I HATE APPLE

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I dunno maybe someone else here knows of a better way.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Does that work for music/video items? It does for apps, did not used to for music.

mh, Monday, 21 February 2011 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, no idea. I only ever bought one album from itunes (back in the DRM days) and ended up buying the CD anyway.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

If you've "lost" some purchases or somehow screw up your account, you can contact iTunes support and they'll throw certain items back in your download queue if you ask nicely.

mh, Monday, 21 February 2011 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

What itunes needs is one button that's all 'Download all purchased items' or something. I even have an iphone app that has such a button. Why Apple doesn't already offer that fuction is a mystery ghost.jpg.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Used Senuti to copy from iPhone to computer. Worked like a charm. Fuck you Apple.

Super Cub, Monday, 21 February 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm never using iTunes store again. Don't know why I was using it at all.

Super Cub, Monday, 21 February 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Contacting iTunes support to get them to push purchases back out seems... somewhat reasonable. Otherwise, why not just send your friends your username/password and they all click that button?

mh, Monday, 21 February 2011 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link

If they've got you user/pass your security's compromised anyway so what difference does it make? I'd rather have a stranger play music I've already bought than buy a load of new stuff under my name, and the latter function is there.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link

There is some procedure about authorizing computers that could probably help with that. One computer at a time could be authorized for re-downloads and Apple could have a max number of re-downloads per year or something.

xpost

Super Cub, Monday, 21 February 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link

You can't even see what you've previously bought without sifting through a really, really horrible list of purchases that appears in blocks of 10 (date/time descending) and is completely uncustomisable. That whole procedure is dogshit and has not been improved at all ever.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

You can't redownload music or movies from the store except via support. If you give a good sob story they will let you redownload everything *once* otherwise they're really hard ass about it.

You can transfer iTunes purchases back from an iPod/iPhone/iPad easily though -- just hook it up, right-click in the source pane and hit "transfer purchases".

(This even works if the i/i/i isn't synced with that machine: if the Mac is authorised for the account, "transfer purchases" is an option in the "want to sync" dialogue that appears.)

stet, Monday, 21 February 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

[iTunes is] a hideous binary turd that transforms the sparkling world of music and entertainment into a stark, unintuitive spreadsheet

this is true

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I think they confused iTunes with ilx.xls

mh, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

otm w/ the syncing comments, it largely the reason i dropped ipods altogether

still admittedley use itunes for just playing music tho. foobar takes far too much time to get "looking good" and winamp does this bizarre thing with toshiba laptops where it disables the soundcard. it only happens after using winamp for the first time...next boot-up, plip goes my soundcard.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

as a veteran of the days of having to grapple w/config.sys to wring as much out of the 640k of ram as possible i am somewhat confused as to why plugging in an ipod and having it copy yr music automatically confounds some people

Romford Spring (DG), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

there is no copying. if you plug it into a comp. foreign to where you have your music it finds nothing on the comp and deletes every single thing you've got on the ipod. i'm constantly switching between desktop and laptop + uni. computer labs so it became mostly a hassle, as i have music spread out on (save for uni.,obv.) both comps

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Uh, that is if you SYNC IT with a foreign comp. And it asks you if you want to sync with that one instead. If you want to fuck with the contents of your ipod at a foreign computer, turn on manual library management.

mh, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

the sparkling world of music

What is he, a Twilight vampire?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, there needs to be a lot more configuration with libraries and something more advanced than the iTunes Home Sharing feature, but blaming Apple for not doing something awesome and innovative with file management when you're having trouble managing your own files is kind of a non-starter.

mh, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Having actually read Brooker's piece now, the only thing he's missing is that there is a checkbox to do exactly what he wants to do, but he'll end up dragging the files in iTunes, not in the Finder. Pretty sure the computer industry is still ineffectively trying to deprecate things like the Finder and Windows Explorer, but they just haven't found a better system yet.

imo having iTunes or whatever manage all your media is easier because you don't give a shit where the files are, but I might just be rigidly embracing my new anti-ocd aesthetic.

mh, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/steve-jobs/8354215/Gordon-Brown-blocked-knighthood-for-Steve-Jobs.html

guess who else hates apple

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, March 1, 2011 2:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol that article is by my brother

caek, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't getting the syncing gripes either. I plug my iphone into 3 different computers regularly and it only syncs to one, and only when I tell it to. Its pretty customizable.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Customizable via itunes.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

which, lemme elaborate, is bloatware that takes up to 4minutes to boot up before giving you another delay while it decides to sync for another minute or so. whereas i can drag and drop win. explorer folders onto my walkman (mp3) and be done with it within a timespan of 40seconds.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

which, lemme elaborate, is bloatware that takes up to 4minutes to boot up before giving you another delay while it decides to sync for another minute or so. whereas i can drag and drop win. explorer folders onto my walkman (mp3) and be done with it within a timespan of 40seconds.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Syncing works perfectly for me, I just hate that I have to do it at all.

just woke up (lukas), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf i think you have a shit computer if it takes 4 minutes for itunes to load

Romford Spring (DG), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

just timed mine - 8 seconds

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i have had problems w/it being slow as hell on older computers tho

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i've got 15gigs left, so yeah, it's a slo-mo. which is why the comment upthread that i have the music spread on a variety of comps.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

You're telling me I can have every piece of music ever recorded playable right in front of me but i have to wait 4 minutes for it to book up!!??

F that.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

iono i don't despise apple but after 7 or so ipods, ranging from shuffles to fullblown 80gig wonderkids, i don't think i've ever realized how much more efficient a plainjane mp3 player has been (and a lot less costly). there's an insane amount of customizability, all my album artwork is displayed (via a drag and drop of a single picture into the folder, which is p great and doesn't copy itself to multiple mb's like it does on itunes w/ each song getting it's own picture), and battery life lasts for days.

maybe something will fuck up in the next month or so but otherwise i'm kinda astonished how long i had been living under a cloud just b/c it seemed natural to buy an ipod and nothing else.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

see: internet browser

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I really like the iTunes genius function

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

it's like pandora with your own music

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

the new thumbplay beta is pretty sick yall jus fyi

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I have lots of issues with itunes, syncing just isn't one of them. Many xposts

sofatruck, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf i think you have a shit computer if it takes 4 minutes for itunes to load

this problem is by no means confined to itunes, or to apple (microsoft word, for instance, is like offender #1 here), but there is absolutely no reason any computer manufactured in the last 5 or even possibly 10 years should take 4 minutes to load a media player. as computers became more powerful and became it faster, people stopped bothering with code optimization. which is, amongst other things, an aesthetic loss.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

(n.b. i am a linux-running hippie)

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

not true. 10.4 to 10.5 was all about refactoring and optimization.

caek, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean this as a general trend from, like, 1990. i am sure that sometimes steve jobs says the word "optimization" onstage.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh sorry i've fallen into Be Mean About Apple Mode. always tiresome. although i guess this would be the thread for it.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Constraints of iOS have done wonders here.

stet, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

10.4 to 10.5 added few new features while making everything smaller and faster.

Everything except iTunes.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

iTunes has had some performance boosts, but they keep chucking everything and the kitchen sink into it. It's interestingly monolithic, especially when you consider Apple still has separate Mail/iCal/Contacts apps that are well-built around frameworks that each ties into. iTunes is an iPod manager, online store, and music/video library all in one. I haven't used it on Windows for quite some time, but on newer macs it doesn't do all that bad, outside of a few hiccups when it initiates/finishes syncing a device or when you're being constrained by hard drive access.

I'd almost bet that as things become more iOS-like, we might see either a separation of these interests, or at least a major reworking of how the whole ecosystem links together.

mh, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

itunes takes like a fortnight to start up on my mbp after a crash. my library is pretty big, and i guess it's rebuilding some cache or something, but it does seem grossly inefficient.

caek, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Hard drive thrashing, I would bet.

You'd be amazed how much more smoothly this shit goes on SSDs or fast desktop systems.

mh, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link


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