Why on earth are most of Killdozer's cd's now out of print???

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can we use this thread to talk abt the rumored scratch acid reunion tour? it seems like it's definitely happening, from what I hear.. first heard about it last year sometime. dunno.

killdozer are pretty good. this kid i work with--they're his favorite band, basically. so we listen to them. what a funny voice that guy has!! good stuff, and there was a LOT of it! picture discs and junk. for me, it's definitely in the category of "don't need it all." but it's pretty fun stuff all around.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 29 January 2006 03:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Was there some kind of a falling out that I missed?

-- xgurggleglgllg (lamewa...), January 28th, 2006 8:36 PM. (xgurggleglgllg)

you're kidding right?

|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Sunday, 29 January 2006 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, yeah. 'Falling out' = understatement.

Touch and Go's side of it

The band's side of it (towards the end)

The relevant court decision

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link

EVANS, Circuit Judge. Paul L. Walthal, Gibson J. Haynes, and Jeffrey S. Coffey are the Butthole Surfers. For the unenlightened, that's a musical group.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Footnote 1 A sampling of the Butthole Surfers' recordings include: "Hurdy Gurdy Man"; "Lady Sniff"; "John E. Smoke"; "The Annoying Song"; "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave"; "Goofy's Concern"; and "Chewin' George Lucas' Chocolate."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I was actually hoping that when posting this question it would bring up Scratch Acid, I have been wondering about this reuniun myself!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link

to the gent who posted "i'm not lisa": can you post the entire for ladies only album? you would be a god to do so.

elgin again (golf and games), Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:11 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't have to act as if the whole T&G/ Butthole Surfers thing is common knowledge. I'm not the biggest Butthole Surfer fan in the world. And from all the stuff I read about them, I never heard a THING about them and T&G. Maybe because it was overshadowed by the Necros thing, but it's news to me......

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't have to act as if the whole T&G/ Butthole Surfers thing is common knowledge.

I appreciate there's a first time for everyone to learn something and all. Still, call me surprised that you had not heard at least the basics of the situation in talk about the band -- it IS pretty common knowledge about folks who are aware of the group in my experience.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess I can officially be considered out of the loop! Well to be quite honest it doesn't seem too surprising for somebody to have a problem with Corey Rusk! Maybe I heard a little something about it, but amongst all the other stuff you hear about Corey Rusk it probably just went out the other ear!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link

If Tesco Vee were still in charge..... hmmmm.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.ncra.ca/CRTC/complaints/12C-75_CRTC_Reply.html

In your response, you quote from a decision made by the CRTC regarding a rap song entitled, "Hamburger Martyr", by the group Killdozer that was aired on CHSR-FM in Fredericton. The Commission reviews each complaint received individually, having regard to the specific fact secenario in each case. In that instance, the Commission also determined that the broadcast did not breach the Act or the Regs. The lyrics in question, however, were broadcast at 10:15 p.m., a time which the Commission considered appropriate in the circumstances.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Sunday, 29 January 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Those darned foul-mouthed rap groups!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 January 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Rap music that deals with important issues? I didn't know that existed........

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you an idiot or are you feebly joking?

adam (adam), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I wqas going to post some Killdozer lyrics here, got as far as typing them out (from memory), read them back and thought...nah.

Anyway, Little Baby Buntin' - classic!
For Ladies Only - classic!
God Hears Pleas Of The Innocent - a bit pointless by that time, apart from "The Nobbies" and "Paul Doesn't Understand Jazz".

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

......a feebly joking idiot, anyone could tell. right? right?..........forget it.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

grrr

elgin again (golf and games), Monday, 30 January 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link

But I was also unaware that "bling bling" was such an important issue. Okay! So sue me!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

LUPUS TOOK THE LIFE OF FLANNERY O'CONNOR!!!!
SHE WROTE MANY BOOKS BEFORE DEATH CAME UPON 'ER!!!!!

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link

you don't say.........

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Who catches Lupus nowadays? I'm not really joking, that word "Lupus", always sounded weird to me......

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, fell into the stupid trap that has shit to do with Killdozer!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic in small doses. Best song - 'King of Sex'. Best cover - 'Nasty'.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2006 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a friend who was (and still is) a photographer. He liked taking pictures of bands but not really listening to them. This meant that he was often painfully ignorant of the bands he was shooting.

This wasn't really a job handicap because most bands had zero desire to do anything when having their pictures taken other than stopping having their pictures taken. This meant that small talk was limited. However, photographers are often paired with writers and you know how we love to talk shop.

He would often find himself in conversations about bands that he had zero idea about. None whatsoever. So he devised two pat answers that he said were useful in nearly all of the discussions he wound up in:

"I like their earlier stuff better."

and

"They remind me of Killdozer."

This thread reminded me of this and it made me smile, so thanks.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe I'll gladly accept that thank you, to make up for looking like an idiot for not knowing about that Butthole Surfers thing.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Best cover - "Unbelievable"

Best song is impossible to pick. That's like asking me to pick one Happy Flowers song.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if I've ever laughed quite as hard as the first time I heard "Lupus" - I'd been really, really into Little Baby Buntin' & was super-psyched to hear the new one, and then BANG, this song that just acclerates everything - by the end it's not even "many good books," it's just "she WROOOOTE some BOOOOOKS/and then DEATH was upon her!"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Man Vs. Nature
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30XFG6GT8IIE808FR029MNGX8

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

more ysis please. i don't have any of this shit anymore.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Hamburger Martyr
http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2RE49EBK3CUD23KM473H16B3QQ

Richard
"Let me tell you - that sort of thing really PISSES ME OFF!!"
http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2JQZLRIZOOXEM3JEVWA6ULP4JL

SLSK is ocasionally useful for Killdozer stuff (though prob not as good as you'd expect)

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I used Killdozer as an excuse to get a friend to drive me from Ann Arbor to Chicago, because I had gotten free tickets to a Babes in Toyland show there and Killdozer was opening.
Neither of us had any idea who they were, but were desperately trying to out-cool each other by pretending.

js (honestengine), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the ysi's!!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, I do have one YSI request -- never have heard the cover of "Unbelievable," so might someone have it? Any other B-sides or things that never ended up on the CDs could be fun too!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link

in madison the question is 'killdozer or pachinko'
the answer is 'both, motherfucker'

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank ya Mike!

I see this page is of interest:

http://www.geocities.com/renaldo_larue/killdozer/

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of those covers I hadn't heard of must surely be perfect. "Conquistador!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link

The Procol Harum song?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The very same.

Order page for the reissue of The Last Waltz album (on CD, at least -- separate page has the vinyl run)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Conquistador!
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FXSR03S138AY3R79NYF7YJNLF

I haven't heard the AC/DC cover (or the original, I don't think) or "Disco Inferno", but I'd like to find those.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It's like Christmas! :-) Hmm, do you have the Hair medley around?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot how hilarious the liner notes were for Uncompromising...

---

"Final Market"

This song tells the inspiring story of a youth, exploited by his employer (1), a ruthless newspaper distributor. Finally, the Peoples' Revolution arrives (2), and the lad justifiably kills his boss.

(1) Weil, Simone. Oppression and Liberty. Amherst: University of Massachusetts, 1973.

(2) Lunn, Arnold Henry Moore. The Science of World Revolution. London: Sheed and Ward, 1938.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

So is the Touch & Go stuff really out of print or not? I should get more Killdozer, I only have Snakeboy/Intellectuals are the Shoeshine Boys..

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Looks like they are indeed out of print. Touch and Go's page on them is pretty basic while Amazon shows most of them being 'unavailable' or ridiculously priced.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link

......which is basically in a nutshell, what I've mentioned from the start.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Saw them in Philly at Abe's Steaks after their first album. "Man O' Meat" was the high water mark. Good pig call: "Ah-huh-huh-hah-huh-haw" which did ZZ Top proud. The other points which made impressions, Gerald's sober but striking stage presence and a continuous endorsement of "Wis-kon-sin's" Huber Beer. Much better live band than the Philly fillers which shared the bill with them.

George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I had the great priviledge of booking Killdozer in 1994 and playing washboard with them on a Black Oak Arkansas' HOT N Nasty.

I was at their last chicago gig in 1996(97?) at the empty bottle. Mike told me "Everyone comes up to us on this tour and asks why we're quitting. and we tell them if all the shows were like this, we would keep playing. But the only way to do that is to tell them it's our last show!"

At last report, he's lawyering in NYC. I would pay to see him before a jury.
"Your honor, my asshole could make a better case than the Prosecution!"

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn, that's amazing. I'll keep that mind should the need arise. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

it wasn't his dad who shot himself. It was an old acquaint-ance, ya goddamned dunce. His dad got blown up in an explosion in a grain elevator in Decatur. But he's still a sexual beast - with a face like chewed bubble gum.

Fuck - they had great lyrics ...

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

re-releasing the Juvenile Truth album as a 7"

This begs a question or two.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't say "his dad," I said "a dad." Learn to read, fucktard.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Was it Lyle Presslar who bacame a lawyer, or was it Tom Lyle? Something tells me it was Tom Lyle.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't realize there was a Lyle Presler interview! How stupid, the answer right in front of my face!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck - they had great lyrics ..

esp. because every song has the line "let me tell you" in it!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, do you have the Hair medley around?
Got it!
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DDV6ZPSABUKL1PY4M3TQSSAO9

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, you wonderful man. :-D

Now for the rest of those rarities, somehow. I AM ON THE MISSION.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

HOW ABOUT A WHOLE ALBUM!?!?! :-) :-) :-)

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean......if you want to be....the wonderfullest of wonderful men. :-)

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I really didn't mean for that to sound as gay as it did........I should probably just drop it.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Whole albums take a long time to upload on yousendit!

Maybe try to find me on slsk (sbsweaty).

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay. Just one thing. How do I get to slsk(soulseek?)? If you could see me in person right now you could read the word "NEWBIE" in big letters across my forhead!I appreciate it though!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh boy, okay... How about God Hears the Pleas of the Innocent?
http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0T5NZJA2F758J1L2AIQA4WTMGE

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

>Three guesses, guys.<

ha ha I just thought their records after *Snakeboy* weren't as good as *Snakeboy*!

Anyway, by some crazy coincidence, I just noticed this this morning (in Tony Jasper's and Derek Oliver's *The International Encyclopedia of Hard Rock and Heavy Metal*:

>Killdozer (France)

Despite being French, this band sing only in English. Their music is subdued and the LP is only worth buying if it is cheap.

*Killdozer* (CBS) 1980

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you very much Mike! You are a wonderful........er, dude.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

(I also don't think they were ever my "fave example of shit music," and I never much cared where Touch & Go was located -- hell, I moved away from Detroit not long after!) Any way, Killdozer fans should REALLY check out this Lansing band Red Swan. I'm not kidding.) xp

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

There was also a pretty-good New York band called Killdozer who changed their name to Sharkey's Machine after finding out about the Madison band.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link

17 tracks from various singles
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SL7K7CS9AWGB3LXSRZR1RLSWC

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Friday, 3 February 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

re: Killdozer (France)

They must have played with Bad Brains a lot:

http://www.divinerites.com/b_houll.htm

bendy (bendy), Friday, 3 February 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Learn to read, fucktard.

I'm hearing this phrase in michael gerald's gruff, coarse voice, just before some steamroller sludge-rock riff in some insanely tricky time signature kicks in.

Killdozer were the best, and I feel privileged to have seen them. The twofer CD w/"12 point buck" and "Little baby bunting" is the best, though I'm a big big phan of "uncompromising war on art under the dictatorship of the proletariat", coz they play it so damn str8-faced.

ENTER THE 49 GATES OF UNCLEANLINESS.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 3 February 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I can't find the thread now, but previously someone w3as looking for a Killdozer t-shirt. *plug* I'm selling one on ebay now here

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i got "12 point buckk" yesterday. found it at mercer st. books, of all unlikely places.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 9 June 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Hobson-Gerald-Hobson reunion!

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
Back in print!
(but stay away from Amazon)

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 24 September 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

if you need an attorney...

http://www.akingump.com/en/lawyers-advisors/michael-gerald.html

nostormo, Saturday, 16 March 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

"...in this case, clearly, the pig was not cool."

The Jacket Bastard (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 17 March 2013 05:46 (eleven years ago) link


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