New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Huh. Now it seems both up and down = left. How embarrassing!

I should elaborate on that. Okay, the iphone 3G was always a sluggish piece of crap. On v2 of the OS it was all right, but there were memory leak issues with the keyboard, crashes galore, you couldn't play music and do anything else at the same time etc etc. It just wasn't terribly responsive or reliable. The iphone 4 is by contrast an incredibly zippy and fluid piece of kit.

I'm sure iOS 5 will turn the iphone 4 upside down with proper multitasking or some such but right now it's fine.

strange how the iphone 1 (now forgotten, RIP) was such a leap fwd in many respects yet still so backwards in many others (no C&P lol)

^ solitary posts that effortlessly summarise the spirit of apple

I should elaborate on that. Okay, the iphone 3G was always a sluggish piece of crap. On v2 of the OS it was all right, but there were memory leak issues with the keyboard, crashes galore, you couldn't play music and do anything else at the same time etc etc.

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still the only iphone I ever owned. and I did trav to amerikeh to pick it up it's true

should'nt have bought the desire I have now (it's shit) tbh. roll on iphone 5

android sucks linux' balls

True. Yesterday Gruber pointed out that Apple wasn't really sure what the ipad was for in its first year (same with the iphone to an extent; remember it didn't even have an app store in the first year). I think that's why this year's revision is so enormous.

How does Apple's great epiphany translate into a new level of consumer interest? Will people will be rushing to the stores, enticed by the prospect of using the front-facing camera and A5 chip to arse around in GarageBand and make SexyTime with their girlfriend?

Nah it's more that last year the ipad was a sort of a thing of some sort that sort of did sort of word processing and sort of a bit of sort of email and sort of browsing, whereas this year they had a showreel of people doing ipaddy things with it. I must admit I walked away from last year's launch wondering what all the fuss was about, but this week the ipad actually looked like a genuinely worthwhile proposition.

Don't really see the big difference with iPad 2, but I like my iPad 1 just fine. Word processing is ... not something I've really thought of doing on it though.

I mean, I'd like a speed bump, sure.

Also (and this is weird, I can't adequately put it into words, bear with me) the first ipad was chunky and heavy and not terribly elegant imo. In pics and videos, and then in person, it just looked and felt awkward and prototypey. This year's already looks like an Apple product, and despite the similar weight I reckon it'll feel that way too.

xp ah, there you go, that's the point I was making. Apple launched iwork with the ipad as if to say 'we think this is what people might do with it' because they really weren't sure where the ipad was going to go.

Sorry, I'm really not explaining myself terribly well.

i find that a big key to performance on an iphone is how much free space it has, even when mine had about 5 GB left it was getting slow, I deleted some stuff and now it has like 10 GB left and it's running faster

smh @ apple for not including more ram

Must be swap space. My 4's down to ~1.5 Gb of free space and apps have started to crash all over the place.

Don't think Pages et al were ever a big sell, really. Everyone knew it was the third-party developers who would really exploit its capabilities.

Though having said that, I probably spend more than half my time on it in Safari.

Interesting. I've heard people who got it at launch and lost interest have recently gone back to it, but I don't know what they're doing with it. I presume most just keep it by the sofa when they're watching telly and just poke at it when they're bored.

Bah, version 1 works great, typing this on one right now.

and I still don't know what to do...

Maybe I'll just get the 4, because I am having a hard time living with my 3G.

If you reckon you can wait three months, wait three months.

I'm not a great believer in the psychological benefits of "waiting fr the right moment". If your 3G is driving you demented, just buy the 4.

thanks for the advice. Good advice all around.

when I got the 4 after a couple of years with the 3G I honestly couldn't believe how much of a jump it was. Really fulfilled the promise of a pocket computer. It's probably my primary browsing/emailing/consuming computer now fwiw.

Am waiting for the 5 to upgrade this 3Gs. (had used a work 4 for a while tho).

Rumour and ~noises~ say that the 5 isn't a 4s but is an all-new design because they want to get far away from the "hur it has broken antenna so not getting one" perception.

Yeah I have a 3GS and have zero problems with it, it's great. Well, the speaker broke and I had to replace the front glass at one point and did kind of a bad job so now there's dust trapped underneath it everywhere but uh.... aside from those things I don't feel any sort of screaming need to improve it.

In fact I sort of like the broken speaker. I never have to hear those stock ringtones or SMS alerts (at least not from my own phone).

does anyone else using a 3G have problems with the maps app? specifically that its insanely slow?

Yeah, can't use it any more. Type in a letter, stand lost in the middle of the street getting in everyone's way, think 'What the hell am I doing, just ask someone already'. Ask someone. Blank looks. Go home.

Yep, same problem for me in the last month or so.

Maps is too slow on all iphones but yeah, disastrous on the 3G.

Rumour and ~noises~ say that the 5 isn't a 4s but is an all-new design because they want to get far away from the "hur it has broken antenna so not getting one" perception.

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Rumours about this new ipad said it was getting a retina display and that it would be out in the US in January, then February, then delayed to June, then September, then the first week of April. Um.

There's a case for redesigning in the wake of ANTENNAGATE OH NO but that whole issue does feel reasonably overblown. I'm not in America obv but I know stacks of people with a 4 on different networks and not a single one can even force it to happen. I've gone to some effort to reproduce it on 850 MHz and 2100 MHz networks and can't make it lose a single bar.

The new CDMA iphone 4 is almost exactly the same design btw, just with a slight CDMA-specific tweak to the metal bit. Feels like a lot of effort through the whole design and manufacturing chain just for a few months but obv I'm probably wrong.

I never heard anyone seriously suggesting the iPad 2 would have a retina display, to be fair. It was more like a mooted "it would be cool" straw man of a rumour that everyone could jump on to show how they knew it was too expensive and too much of a battery drain at the moment.

Yeah, but for a while there were also the 'omz they're increasing res by 20%' type rumours which make sod-all sense in an iOS context. I've seen so many duff rumours recently that I'm disinclined to believe anything that (a) doesn't make 100% complete sense and (b) isn't backed up by about a dozen unit/case photos from different sources (not that I'm saying a redesigned iphone 5 isn't sensible).

Antennagate seemed more a result of much-hyped product = much-hyped problem that wasn't such a big problem after all. Hasn't the 4 been a huge success? Aren't other phones susceptible to the same problem?

Everything I've read suggests that the 4 took a long time and a lot of money to develop, so it seems unlikely they would cut the model life short, especially when the pattern seems to be a two year lifespan. Most of the rumors I've seen center around a processor boost, including a possible switch to dual core. The bigger screen rumor is definitely out there, but my impression is that it's basically speculation based on some random mock-ups lifted from random Chinese websites.

I guess the relative success of the Android phones might change Apple's calculations, but based on what I've read (though I am hardly well-informed in the real sense), the probable hardware update will be a performance boost and not a redesign.

In any case, I am beginning to despise the tec rumor business and particularly despise Apple's cynical use of the mania to hype its products. At some point, Apple's customers are going to get sick of being dicked around. Or not?

oh and the ipad 2 retina rumours were at fever pitch for about a week until some people realised nobody can make displays like that yet xp

Maybe I must listen to filtered rumour sources.

just listen to, rather.

The bigger screen rumor is definitely out there, but my impression is that it's basically speculation based on some random mock-ups lifted from random Chinese websites.

Yeah. It's a possibility, but considering the iphone 4's display has basically set the ultimate benchmark for phones (outside AMOLED) there's certainly no need for that to happen this year.

Based on this new ipad I have a feeling the design of this year's iphone will be almost identical (perhaps slightly thinner) and that next year's iphone will be insanely thin.

xp yeah, I sift through all of them but it's more for lolz than anything.

When you say "two year lifespan" to a model, are you really talking about the industrial design of it then, Supercub? Is that the big thing? A whole new look is unlikely this year, yes.

Yeah, basically the external hardware, including design. Is form factor the right term? As best i understand, the internals are kind of on a two-year cycle, and the design is on a two-year cycle, but the two don't align. Meaning the internals of the 3Gs are closer to the 4, than the 3. But the design of the 3Gs more closely resembles the 3. So the 5 would look like the 4, but maybe have a new processor and possibly a RAM boost(?).

I would need someone more technically clued in to confirm this impression though.

That's what I think will happen, yeah.

oh except the internals of the 4 are quite different in that Apple's own chip (A4) is in the 4 but some old third party chip was in the 3GS iirc.

My view of iPhone upgrades is informed by my experience with the 3G. I got the 3G in the February following its release. The 3Gs came out a few months later. I was pretty okay with having the older version, because the design was similar. I didn't really concentrate on the performance boost, because the 3G seemed like such a dramatic upgrade from my previous phone. Now though, my 3G is getting kind of horrible and the 3Gs seems still to be a solid performer.

oh and the 4's screen has 4x the pixels of the 3GS xp

Yeah the 3GS is solid mainly because it has twice the memory of the 3G. The processor bump helped too, but I think memory is the main problem with the 3G. 128 Mb RAM is sort of ridiculous.

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me, this morning

Debating selling my 'late 09' 27" iMac i7 for one of the new 15-inchers and an external monitor (pretty much an even trade of iMac to MBP, external monitor would be extra). Thunderbolt would make external HDs much less of a PITA.

I still find having to unmount the external HD before "undocking" from external HD a bit of a PITA, especially when it turns out iTunes is using it. Thunderbolt won't solve that, though one day perhaps there will only be one cable connection to unplug.

(when you've got your MacBook hooked up to external display etc, as I do)

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this^^ i feel like is a result of the fact that apple isnt as good at the internet as it should be - rumored me.com/itunes overhaul still hasnt arrived - basically there needs to be a free automatic aspect of yr ios device that lives in the cloud - imo biggest problem w/the whole situation

Maybe wireless providers are concerned about network overload