US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

Ford, Nixon, Rockefeller, Dole, Poppy Bush – what were they besides reluctant liberals?

Tea Party used to be, like, John Birchers and scary anti-communists and stuff. The angry "populist" contingent. It's not a new thing though that they want to control or drive the Republican Party, they've been doing that for at least twenty years.

Ford, Nixon, Rockefeller, Dole, Poppy Bush – what were they besides reluctant liberals?

LOL. Nowadays all the Democrats are reluctant conservatives.

but the Left won the narrative on that, Shakey, and Walker's career is v probably ruined....

in 1998, i thought that Newt Gingrich's career was v. probably ruined ... but no it wasn't. see any of another bunch of GOPers who "bounce back" after some catastrophe that would've done in a Dem.

Obama is also a "reluctant liberal" (when he's actually governing, when he's campaigning that's a different matter)

I don't know, Eisbaer: I saw little difference between his and Bill Clinton's campaign promises (and banal "change" theme).

also: Newt Gingrich IS ruined. He has less than zero chance of even coming in fourth place.

for one thing, Iowans won't tolerate his marital indiscretions; and the neocon wing things he's batshit.

yeah Gingrich is totally delusional at this point

pretty amazing to see the loser/deluded/opportunist candidates really swinging for the fences with the gutter-right stuff. trump is a birther! etc

to be fair the gop itself was dead just two years ago. now they have the house

the slight hope i have left is obama wins a second term and takes off the gloves without having to ever worry about running again. but i am also a huge sucker

Yes, getting fooled again when you actually remember this myth about Bill Clinton in 1996, no less.

Alfred generally otm. Obama was clearly this bastard before he was sworn in; just a bit worse now.

I don't think Gingrich will ever hold elective office again, or that he really wants to. Just needs a stage and a mic.

you make him sound like Nas

guys Santorum blames Social Security insolvency on abortion

wait what

does he really...?

I mean...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

too many aborted workers not paying into the system!

because y'know, there's just WAY more jobs than employable people in the country right now

if only companies looking to hire new employees had more people to choose from...

*shakes head sadly*

Steyn made a similar argument some while back saying, in a spectacular amalgam of abortion illiberalism, middle-class angst, racism and anti-immigrant prejudice, that as long as we allowed abortion, we were forced to allow too many un-assimilatable foreigners in to prop up economic growth and institutions like social security and that such increasing diversity was eroding ppl's liking for social security since (presumably white) more and more Americans felt that some other groups were cheating or gaming the system. In other words, he was arguing for a more 'American' underclass.

jim mcdermott for president
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVT5BElFtk

sooo the kid who does all those tim pawlenty action trailers is a puma

http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/2037966/revealed-banksy-online-political-video

funny

lol at 'remember november' and 'tea-paw'

but the Left won the narrative on that, Shakey, and Walker's career is v probably ruined....

Walker's career is probably stronger than ever. I imagine he proved himself 100x over as a steadfast knight in the oligarchy's war on the slob class. He even got 'Are teachers bottom-feeding scum?' as a serious talking point in the political spectrum. The bill still got passed and an historical protest movement was shut out of the media. In what ways have the Left won on this?

how is Walker's career stronger than ever? If the recall election ousts him, which seems very probable at this moment, what other options does he have?

If the recall election ousts him, which seems very probable at this moment, what other options does he have?

Fox News, of course. or a cush job at some right-wing think tank.

He's defeating the evil unions, he's standing up to walkouts, he's gotten people to hate on public school teachers, he's completely and utterly shameless in everything he does. If he doesn't have a future in politics, then I bet the corporate sector (or the revolving door between the two) has a place for him. Yeah, Fox News, maybe a Think Tank, maybe working directly for the Koch bros. He's certainly proven his worth to the Right.

^^^yep. he may well lose the governorship but I bet his attitude is "fuck it, my work is done here. Now on to my higher/more well paid calling"...

I'm pretty sure Rick Scott will suffer the same fate.

Rick Scott can just lol about in all that Medicaid money that he's diverting his way.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/gop-rep-im-struggling-on-my-174k-salary-video.php?ref=fpb

maybe there should just be a WI thread, at this point.

lol Real World alum

here's some morning entertainment:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/ayers_affirms_he_wrote_dreams.html

pretty good rule of thumb: never trust anyone without a sense of humor

Apparently some conservatives were so dumb they took this for an AHA! moment.

i think that's this guy's whole career basically

hahahaha oh my god

definitely click through to that blog if only to enjoy the painting of uncle sam shitting on a log

So House Speaker Boehner is supposedly trying to put together a budget with the support of non-Tea Party Republicans and Blue Dog Dems that he thinks the White House and Senate Dems will go along with. This is looking ugly no matter how it works out. The Dems are not, as Clinton did, making a strong case that we will not allow cuts to x,y, and z (health, education,...)they're simply disagreeing on how much to cut. Not surprising but still disappointing.

saw Blue Dogs described as "moderate Dems" on MSNBC crawl this morning

bcz there are no conservative Dems, what are ya, crazy

yeah, Ronald Reagan might end up being a Blue Dog Dem were he alive today.

had he switched to Republican when he gave red actor names to HUAC?

He didn't formerly switch parties until the early sixties.

well see, he was a crusadin' witchhuntin' bluedoggin' Democrat

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/education/30paddle.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=corporal%20punishment&st=cse

i just want to meet someone who thinks this is ok - fucking baffling to me. guess i shouldnt get nostalgic for the early obama days but seems like they should have banned federally when they had the chance in his first year or 2

generally speaking, if the school does something to a kid that sends the kid to the hospital, the school should be fucked

still I'm an awful person because I got to the point in the article where the spokesman/founder of People Opposed to Paddling Students appeared and couldn't stop giggling at the stupid name

i don't think a school should have the right to hit a child period

i also giggled/rolled my eyes at POPS, lol

Magnitude should be their spokesperson.

http://www.todayinsport.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jasper2.gif
"giggling at the stupid name? you better bet that's a paddlin'..."

Full Ohio Senate and House just passed their union-busting bill to send on to Gov. Kasich, right after the Speaker had all the bill opponents ejected from the gallery and referred to them on a live mic as "goddamned visitors." Ohio State Highway Patrol, who opposed the bill, had to forcibly remove everyone.

oh shit