Winamp Sucks

The main advantage of winamp is the ease of finding things in your library quickly, the library sorting and small text interface. The program is almost entirely designed for people who don't like to label/sort their music all the time. But I have never been in a situation where I've wanted to load an entire folder with subfolders and miscellaneous files through My Computer.

However, since my last harddrive erase (and loss of tons of music) I have just stuck with WMP even though I'm not a big fan.

Oh, I forgot to say (or think) that I never used the library in Winamp, just the playlist. So if this is a library issue, no idea.

The library sorting and finding is what I like about Songbird, so maybe it is a bit weird that I never even tried Winamp's library in many years of using Winamp.

xp and winamp 5.601, using windows explorer as a library. james mitchell's suggestion doesn't work.

winamp classic is still the best - quickest mama unlike the bloated itunes

Winamp Modern is also pretty zippy as long as you don't use the Media Library. Bento/Big Bento can both shove it though.

all I know is when I wanna hear "tears before bedtime" the app opens in seconds, I hit "j" and type in the track and voila! there it is. itunes takes so long to open

I still use winamp more than itunes.

https://jordaneldredge.com/projects/winamp2-js/

I've been using this a little bit, but mostly because I have all my media dumped into Plex: https://medium.com/plexlabs/introducing-plexamp-9493a658847a

i actually still use winamp at home

same lol

I don't have any need for it any more but Winamp >>>> iTunes.

man, I used Winamp up until very recently and it never went wrong. Don't know why I use AIMP now and it's always failing to detect what sound card I'm using (I swap all the time)

Still using WinAmp 5.61, see no reason to change. It opens quickly, can handle massive playlists, doesn't crash (or at least it's never crashed for me), and does what I need with minimal fuss.

i also still use winamp

although it still forgets to be always on top all the time

I want to go back to winamp because aimp doesn't have the mini mode, so I always have to go and find it, and it doesn't understand that if I drag some mp3s in, they should stay in the same order. But where can I get winamp now? The only website I can find doesn't have any download links.

winamp 5.6.4.318 for windows installer (inside a zip)

lol @ me

the minute I post this there will probably be some kind of world-shattering exploit revealed, but until then I feel pretty comfortable saying winamp is a perfect piece of software

winamp was great which means it still is but i haven't looked back from foobar2000.

tried several times to get foobar the way i wanted it and failed; no doubt i'll give it another shot when winamp stops working

k otm

http://www.winamp.com/ -> "follow this link to get updated news" -> http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=374929 -> second post = download links for the latest version?

ok, plex on iphone is actually.. pretty good now?

so i've switched from PC to Mac and I'm having trouble finding a media player that works properly. I just want to be able to play music. I'm not interested in creating a media library or making playlists or any of that jazz. Just want to be able to drag and drop a folder or double-click a file and get it to play.

iTunes - is just fucking awful in every way. It's as though the people who invented it had never understood people's needs. I'm sure last time I tried to use it, it tried to automatically copy all 2TBs of my music collection into low-bit m4a files on a hidden folder on my computer. Also, I never worked out how to get it to play an album all the way through without randomly shuffling to some other tune I played a few weeks ago. Terrible.

Winamp - Ah Winamp. It really kicked the llama's ass back in the day. Easy to use, not fussy about putting things into playlists etc. Just drag a folder into the window and it plays straight through. Sadly doesn't seem to enjoy life on my Mac. When I try to drag/drop a music folder into the window it says the files aren't supported. Lovely.

VLC Media player - Can't go wrong with this? Wrong. If I drag a folder into the window, it doesn't expand into tracks, it just sits there as a folder until I click to expand it. Rubbish if I want to copy a bunch of album folders into it. I've tried all the settings, including one which seems to say it affects this, but it doesn't do anything.

Elmedia Player - insists on showing me the album cover instead of my tracklist. The tracklist comes as an optional floating window which you have to toggle on. Not useful.

In conclusion: Media players are awful and Macs are terrible machines invented by a terrible company who prize compactness over functionality. Somebody help me out here before I lob this over-priced piece of crap out the window and go back to my trusty 2012 Asus.

Clementine?

i'll check it! thanks!

"Clementine Quit Unexpectedly"

*Sigh*

And people told me that Macs 'just work'

foobar?

let's try it

working so far!! :-) thanks!

crikey, that was a saga

foobar is still good yep

i mean Apple sucks but it works pretty well for me on the PC

I have not touched QCD in decades but apparently it was still being updated as of last year:

https://quintessential-media-player.en.softonic.com/

not convinced that that's a real QCD update

for macs i'd ask elvis telecom what he uses

so I spoke to a Mac expert friend who suggested I really do look into iTunes again and that the functionality, particularly in relation to things like Serato which I use a lot, can outweigh some of its shortcomings.
I've never put my music into libraries, rather I've always kept it in folders which are carefully alphabetised on an external drive and which I access via Explorer (and more recently Finder).
But the idea of chucking all 2TB into a library and risk a jungle of broken/mislabelled ID3 tags does put me off. Will it mess up the already labyrinthine personal system I've cultivated over decades? Will it confuse Serato and mess up its own very finnickity Crate system?
Maybe the wrong thread for this question I guess...

lol have fun

I use Small Player (https://www.igorware.com/small-player) for playing sound files. It's a tiny program, starts instantly. It's great. Just plays stuff and nothing else. I haven't used it much for listening to music for hours on end or anything like that (I do all that in Spotify), so I can't guarantee how it performs. I use it mostly for listening through single mp3/wav files/folders of my own stuff, and it's always worked perfectly for me.

Oh shit, I got your PC-Mac switch the wrong way round. Tough luck.

Foobar2000 still rules. It can use your folder structure to organise its browser and it's also pretty flood for managing metadata tags. Not sure where the Mac version is at in terms of development.

Pretty *good.

iTunes - is just fucking awful in every way. It's as though the people who invented it had never understood people's needs.

Alternatives on the mac are limited. There's Swinsian and a fairly crappy foobar2000 version (PC version is much better).

For mass-tagging on the mac there's Yate, Musicbrainz Picard and (if you like command line) Beets.

Don't know about mac but foobar runs very well under wine in linux and Peter is actively looking for bugs to improve compatiblity

people like IINA as a kind of better VLC for mac.
https://iina.io

but just to preview a file, hitting spacebar after selection lets you play it immediately.

toaster plugin suddenly stopped working correctly and i can't figure out why

ffs

Happy 25th anniversary to @Winamp!

The first version of ⚡Winamp⚡ was released as freeware on April 21st, 1997!

⚡🦙⚡

Winamp, it really whips the llama's ass! pic.twitter.com/sLYQUa0g5P

— Daniel Albu (@danielalbu) April 21, 2022

Lol

i always expect more from DJ Mike Llama after that, but he peaked with the Llama Whippin' Intro

I still use it! Just for double-clicking files in Windows to listen to individual tracks or preview things. I don't use it to organize music or listen to albums or anything. But whenever I double-click an audio file in Windows it pops up and it's somehow comforting that it functions and looks exactly the same as it did when I started using it 20+ years ago.

it remains my main music player tbh