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Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

just cuz harvey keitel isn't in GoodFellas?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

exactly, yes.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

mean streets is a harvey keitel movie and goodfellas is not, thus there is absolutely no basis for comparison

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

also in general people have just talked abt this film too much, and very rarely is anything new said about it. for something somewhat new see the scorsese chapter in gilberto perez's the material ghost.

mean streets has some great moments, but a lot of it is kind of arrhythmic (not in a good way), the thematic material is presented kind of clumsily, and certain scenes really suffer from piss-poor post-synch sound.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

One time a group of us went to go see Raging Bull in the Film Forum and the conversation the rest of the day was just like this:

Person A: (something completely innocuous about, like, pickles here)
Person B: What? You fuck my wife?!?!?!

it wasn't as funny the next day.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the opening shots, with the "be my baby"-scored jump cut, are some kind of formal breakthrough though.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

actually, I think that's pretty great, Ally. But I'm kind of used to quoting movies with friends for years.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

for some reason my friends and i are always re-enacting the "i got some nice new dresses for you" scene, i find it endlessly amusing

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

someone do the "funny how?", quick.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I did the "funny how?" on that how well do you take compliments thread.

the "she's a tiger" and "take her for ice cream" scenes in Scarface have been referenced plenty any time I've been to a bar recently.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

RJG, YOU FUCK MY WIFE?@!?!?!

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck how? like I was a clown?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw 5 minutes of "scarface" the other night while waiting for a video to rewind, which is as much as i've ever seen of it. what a strange film (if i saw a representative 5 minutes).

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

what did you see?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I have never understood what's good about Pacino's Scarface.

Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

what did you see?
-- s1ocki (slytus...), August 19th, 2004.

a few close-ups of al pacino with cake makeup, driving a car, talking in a funny accent, then he visits his mother and sister an continues talking in a funny accent but with fewer close-ups.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i like carlito's way better

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

you'd prefer his orgasm face.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i love the VO in carlito's way: "so, here's me..."

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think they're the same kind of movie

I don't think MS really knows exactly what kind of movie it wants to be. It's kind of a loosely connected series of vignettes that attempt to sketch and pay quasi-nostalgic tribute to a half-remembered adolescent milieu. It's less cohesive than GF - perhaps it suffers from not being as explicitly autobiographical - there's no central figure with the ability to pull all the threads together. Plus the ending of MS is kind of boring and doesn't quite attain the tragic dimensions it would like to have.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

carlito's way was voted "best film of the 1990s" by cahiers du cinema!!

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

dear french people i love u

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

gros bizous monsieur s1ocki! i tip my beret to you!!!

ze french people, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

mwah mwah

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

My, this thread is active.

scorsese should've directed the breakfast club!

It could have only improved that movie. Would Anthony Michael Hall been a killer or a victim?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

it would certainly make that scene where they're smoking pot and running around a lot more intense

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

And the eighties soundtrack is already in place!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

"Don't you EVER forget about me!" *fires gun*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

some friends of mine in college were talking a "topics in directorial approaches" class or something, and an assignment was to do a treatment of a "scorsese western." which seems to take auterism to a whole new asinine level, but the results were kind of interesting nonetheless.


amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I wholeheartedly recommend Joe Queenan's If You're Talking To Me, Your Career Must Be In Trouble and Confessions of a Cineplex Heckler to everyone here. Excerpts from the index should explain why.

"DeNiro
appropriate casting as character named Noodles, 76
first Spanish conquistador with Mott Street accent, 130-131
and Mickey Rourke, 72
and seal of confession, 58
and slime, 72
and slugs, 72
hair in Cape Fear resembling rat marinated in Vaseline, 148

Dunne, Griffin
traumatized by Joni Mitchell music, 142

Mastrantonio, Mary Elizabeth
influence of Pam Grier on, 38

Pacino, Al
trouble pronouncing the word "shit," 36

Scorcese, Martin
surprising ability to keep getting dates, 139"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

poor scorsese, forever stereotyped on the basis of his gangster melodramas.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

he only REALLY made one

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, we could talk about Bringing Out the Dead if you like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

can we not please?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG that movie was so boring.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

From Mott Street, an unproduced Paul Schrader screenplay (acc. to Queenan):

A mook and a palook a are playing nine-ball for $1.69 a game in a dingy Little Italy social club. Suddenly a blonde named Carmella dressed all in white (camouflaging the semen on her skirt) gets out of a big yellow taxi and drops a rosary on the ground. As an aria from Donizetti wells up in the background, switch to an overhead shot of a wise guy firing five bullets, four of which miss, into the mook's neck, while three old men named Tommy holler "Yo, Mikey, whatsa matter with you?" The film now fades from color to black and white, save for the huge red neon light in the distance reading "JESUS SAVES."
"Hey Joey, didn't you used to be somebody?" the vamp asks the wounded man.
"No, that was my brother, Vinnie," he replies.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

there's a film that was quickly forgotten. i thought it had some good stuff in it, and some fucking horrible stuff, like self-parody bad.

amateur!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

That was Nic Cage's attempt at penance for starring in Con Air, right?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

miccio these jokes are tired and dumb thx.

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

well, yeah, anybody who can earnestly say "poor Scorcese" would think that.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

dude it's a figure of speech

amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Casino is Scorsese's western!

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

and I loved Bringing Out the Dead =/

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

THE ROCK

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

well there goes all desire to check THAT scorcese flick out

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

The Color of Money is my favorite Scorsese movie from the eighties. Paul Newman's wonderful, Tom Cruise makes the dumb punk role work for him, Forrest Whittaker is sublime in his cameo, and "It's In the Way That You Use It" is definitely one of the better songs that Eric Clapton did in that decade.

Some of you are starting to sound like Jimmy Two-Times, "Mean Streets is so camp, Mean Streets is so camp..."

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

scorsese

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Pointing out typos on a message board is soooooooo camp, RJ.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link


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