Sarah Silverman: Funny or not? Hot or not?

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Speaking of recycling the same jokes over and over, in the past week I've read about half a dozen prominent new assessments or profiles of Sarah Silverman, and they've all been exactly the same. And three were in Slate!

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But, if this is the same Bonnie McFarlane (and I think it is), then it is amazing what a little hair dye can do.

http://www.vidiot.com/UPN/images/SS/SSPub202s.jpg

xpost: isn't anybody weirded out by the sexism of jewess or negress?

― She looks familiar, Monday, 14 November 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

That's what was refreshing about the Ebert review; he hardly talked about the jokes at all and basically focused on how it wasn't really a very good MOVIE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Re the sexism of those terms, it's in the same category as poetess or aviatrix or editrix, which is to say mostly just old-fashioned. (Although it's interesting to me that actress and dominatrix don't seem to have fallen out of favor -- why?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Ebert was right on. The jokes were fine, but the construction of the movie was just awful. The editing was especially terrible.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Bonnie Mcfarland is hot (and funny):

surely you are from the British Isles, then?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost: isn't anybody weirded out by the sexism of jewess or negress?

Sexism? It's merely concision.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

without reading any of this thread,
1.funny!
2.hot!

― petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I feel like these days "actress" is a little vexed -- among people in the industry themselves, you'll hear women call themselves actors quite a bit. Though there's still kind of a claim wrapped into it, a claim of seriousness -- like, "I am an artist, not some fluffy made-up starlet."

With "dominatrix" I think it's just that the sex matters more explicitly!

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder what her Halloween costume was.

I read that it was sexy hitler - funny and hot!

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've heard women use "actor," too. I just noticed that it hadn't quite caught on.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The whole actor/actress thing amuses me 'cause in French, feminists have tried to do exactly the opposite in one sense. The word écrivain, a msculine noune, for example, is the word for writer and starting in the 70's or 80's certain French feminists arguing that they should be able to call themselves écrivaines, a freshly coined female noun.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

http://media.hamncheez.com/pictures/SarahSilverman.jpg

― Acid house girls and flowers (fandango), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, look at the hair on that arm!

― Hairy Arms, Hairy Arms, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

That's certainly the first thing I noticed.

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot about Jewess Jeans. Funny, disco-dancing stuff.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Re the sexism of those terms, it's in the same category as poetess or aviatrix or editrix, which is to say mostly just old-fashioned.

The modern word "sexism" doesn't really get at what's unsettling about Jewess/Negress, which has more to do with racism, alterity, and the droit de seigneur. The linguistic sexism is trivial; the loaded element is its implied subhuman sexualization of the object - as jaymc notes, it places her in a different species altogether (the oh-so-asking-for-it female counterpart of the leering, hooknosed Ashkenazi or the robust and rapacious Negro punished with death for daring to look a white woman in the eye.)

Let's ask JP Sartre! "There is in the words 'a beautiful Jewess' a very special sexual signification, one quite different from that contained in the words 'beautiful Rumanian,' 'beautiful Greek,' or 'beautiful American,' for example. This phrase carries an aura of rape and massacre..."

(Sarah Silverman is of course funny and fine. A little wax works wonders.)

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Sourpuss, I apologize for snappishly grouping you in with fucktards. No excuse.

I do think Lenny Bruce became MUCH less funny once weighed down with legal matters and smack, but arrests aside there was more derring-do in his approach than SS's, which seem on the 'meta' side (again, I haven't seen more than a few minutes of her).

On the non-hot side, one more "interesting but not-so-funny" view (he DOES think she challenges liberals, like Bruce):

http://www.chicagoreader.com/movies/archives/2005/1105/051111.html

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to mention that review earlier but I guess I forgot. I like that he twists Kehr's Animal House critique.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

“When God gives you AIDS, make lemonAIDS,” she urges the audience at one point. It’s a clever, writerly line

.......uhh

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Besides, a woman that points to her ass this much in public has me believing she's believing she's hotter than she really is, despite her "I'm not hot" cutesy routine.

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/interviews/images/sarah/sarahbutt.jpg

― Sarah Silverman Must Die, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

you must have a lot of time* on your hands to worry about what sarah silverman believes about herself, and to care

*a lot of time, and not a lot of other-person's-ass

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

the pointing at her ass thing has to end. almost as unoriginal as a girl doing the about-to-lick-the-female-next-to-her pose for a picture. yawn.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

lenny bruce = hotter than sarah silverman

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

At least she doesn't (?) do it on stage, as Lenny didn't shoot up there.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/85/2126/640/jews.jpg

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

you must have a lot of time* on your hands to worry about what sarah silverman believes about herself, and to care

*a lot of time, and not a lot of other-person's-ass

Oh yes, incessant worrying. It took me weeks just to formulate my own opinion of her, let alone make assumptions about her own opinion of herself. Believe me, it is very time-consuming. Fortunately for me, my schedule is not bogged down with other-person's-ass.

― Sarah Silverman Must Die, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...

She was pretty damn good on the Indie Spirit Awards, esp "I went to Brokeback Mountain with my boyfriend, and he closed his eyes during the gay sex scene. He's not homophobic; it's the only way he can come."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree. She did a reputable job.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...

the movie was pretty good - not funny all the way through but definitely a lot of jawdroppers and great delivery. I've been trying to think of other white comedians with such a preponderance of race-based material and I'm comin up short, she's kind of unique in that regard. Race is pretty much something no white comedians EVER address, certainly not as sharply and brazenly as she does.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

you just think she's hot

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Just in passing, she seems quite hot. I still haven't seen the movie though, hard to say what she's like in motion. Although she did have a "wife of..." part in... oh, right School of Rock. Took a bit of the shine off for me.

― pleased to mitya (mitya), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

people who think she's superhot need to get out more.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously - ally way otm about her looking like melissa rivers.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Women complaining about men finding other women attractive need to get out more.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I complain to myself that I find myself attractive. This has led to fisticuffs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

eww

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Tsk, always seeking the prurient interpretation!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think she's hot, whatever that means (but I'm in total love with close-together eyes, so... whatever). But superhot? Perhaps being funny increases her hotness quotient or something. Reading this entire thread, though, I have to note how astonishing it is how a few people finding Sarah Silverman "hot" makes a few other people very, very angry. Almost defensively so. I mean, WTF?

One thing: her bit in The Aristocrats was not only funny, it was truly disturbing (in a good way, I think, but I'm not entirely sure of that). I believe that what she's brought up front and centre -- alongside the aforementioned white-chick-making-racist-jokes shtick -- is the relatively unexplored humour of post-traumatic stress, the thousand yard standup. She's not alone in this, but ever since the likes of Stephen King articulated it, and Sam Raimi visualised it, the idea of screaming while laughing (while puking, while dissociating?) has gathered a certain amount of force. Personally -- and this is entirely opinion, of course -- I love that SS does this with a (distractingly superficial) sass and perkiness. More fucking power to whatever she's trying to do, ha ha.

(She needs to write more jokes, though.)

― David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i like her. Jesus is Magic was funny but the musical sequences were horrible.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the movie was disappointing if you heard any of that material elsewhere already.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Greatest person evah.

― Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish her older sister got more attention tho.

she was the voice of:

http://www.sassman.com/katz/scans/laura-hands.jpg

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

tina fey is pretty lame, but lets give her show a chance before totally condemning. (and she's not THAT cute, oh nerdboys). SS is a little too self-satisfied to be hilarious, but she's good for a "naughty" laff now and then. I can see the appeal physically, but the Kimmel taint is strong.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Plz not to utter the words "Kimmel taint" ever ever again k thx bye.

She's hot, but I'll have to see Jesus Is Magic before I decide about the funny.

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

the whole "hot or not" part of this thread is teh lame

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

My crush is subsiding even as I watch the first episode of her comedy central show.

― honey with ice pants (kenan), Friday, 2 February 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

But the other actors have potential. This character is SO unlikable, though.

― honey with ice pants (kenan), Friday, 2 February 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

there's this great thing with her in the times in which after reading an AO Scott review it starts to sink in that she might not be that smart, but she isn't sure what else to do with her life at this point, so she decides to specialize in fart jokes

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 February 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

except they wrote it out of order

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 February 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, there's something here, interesting premise, some great jokes written for other people. ("I think the Holocaust was totally uncalled for.") But then Sarah overdoes the little girl thing, and TOTALLY overdoes the gross.

― honey with ice pants (kenan), Friday, 2 February 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

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