a bar recently.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

RJG, YOU FUCK MY WIFE?@!?!?!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck how? like I was a clown?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw 5 minutes of "scarface" the other night while waiting for a video to rewind, which is as much as i've ever seen of it. what a strange film (if i saw a representative 5 minutes).

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

what did you see?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I have never understood what's good about Pacino's Scarface.

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

what did you see?
-- s1ocki (slytus...), August 19th, 2004.

a few close-ups of al pacino with cake makeup, driving a car, talking in a funny accent, then he visits his mother and sister an continues talking in a funny accent but with fewer close-ups.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i like carlito's way better

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

you'd prefer his orgasm face.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i love the VO in carlito's way: "so, here's me..."

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think they're the same kind of movie

I don't think MS really knows exactly what kind of movie it wants to be. It's kind of a loosely connected series of vignettes that attempt to sketch and pay quasi-nostalgic tribute to a half-remembered adolescent milieu. It's less cohesive than GF - perhaps it suffers from not being as explicitly autobiographical - there's no central figure with the ability to pull all the threads together. Plus the ending of MS is kind of boring and doesn't quite attain the tragic dimensions it would like to have.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

carlito's way was voted "best film of the 1990s" by cahiers du cinema!!

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

dear french people i love u

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

gros bizous monsieur s1ocki! i tip my beret to you!!!

― ze french people, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

mwah mwah

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

My, this thread is active.

scorsese should've directed the breakfast club!

It could have only improved that movie. Would Anthony Michael Hall been a killer or a victim?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

it would certainly make that scene where they're smoking pot and running around a lot more intense

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

And the eighties soundtrack is already in place!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

"Don't you EVER forget about me!" *fires gun*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

some friends of mine in college were talking a "topics in directorial approaches" class or something, and an assignment was to do a treatment of a "scorsese western." which seems to take auterism to a whole new asinine level, but the results were kind of interesting nonetheless.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I wholeheartedly recommend Joe Queenan's If You're Talking To Me, Your Career Must Be In Trouble and Confessions of a Cineplex Heckler to everyone here. Excerpts from the index should explain why.

"DeNiro
appropriate casting as character named Noodles, 76
first Spanish conquistador with Mott Street accent, 130-131
and Mickey Rourke, 72
and seal of confession, 58
and slime, 72
and slugs, 72
hair in Cape Fear resembling rat marinated in Vaseline, 148

Dunne, Griffin
traumatized by Joni Mitchell music, 142

Mastrantonio, Mary Elizabeth
influence of Pam Grier on, 38

Pacino, Al
trouble pronouncing the word "shit," 36

Scorcese, Martin
surprising ability to keep getting dates, 139"

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

poor scorsese, forever stereotyped on the basis of his gangster melodramas.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

he only REALLY made one

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, we could talk about Bringing Out the Dead if you like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

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