future of ~the internet~

twitter's main service is being a top notch celebrity-trolling vehicle

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haha yes it has allowed us to get closer to our idols than ever before

jordan is engaged to jose cansecos daughter iirc

let us not forget ~solar panels~

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twitter is like seeing thousands of headlines to articles I never want to read

lots of tweets are headlines, maybe follow diff people idk

i don't "get" twitter

lol u old

thats maybe the biggest barrier to twitter mass adoption, when you look at it its doesnt necessarily make sense, all the RT # @ nomenclature particularly isnt doing them any favors

i do think their new thing of calling themselves an information network is a pretty good pithy explanation

the advantages twitter seems to have over facebook: asymmetric relationships, simplicity

the word "tweet"

i dont even know wth twitter is but i will find any excuse i can to say "retweet" out loud

twitter is broadcast, facebook is ephemeral but concentrated

yeah that sounds abt right

on the other hand: facebook is a book w/faces in it, twitter is a bird

It's weird, I say random one-off stupid comments on twitter and people who have met me from work will follow me there, but I will say a completely different set of personal things on facebook.

main advantage of twitter over fb = people use it as an actual breaking news source mainly due to the effectiveness of the trends feature (altho obv trends gets swamped with trivial shit too) and that legitimises conversations/rants to actually take place within twitter where stuff is so often first learned.

twitter is more about timely delivery, facebook is more about standing relationships

classic comms theory is engineers trying to be sociologists, like it describes the shape of something but that's it. "this room is square," well yes, i might behave a little differently because it's square but... not really.

i for one think tombot and tracer hand have been otm so far to which i might add, future of the internet is all about 1) abstraction as a method of control and 2) means of profit 3) around ownership of content and that the biggest semantic developments are going to be about describing ownership of ideas. if u really want to affect / fuck with the future of the internet, affect / fuck with copyright law. but make sure u get lots of money first.

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ehhh it just seems like a blatantly pessimistic/misanthropic forecast not really founded on anything

i mean so far the story of the internet re copyright of content is a weakening trend

Ive tried so hard to find twitter useful and engaging and I just dont. FB sucked me in though even when I didnt want it to. I've always been more of a blogger I guess, so there's that. Heck I still use my livejournal.

On aother branch of the future of the internet though:

IPv4 vs IPv6. When's this going to happen? It must be at the point of happening by force now, what with IANA or whoever saying "hey guys we're running out of IP addresses btw" recently.

i use google reader prolly how ppl use twitter but i mean i dont want all this information ppl are telling me twitter is too fast slow the f down imo

I only have like 6 ppl on twitter that I even follow, and i had to un-follow one because without exaggeration he tweeted every 5-15 minutes. My page was just flooded with his random shit.

what do people make of Flipbook? I don't have an iPad so I've never used it but a kind of twitterized rss reader with a slick integrated design.. well it FEELS like the future somehow. then again it's not so very different from the "portalmania" of the late 90s

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/LimitedLiabilityGirl/WebofAngels.jpg

Found on "take shelf" today!! Totally reading this tonight.

JUST FYI the back sez:

The Web links the many worlds of humanity. Most people can only use it to communicate. Some can retrieve and store data, as well as use simple precoded programs. Only a privileged few are able to create their own software, within prescribed limits.

And then there are the Webspinners.

Grailer is Fouth Literate, able to manipulate the Web at will--and use it for purposes unintended and impossible for anyone but the most talented Webspinner. Obviously he cannot be allowed to live.

Condemned to death at the age of nine, Grailer must go underground, hiding his skills, testing his powers--until he is ready to do battle with the Web itself!

Obviously he cannot be allowed to live.

His name was Jon Williams.

This is the future of the internet iirc

xp lolololol Trayce, I thought the exact same thing.

Tracer, I take it you mean Flipboard? The novelty of it has worn off a little for me, but I still like ... flicking through it idly every so often. It doesn't really scale very well as an RSS reader or tweet-link reader – it doesn't weight stories according to popularity in the way that, say, tweetedtimes.com does. But it's certainly a nice casual reading platform, and if they had more linkups with publishers it would be more interesting.

i can't put this into a coherent computer-person post but el tomboto's theory about engagement with apps replacing browsers upthread reminded me of what i miss about the old internet (pre-google), which was the randomness of searches. it was possible to find very tangential connections to one's search criteria even on the second or third page of results in altavista or yahoo, and this enabled what used to be called 'surfing' the internet. nowadays people don't surf, they just plot their paths to and between their destinations: the earlier randomness of catching waves has been lost.

i'd go on but i'd embarrass myself further. over to you lot.

geocities had different "cities" i liked to imagine what they looked like and i wished i lived there.

Google results are noticeably shitter these days, so maybe the glory days of surfing can return.

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those glory days are gone. all the search results are stuffed high with corporate/business entries. which is why tomboto's app argument makes sense. people won't want to search for 'hmv.com' - even by 'i'm feeling lucky' - if there's an app button to press.

the fact that the future of the internet - in the context above - could be defined by saving a couple of clicks concerns me. there wass a flourishing plurality in the last 15 years. but now the old corporate world has caught it up and smothered it.

lol wtf r guys even talking abt, you sound like youre writing some dystopian novel

I don't know if it's really the old corporate world. When it comes to the top search engine results, it's more the crappier end of the new corporate world. Link farms, "answer" sites and such.

i don't do dystopian novels, ice cr?m.

well plz present some rationale for the entire up until this point internet narrative of creative destruction and inovation to turn 180 to a static corporate controlled futurescape - something better than 'people seem to like mobile apps' and 'google results are not the best' - i mean you know corporate interests wouldve loved to control this thing from the beginning - instead we got the unraveling of the music, print, and advertising worlds and the rise of huge new technology companies more interested in facilitating peoples internet experience than controlling the content of it

i feel like this is connected with why the youtube app search results are so shitty

I use Twitter - for following people - and I don't see how it could replace my google reader. Twitter is good for a 5 minute 'what is happening at the moment' distraction but I need GReader to help me look through articles at my leisure.

oppet, I also actually read tweets, but apparently a lot of people mostly just click links (and then read at leisure in other browser tabs)

i have links from weeks ago still floating around

don't forget the vanity/competitive aspect of twitter - getting RT'd, follower count etc. easy to get carried away with this nonsense.

twitter content is much more dynamic than rss cause of retweeting and whatnot

xp http://stackexchange.com/ is a kind of amazing community that really effectively exploits that vanity without ending up like reddit in tone imo

yah thats p much the problem im like hold still xp

like you can subscribe to a blogs rss and youll get all the posts but if you follow the lady who writes the blog on twitter youll get all her posts and links to things she finds interesting that were never blogged abt and retweets from people she follows then you follow some of those people and so on

the internet does not hold still, man

yeah like theres a blog i follow where she blogs her tweet summary lol