― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've said it before I'll say it again, my friends from NB were blown away by Dave the former guitarist in Mean Red Spiders when one of them uttered "He's like the black Jimi Hendrix man."
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ugly Ducklings, on the other hand, I had to go see in concert before I found out they were crackaz.
And Dave Fuczinski (however you spell it), the guitarist from Screaming Headless Torsoes...totally black, to my surprise.
The dude from Sigur Ros? I was certain he was a little girl for at least the first two entire spins of Agaetis Birjun.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
I still can't tell about Tom Morello. What's up with his ethnicity? Anyone know?
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
Some examples of partially-Lebanese folks: Salma Hayek, Shakira, Shannon Elizabeth, Ralph Nader, Dick Dale, nickalicious, Frank Zappa...is it generally only when mixed with other non-white ethnicities (such as Salma Hayek or Shakira, both Lebanese-Latin hybrids of the highest caliber...YOWZA!), or does it apply to the basically-a-honky Lebanese mutts like Nader or myself?
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
also, whats with the dudes from System Of A Down - i've heard the singer's from the Lebanon but also from Albania - clarify?
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
All of System of a Down are Armenian-American. Glendale represent, and all that.
Cher's background is Armenian-American as well, I believe.
Terminator X's mom is German.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
Speaking of which, I was never fooled a bit by Third Bass, because I saw the "Gas Face" video before I heard the song. But I know some radio-lovin' friends who were snookered on that one.
― Neudonym, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
hahahahahahahaha.
― jillian (jillian), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/sn_legacy/addict/AMG_images/artists/P08619.JPG
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
i did not know that
― juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonic, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonic, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jens (brighter), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
now i'm confused. the double-neck guitar sportin' David Fiuczynski that i was occasionally staring at -- from the radio booth, doing a live broadcast from a jazz fest in 2000, where D.F. was perfroming with Victor Bailey's group (and wadda a shite group, except for most of Kenny Garrett's contribution) -- well, that guitar man was anything but black...
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 February 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan I., Thursday, 27 February 2003 07:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Once I played Fishbone for my uncle, and about three-quarters-way through the album (it was Truth and Soul) he saw the album cover and was like "No way! These dudes are black?" and I'm like "Have you been listening? Did you miss that song that went 'when you're a fly in the buttermilk, they chase ya all through the night'!?!"
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago) link
Prediction: This thread will soon turn into a discussion of "what is white anyway?" Which is a good question.
I guess I'm helping it along, aren't I?
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link
― donny dorko, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link
and a white one at that! which the singer is not.i thought the singer for cha cha cohen was a guy, but am only going on the word of my ex who claims it's a girl (never seen a pic).
― Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link
Does it count if you forget someone is black? In that case, Chris Matthews to thread.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 29 January 2010 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Was totally thrown off when I found out Edan was white.
― Evan, Friday, 29 January 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I only knew “Cover of the Rolling Stone”, but I thought until very recently that Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show were black.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
I first thought both Babe Ruth and Amon Duul II were fronted by men singing in Plant/Anderson/Lee register.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
I thought for the longest time that Chuck E. Weiss was black, based on the assumption he was the other guy on this album cover:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51scsNPYGmL.jpg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link
I thought Chuck E. Cheese was a rat, but turns out he was retconned into a mouse.
― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Saturday, 21 May 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link
i really don't understand how people thought Tracy Chapman was a dude? Like ... her voice sounds totally feminine to me, idk. Same with Nina Simone.
I can understand thinking Allison Moyet is a dude if you confuse her with Andy Bell, which ok sure
some of y'all had some weird instincts in terms of what are or aren't women's voices
― sarahell, Saturday, 21 May 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link
Thought Les Claypool was a tall weasel. Turns out he's just a human man.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 21 May 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link
Had always assumed Alicia Bridges of I Love the Nightlife fame was black until I googled the video the other day.
― Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 21 May 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link
Jónsi Birgisson is one I thought was female on first hearing.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:10 (one year ago) link
Pre-internet, I had a song on tape by Chunky, Novi and Ernie with a completely androgynous lead vocal. The singer being named "Chunky" didn't provide a lot of guidance either.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4JQ37KsdAs
I would have seen this video in 1984, and apparently I thought it was more likely that a man would perform in a dress (and, um, have breasts) than that a woman would be "allowed" to sing a song about another woman being her "gal".
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 21 May 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link
Keith Jarrett tells a great story of how Ornette Coleman says to him "you just have to be black" and Jarrett replies, "I'm working on it."
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Saturday, 21 May 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link
I used to think Nellee Hooper was a woman.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
I thought for the longest time that Sandy Denny's parts in "Battle of Evermore" were a second Plant track, and I still have a bit of difficulty not hearing it that way.
― jmm, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
Also like many people, I assumed Nick Gilder was a woman when listening to "Hot Child in the City".
― MarkoP, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
For many years, I thought Irene Cara was white, and while posting this I figured out I've been wrong for many years further in assuming she was black - she's biracial!
― Vinnie, Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
Haha I think I heard it that way until I read otherwise at 13 or so. It was a little disappointing; I'd been really impressed by how he could just flip into such a pure tone in that register. Conversely, my friend asked "who's the babe?" when Peter Hamill switched to his pure falsetto voice on "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (ironically, first on the line "I am a lonely man").
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
lol Sund4r ...
xp re kd lang : definitely heteronormativity probably plays a major role in some of this for when we were kids and mis-gendering based on lyrics
― sarahell, Saturday, 21 May 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
None of my friends believe me that “goodbye horses” was sung by a woman.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 22 May 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link
Conversely, my friend asked "who's the babe?" when Peter Hamill switched to his pure falsetto voice on "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (ironically, first on the line "I am a lonely man").
this part always confounds me too, his falsetto never sounds that uh...pure elsewhere
― frogbs, Sunday, 22 May 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link
Peter Hamill switched to his pure falsetto voice
My friend didn't believe that Hammill was doing the high background vocals on "Hemlock".
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 May 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link
Keith Jarrett tells a great story of how Ornette Coleman says to him "you just have to be black" and Jarrett replies, "I'm working on it."― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Saturday, May 21, 2022 8:43 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Saturday, May 21, 2022 8:43 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
holy shit. i have seen many pictures of keith jarrett for many years and STILL thought he was black. i am in serious shock.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 22 May 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
I always thought the lead singer on the We Five version of "You Were On My Mind" was a man...but it was Beverly Bivens.
I still hear her voice on that song as "male" somehow.
― gjoon1, Sunday, 22 May 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link
Been listening a lot to an album by an artist with what seems like a normal woman’s first and last name. Just found out it’s a trio of dudes. The music is still excellent but can we stop doing this?— clipping. (@clppng) May 22, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 22 May 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link
That woman’s name: Zeze Topp
― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Sunday, 22 May 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
Alice Cooper
― Siegbran, Sunday, 22 May 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link