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yes you need to spend at least £1500 to get a mediocre card rising to £1850 for a slightly less mediocre card

apple really need to sort this shit out :(

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

could the 15" handle bejewelled on facebook tho

pizzlemank (cozen), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of page outs probably

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally, after all this time of documents not saving themselves, Apple comes to the rescue in 2011 with Auto Save. Where would we be without Steve Jobs?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

if they can make it so that the concept of saving becomes obsolete then that will be a huge and long overdue achievement

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm happy about that but a little confused. I like how it works when I use google docs, but I never use google docs for important work. With real work, I'm constantly saving out different versions and "revert to saved" is pretty essential. I guess if it's autosaving you just have to look at the clock and "revert to 3:30 version" or something. I also worry about storage. Files that are several hundred megs, several gigs, can we handle multiple versions of everything?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

Scroll down to 'Versions'

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm, Mail 5 better give me my folders as a sidebar or there's going to be trouble.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

So Airdrop isn't exactly the Dropbox killer everyone's been waiting for?

Generally, Apple is a pretty smart company. This is just halo-effect smartness...they're even changing the scrolling to match iPhone/iPad. People like my mother and step-father, longtime PC users. Buy an iPad because it's a consumer device. They love it. Then they wonder, are the computers like this? And now they will be.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah. It's always been pretty clear that Apple would pull its iOS features across to the Macs in some form (be daft not to, frankly). iOS is in no conceivable way perfect but it's very easy to learn and use without manuals etc.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh and the first release of Lion will be hilariously buggy. Can't wait for the fallout.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

We have told you there's an apple hate thread, right?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ahahahaha. I'm probably not expressing how pleased I am that OS X is adopting some sensible UI conventions and (hopefully) gutting out that god-awful finder.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

dan I'd be way happier with the concept of snapshots. even if it amounts to the same thing as saving. the prospect that you could lose 2hrs of work because you got a power cut or forgot a magic keystroke should just. not. ever. happen. but yeah I want to know more details.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

(aa here) yeah I've got to say that after looking into how autosave and versions actually work I'm quite impressed. It makes perfect sense to take the whole time machine design principle and apply it to everything that requires saving.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

(of course the worst thing about it is that Microsoft won't support it until Office 2017)

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

idk

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

also I can foresee 50 years now, authors will release 'track changes' version of their epic books, so you can see the progress starting from the genesis

Neu! romancer (dayo), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yr resolution independence is in there ^ stet btw

ice cr?m, Friday, 25 February 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yah I saw that, pretty dope

I was watching one of my students play smurfs farmville or w/e on her iphone4 and it was amazing how detailed the 1mm high smurf was

Neu! romancer (dayo), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

Especially when working off a server. Or will this just not work when working off a server?

dan selzer, Friday, 25 February 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd hope the auto save thingo would be designed well enough (at file system level) that one corrupted file doesn't kill every revision.

Where do you all stand on the new backwards scrolling mechanic? I think it's brilliant.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

so I had to restore my iPhone and iPad and redownload a bunch of apps, and it charged me again for a bunch of them. it ended up being like $100+ since I redownloaded both 1password and Logmein to both devices plus a bunch of other apps, so I'm obviously going to have to contest the charges with Apple. has anyone ever had to deal with this?

The Land Berore Time (jamescobo), Friday, 25 February 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Depending on the pricing, thunderbolt portable HDs could be a huge fucking deal for me. I was on a shoot the other day that had hours of downtime because we were using a USB HD.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 25 February 2011 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

At least use FW, man!

mh, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I know, right? No one had the right cables (I was not in charge here), and the eSata drive wouldn't work for whatever reason.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I had the same thing happen with apps on my phone last year when I had to do a restore, but since I only paid for 2 apps it wasn't much money, and I didn't bother contesting it. But yeah, it can happen

akm, Friday, 25 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

That's pretty bad. Why has a bigger deal not been made of it?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

(in the press, I mean)

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Because it can't happen. If you use the same account to repurchase the apps you won't be charged. (it says you will purchase it again, but you don't get charged).

The only way you'd actually get charged again would be by using a different iTunes account second time round.

stet, Saturday, 26 February 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

that isn't true, I was charged twice. but, they might have fixed this since.

akm, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

It's been like this since app store launched. Did you use two different country stores? Compare the email receipts for both, if the email addresses and stores match then you've gotta big story.

stet, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

(also getting the cash back if it's the same a/c should be pretty straightforward -- click the "report a problem" link in the receipt and give them both order numbers (in the email subject line). Had to do the begging act that way with a film I deleted and they sorted it in a day, even though you're not allowed redl films/music)

stet, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

You're not allowed to redownload films/music that you've already paid for? Really? For god's sake why?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

US store, same account I've been using for years, and I still have the original iTunes receipts for most of them. all of the ones which I don't have receipts for show purchase dates from hell of earlier like this:

http://i.imgur.com/XIsYT.png

(the second bill for this came on 2/19)

the day it happened, I emailed Apple with all of this (the only contact option they offer) along w/ receipt dates, order numbers, everything; I got a confirmation email that they had received it and that I should expect a response within 24 hours but haven't heard anything else. obviously these things can take time and the weekend and God and The Bible and so on, but this is still kind of worrying since I've been redownloading apps since forever and never had this happen before.

The Land Berore Time (jamescobo), Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Wouldn't bother with email -- use the customer support form. Yu get there from the "report problem" link in the receipts, and also from the "support" link inside the store on desktop iTunes. They usually get back v. quick.

AA: Reason I heard was they didn't want ppl authorising their friend's computers and redownloading everything, but sounds spurious to me. I am not a Record Company Exec, tho.

stet, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

well i am and i can confirm we demanded this feature out of pure bitterness and spite, fuck yall 'computer users'!

ice cr?m, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

AA: Reason I heard was they didn't want ppl authorising their friend's computers and redownloading everything, but sounds spurious to me. I am not a Record Company Exec, tho.

― stet, Sunday, 27 February 2011 11:54 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Now that there's no DRM I suppose it's reasonable to expect users to manage their own backups. Still, shithouse.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 27 February 2011 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never had a problem redownloading apps in fact when pp took my old iPhone ( he uses it as an iPod touch only on wifi so no ATT charges) all my existing apps worked fine and the ones I had deleted he could redownload for free also the ones I had downloaded onto my new phone. Not sure he ever tried to download a new one for just his phone.
I've had problems with audiobooks though. My comp at work syncs podcasts and audiobooks and my home one everything else but of course I had synced at home with 'sync audiobooks' on and it wiped all my audiobooks from my iPhone. I had to pay for those again. Sucky.

calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Sunday, 27 February 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12570045

$9bn on shit

Romford Spring (DG), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Funny how this thread and I HATE APPLe have basically become the same thread.

Super Cub, Monday, 28 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

It didn't have to be.

Talk about complaints in the HATE thread.

Talk about lust-worthy new products and ridiculous rumors here.

Easy!

dan selzer, Monday, 28 February 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

heard back from customer service and they're claiming they don't have any record of the order #s on the receipts I received from them WTF

The Land Berore Time (jamescobo), Monday, 28 February 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah good luck getting a refund from apple. fuckers.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Monday, 28 February 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

they are driving you to piracy, clearly

ice cr?m, Monday, 28 February 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^ this x 3454386592760527346793563924758

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 28 February 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

meaningful graphs are the best

http://www.blogcdn.com//media/2011/02/t-mo-iphone4-2282011.jpg

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

slow | | | | | | | | fast

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

oh come on ATT could at least be a guinea pig or something

calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link


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