but to argue that hes actually explaining what it is about wayne's music that makes it so singular would be what i consider 'insightful' or would qualify as beyond what basically every other rag has done when writing about dude's music
this isn't music criticism about wayne, or music criticism at all. he says up front he was only sort of superficially a fan at the start of the year. sure it's anthropological, or amateur-anthropological, but i think he consciously doesn't overreach in trying to pretend that he knows things he doesn't or grasps things at a level he can't possibly given his position.
mostly he's just saying, here's where i am, here's what i see. you can find his observations banal or obvious i guess, but i think that's always easy to say after you read something like this -- "well, that's what i woulda thought."
also i'm not even a big fan of carter iii, and i agree that the musical observations scattered through the thing are pretty much rote wayne-ology. what i like is the way the music acts in this setting, how it reverberates for the kids and the teacher, and the kind of intangible force it provides as a counterbalance to a lot of more tangible and grimmer things. it is not the greatest thing i've ever read about how music functions in culture, but i think it's a good and honest shot at it, and not many people even really try to write about that.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 13 September 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
no im not the type who would teach inner city high school let alone reflect upon the cultural and social differences using rap music as a comparative device shit was lame as fuck. posting on ilm is way more fun
Xposst!
― Surfboard Pre (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Saturday, 13 September 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i agree with that post xp
― Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Saturday, 13 September 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
his observations banal or obvious
yeah that part
― Surfboard Pre (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Saturday, 13 September 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Oxford American isn't VIBE, and he's not writing about Weezy. He's writing about the city and its inhabitants and how he came to understand them.
― HOOS clique iphones fool get ya steen on (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:07 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark
― HOOS clique iphones fool get ya steen on (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 13 September 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
tipsy's last post is basically what i really like about the piece. I like how, despite it being very well-written, I don't get the feeling that the writer is trying to narrow down what the music means to his version of it. There's a certain humility to it, and I think that's what underlies the (yes, still pretentious) snapshot/numbering - the idea being that these different parts don't necessarily add up to a whole.
― Tim F, Saturday, 13 September 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
BTW probably a bad strategic move to ride my dick when it comes to hip hop
― Tim F, Saturday, 13 September 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
So I know this isn't news or anything, but I'm way behind on this shit. Not so far behind that I haven't realised that this is brilliant. It just took me a while is all.
Also, I wish every song on the radio right now sounded like Comfortable.
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Monday, 8 December 2008 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link
"Shawty say i lo lo lo lo look like a lollipop" - Lil Wayne" - real facebook group!!!
yeah I only heard this album about a month or so ago. it's terrific.
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 11 December 2008 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link
okayyyyy...i stand corrected, apparently "shawty say i lo lo lo lo look like a lollipop" is how it goes on the clean version. i was wondering why i kept changing my mind about how that line went, depending on where i had heard it last.
― miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone hear the new empire mixtape?
― ianmaxwell, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
basically every year end blurb about this is like "yeah it's not perfect - in fact it's really inconsistent, but that makes us love it more! what an awesome look into the crazy drug alien lil wayne! he is so interesting that he can't even make a good front to back album!"
rock critics on some bullshit shocker
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
the gq profile of him is pretty good tho
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not sure i can bear to read another lil wayne profile but link?
― some dude, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link
it's the only feature from their last issue not online so you're just gonna have to take my word for it
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
y'know i think i can do that
― some dude, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
ww the lies i posted on this thread, typical republican
― rorschaq (usic), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i swaer to god i might flip out of i hear Miss Officer once. and how was this a 'bonus' track and now it's a single? i'm goin bongos over this
― Ballistic, Sunday, 28 February 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
If you hear it once? How do you know that you hate it so much if you haven't heard it yet?
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i meant one more time. good lord the early am is not kind to my fingers and brain.
― Ballistic, Sunday, 28 February 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
it wasn't a bonus track in the traditional 'this is just a little extra addition to the real album' sense so much as in the 'this album was being tinkered with so much up until the last minute that the back cover tracklisting is missing some songs and we had to reprint it as an insert'
― dora the explaro (some dude), Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ahh that makes a lot more sense then.
― Ballistic, Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Plus, you know, they're going to be milking as much Weezy stuff as they can for the next year.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i'll be looking forward to his reimagination of the Reading Rainbow theme by year's end...
― Ballistic, Sunday, 28 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i will be disappointed if he doesn't do anything with "pants on the ground"
― musically, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
loOOkin like a FOOOOOoooOOOOOl
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:06 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
we're talking about the "Mrs. Officer" that peaked on the charts 18 months ago right?
― dora the explaro (some dude), Sunday, 28 February 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah what the fuck is this revive even about
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
heard hes making a follow up to 500 degreez thats meant to b good
― plax (ico), Sunday, 28 February 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
my friend teaches high school in brooklyn and he told me just the other day that one kid just started reciting and singing word for word "mr. carter" in the middle of class and all the kids laughed a lot
― Surfboard Pre (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
great fuckin story kid
― Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:18 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark
lol
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 15 November 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
So C3 is still great, eh.
― altered boners (rennavate), Monday, 15 November 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
just "a milli", "let the beat build" and "ain't got nuthin"
and "lollipop"
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 15 November 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll say that it was pretty much the last listenable full thing he ever did
carter 3 sessions really are so much better tho -- production palate on that was way more in line w/ what i think his persona is/should've been then
this still rings true to me tho
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 November 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
surfboards pretty much otm
Oh yeah, The Carter 3 Sessions is incredible... "What He Does" "Something You Forgot" "La La La" fucking "WORLD OF FANTASY" (even though it got turned into "Playing With Fire," but "WOF" is still better, imo).
― altered boners (rennavate), Monday, 15 November 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
my niece was 4 when she felt chinchallops
― J0rdan S., Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:41 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark
^^lol'd at myself
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 November 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
When a classmate complained about some bullshit policy last semester one of the TAs said "I am just a player in this game you see, so go blame the referee don't complain to me"
XD
― HOOS clique iphones fool get ya steen on (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:16 PM bookmarkflaglink
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