future of ~the internet~

i thought the twitter narrative was pointles>gimmicky>useful for certain things>twitter feeds being referred to in news items

referred to in news items = death i think

i mean does anyone seriously think it's going to be around in, say, 10 years? i'm just saying it's going to be quicker than that, i guess.

what's gonna replace it?

i don't know

if i did i would be drinking mountain dew to a soundtrack by trent reznor, not talking to you assholes

when you have a credible* replacement for public communications call me and we'll get some angel funding

*not blogs, tumblr, facebook, etc

not buying the implicit assumption in that that there is a real need or desire for "public communications" of 160 chars that is of interest to any more than a tiny tiny fraction of the population, once the initial craze has died down ca. 2012.

there i said it.

that a lot of people use it (although it's not really that many) does not mean it solves a ubiquitous problem. a lot of people bought tamagotchis.

people didn't use tamagotchis to help organise worldwide political protests tho

1) people didn't use twitter either!

2) rolling revolutions in developing countries is not a business model.

facebook statuses already do everything twitter does

i don't use twitter much myself, but that's because i'm a geek and use an actual rss reader. real people get their links from twitter.

facebook is too oriented around real-world friends and the interface is increasingly awful.

lol at "real people get their links from twitter."

also lots of things help organize worldwide political protests, like way more than twitter does, we just don't hear about them because they aren't "twitter."

there is literally nothing twitter does that facebook can't adapt itself to do better. it's been shifting away from being oriented around real-world friends for a long time now.

twitter is awful and useless imo, only time I ever look at it is when someone links to it

the future is awful and useless

caek, getting/posting links is a lot of the value of twitter for the many, many non-geeks who use it.

i think facebook will die before twitter does. it's just trying to do too many things at once.

i sort of always wondered how exactly rss readers would take over the world. barring some iPad-based miracle it looks like they won't for a while. twitter has that space locked up.

all been downhill since the glory days of compuserve imo

i was just lolling at the idea that twitter users are somehow representative of "real people"

love twitter but trying to rationalise this is a waste of time really. i'd expect it to eventually allow longer tweets just via a 'read more' option anyway. would probably quit facebook if it wasn't for its usefulness just as a social diary.

yeah it would be cool if they allowed longer tweets and also had a 'like' button but then wait it would just be facebook minus everything else facebook can do

i'm lolling at the idea that a usable forum for public communications is some fad

maybe facebook will own it, i dunno. but it's not like twitter is surviving on novelty value.

apparently the future of the internets is some twitter fbook grudge match

who will survive and what will be left of them

i'm lolling at the idea that a usable forum for public communications is some fad

forums for public communications can not be a fad or die ever

yeah seriously, it's possible that in ten years ~neither~ will be around, and what "replaces" them might not look like either.

how will the revolutions organize then though ?! rip political change and human communication : (

will html be around in 10 years

i previously summarised my feelings abt twitter btw

its like i dont understand the conventions, and it feels like boring middleaged ppl figured it out quicker than i did and i'm sick of watching the news and they do their twitter bit and i'm like what? why do ppl on twitter matter. And the stupid fake words its generated are uniformly irritating like what retweet? idk then theres this thing where you're supposed to follow things in realtime now and i'm like what i cant keep up and all of this is gibberish to me.

― plax (ico), Friday, February 4, 2011 9:58 PM (2 weeks ago)

so the future = centralization then? apps just become UI shells that do all the dirty work via cloud computing, media is all delivered via streaming services from a central server (ie spotify, netflix's on demand thing, etc). nothing is decentralized except the actual device (phone, pad, whatever you want to call it)

haven't said a word about revolutions

"may not look like either" - well, duh. but the point is that twitter and facebook actually provide value to people, and will not die until something else emerges that can provide equivalent value.

tamagotchis provided value

First, anyone who thinks that twitter is a substitute for linear conversations like those on facebook wall posts, ilx, etc. is nuts.

Second, twitter is useful because of its limitations, and what you can build off of those. The entire idea that you've got this activity stream that you can zoom into for further content (iPad app actually lets you pinch-zoom user info, and slides in a web browser window) or view as low-bandwidth text is pretty neat.

Also, don't know if anyone noticed or cares, but facebook uses xmpp chat now, so you can use the same programs to connect to google talk or facebook chat.

there are a million substitutes that provide roughly equivalent value as tamagotchis

after about 3 1/2 yrs with one, finally entirely deleted my facebook account and after getting over initial withdrawal (erm, yes) that included a lot of logging back in (mostly to look at picture's of my best high-school friend's new latina girlfriend), i've hardly ever think of it - and have an insane amount of free-time i never actually thought i had in the first place.

it rly doesn't help that there is no "insta-delete" button, but a 2wk ~necessary~ wait period in which they wink and tell you your account will be deleted after then.

but god what a relief it is to not meet somebody and know they'll not be going home tonight to browse through "my life" and judge what music/whatever taste i like. i feel human again or something.

can we get back to talking about the semantic web

there are a million substitutes that provide roughly equivalent value as tamagotchis

― just woke up (lukas), Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:06 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

babies

future of internet isn't just the semantic web

sometimes it's tamagotchis

core facebook/twitter services

status update
social graph
profile
location

now facebook and twitter may not be the leading companies providing these services in ten years but the demand for them isnt going away

twitter's main service is being a top notch celebrity-trolling vehicle

fad-monger

xp

i kinda think that via the emergence of the internet of things that profile and location will be more valuable than status and social - so facebook and twitter could remain at the top of their current markets while being simultaneously rendered somewhat irrelevant

also im know im way behind on this covo but i dont think the future of the net is walled app gardens - i dont think theres much demand for the most basic function of the web to be wholesale taken away

twitter's main service is being a top notch celebrity-trolling vehicle

― ℳℴℯ　❤＼(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:03 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha yes it has allowed us to get closer to our idols than ever before

jordan is engaged to jose cansecos daughter iirc

let us not forget ~solar panels~

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twitter is like seeing thousands of headlines to articles I never want to read

lots of tweets are headlines, maybe follow diff people idk

i don't "get" twitter