New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Bloody hell, it works on the iPhone too.

Wait, what?

right, so should I get an iPhone today, because my 3G is so slow and unstable that I am going to lose my mind. I read the rumors about iPhone5, and I don't know what to do.

The 4's pretty good. The 5 will most likely be out in June/July but honestly it'll probably just be a speed bump.

What makes you say that?

I read a rumor today saying the 5 might be delayed until september. The speed bump is maybe important to me, because my 3G is so freaking slow now. Like half of the apps out there don't even run on the phone. They are unworkably slow or crash.

Maybe get a 4 on an 18 month contract, if that's available? That way when it runs out you'll probably be back more in sync with the release cycle.

Apple rumours are ridiculous, safe to ignore 99% of them. Apple's iphone cycle is June/July.

Alba: There'll be a new enticing factor but it's unlikely (obv I don't know for sure) that there'll be a new design until next year. It's selling well, many people have two-year contracts and public attention's on the new ipad.

Bloody hell, it works on the iPhone too.

Up = right, down = left, swipe-wise. On the home screens. Bleeple bloop.

Alba: There'll be a new enticing factor but it's unlikely (obv I don't know for sure) that there'll be a new design until next year. It's selling well, many people have two-year contracts and public attention's on the new ipad.

Agreed. If there will be any change to the iPhone this year, it'll probably only be a change to the A5 processor. Design/features won't change much (if at all)

How do you mean, Tracer? Up is up!

dude I know at foxconn is waiting specifically till next release to get an iphone.
this could mean absolutely nothing because he also waited till last xmas to get a PSP.

Oh, I've been a fool. It was only working because I was on the first home screen, where I could have just swiped left to the search box anyway. Sorry guys. Still - it SHOULD do that. Fantasy over.

Alba: There'll be a new enticing factor but it's unlikely (obv I don't know for sure) that there'll be a new design until next year. It's selling well, many people have two-year contracts and public attention's on the new iPad

That's all fine, except ... you could have said exactly the same last year. More so, in fact, as the iPad really was a new thing then.

If he works at Foxconn he's probably a massive geek so.

When I swipe up on my iphone home screen nothing happens. Spotlight is left all the way + 1.

btw chasing Apple rumours is exactly like looking up medical conditions, it's all inappropriate/misleading and before you know it the next ipod is a 3D hologram due in mid-April and you have 12 types of cancer.

i thought steve only had one type?

Indeed, although these days in the month or so before release you often get pretty solid leaks these days.

Xpost

iPancreatic

Sorry, "solid leaks" sounds like some grim cancer symptom.

That's all fine, except ... you could have said exactly the same last year. More so, in fact, as the iPad really was a new thing then.

― Alba, Saturday, 5 March 2011 11:49 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

True. Yesterday Gruber pointed out that Apple wasn't really sure what the ipad was for in its first year (same with the iphone to an extent; remember it didn't even have an app store in the first year). I think that's why this year's revision is so enormous.

I still think the iphone 5 will be a reasonable jump from the iphone 4, but in the same way the 3GS was a jump from the 3G, i.e. processing bumps but not LTE or a massive case revamp or anything. I'm guessing like everyone else but I'm basing it on past form. Also, the iphone 4 is really really fantastic in a way that the 3G wasn't.

xp and yeah, leaks.

Huh. Now it seems both up and down = left. How embarrassing!

I should elaborate on that. Okay, the iphone 3G was always a sluggish piece of crap. On v2 of the OS it was all right, but there were memory leak issues with the keyboard, crashes galore, you couldn't play music and do anything else at the same time etc etc. It just wasn't terribly responsive or reliable. The iphone 4 is by contrast an incredibly zippy and fluid piece of kit.

I'm sure iOS 5 will turn the iphone 4 upside down with proper multitasking or some such but right now it's fine.

strange how the iphone 1 (now forgotten, RIP) was such a leap fwd in many respects yet still so backwards in many others (no C&P lol)

^ solitary posts that effortlessly summarise the spirit of apple

I should elaborate on that. Okay, the iphone 3G was always a sluggish piece of crap. On v2 of the OS it was all right, but there were memory leak issues with the keyboard, crashes galore, you couldn't play music and do anything else at the same time etc etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

still the only iphone I ever owned. and I did trav to amerikeh to pick it up it's true

should'nt have bought the desire I have now (it's shit) tbh. roll on iphone 5

android sucks linux' balls

True. Yesterday Gruber pointed out that Apple wasn't really sure what the ipad was for in its first year (same with the iphone to an extent; remember it didn't even have an app store in the first year). I think that's why this year's revision is so enormous.

How does Apple's great epiphany translate into a new level of consumer interest? Will people will be rushing to the stores, enticed by the prospect of using the front-facing camera and A5 chip to arse around in GarageBand and make SexyTime with their girlfriend?

Nah it's more that last year the ipad was a sort of a thing of some sort that sort of did sort of word processing and sort of a bit of sort of email and sort of browsing, whereas this year they had a showreel of people doing ipaddy things with it. I must admit I walked away from last year's launch wondering what all the fuss was about, but this week the ipad actually looked like a genuinely worthwhile proposition.

Don't really see the big difference with iPad 2, but I like my iPad 1 just fine. Word processing is ... not something I've really thought of doing on it though.

I mean, I'd like a speed bump, sure.

Also (and this is weird, I can't adequately put it into words, bear with me) the first ipad was chunky and heavy and not terribly elegant imo. In pics and videos, and then in person, it just looked and felt awkward and prototypey. This year's already looks like an Apple product, and despite the similar weight I reckon it'll feel that way too.

xp ah, there you go, that's the point I was making. Apple launched iwork with the ipad as if to say 'we think this is what people might do with it' because they really weren't sure where the ipad was going to go.

Sorry, I'm really not explaining myself terribly well.

i find that a big key to performance on an iphone is how much free space it has, even when mine had about 5 GB left it was getting slow, I deleted some stuff and now it has like 10 GB left and it's running faster

smh @ apple for not including more ram

Must be swap space. My 4's down to ~1.5 Gb of free space and apps have started to crash all over the place.

Don't think Pages et al were ever a big sell, really. Everyone knew it was the third-party developers who would really exploit its capabilities.

Though having said that, I probably spend more than half my time on it in Safari.

Interesting. I've heard people who got it at launch and lost interest have recently gone back to it, but I don't know what they're doing with it. I presume most just keep it by the sofa when they're watching telly and just poke at it when they're bored.

Bah, version 1 works great, typing this on one right now.

and I still don't know what to do...

Maybe I'll just get the 4, because I am having a hard time living with my 3G.

If you reckon you can wait three months, wait three months.

I'm not a great believer in the psychological benefits of "waiting fr the right moment". If your 3G is driving you demented, just buy the 4.

thanks for the advice. Good advice all around.

when I got the 4 after a couple of years with the 3G I honestly couldn't believe how much of a jump it was. Really fulfilled the promise of a pocket computer. It's probably my primary browsing/emailing/consuming computer now fwiw.

Am waiting for the 5 to upgrade this 3Gs. (had used a work 4 for a while tho).

Rumour and ~noises~ say that the 5 isn't a 4s but is an all-new design because they want to get far away from the "hur it has broken antenna so not getting one" perception.

Yeah I have a 3GS and have zero problems with it, it's great. Well, the speaker broke and I had to replace the front glass at one point and did kind of a bad job so now there's dust trapped underneath it everywhere but uh.... aside from those things I don't feel any sort of screaming need to improve it.

In fact I sort of like the broken speaker. I never have to hear those stock ringtones or SMS alerts (at least not from my own phone).

does anyone else using a 3G have problems with the maps app? specifically that its insanely slow?

Yeah, can't use it any more. Type in a letter, stand lost in the middle of the street getting in everyone's way, think 'What the hell am I doing, just ask someone already'. Ask someone. Blank looks. Go home.

Yep, same problem for me in the last month or so.

Maps is too slow on all iphones but yeah, disastrous on the 3G.

Rumour and ~noises~ say that the 5 isn't a 4s but is an all-new design because they want to get far away from the "hur it has broken antenna so not getting one" perception.

― stet, Saturday, 5 March 2011 23:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Rumours about this new ipad said it was getting a retina display and that it would be out in the US in January, then February, then delayed to June, then September, then the first week of April. Um.

There's a case for redesigning in the wake of ANTENNAGATE OH NO but that whole issue does feel reasonably overblown. I'm not in America obv but I know stacks of people with a 4 on different networks and not a single one can even force it to happen. I've gone to some effort to reproduce it on 850 MHz and 2100 MHz networks and can't make it lose a single bar.

The new CDMA iphone 4 is almost exactly the same design btw, just with a slight CDMA-specific tweak to the metal bit. Feels like a lot of effort through the whole design and manufacturing chain just for a few months but obv I'm probably wrong.