Javier Marìas

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I finally finished All Souls this weekend. Nowhere near as good as Your Face Tomorrow to be honest, but it was interesting to see themes popping up again. It was kinda like YFT but without all the intrigue and spying etc. also I enjoyed recognising bits in Oxford it talked about. and the climactic ending was quite good actually.

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

just picked up the elvis interpreter novella, am pumped/posting

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 5 May 2011 07:38 (twelve years ago) link

this isn't new or anything btw, just posting

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 5 May 2011 07:39 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

i wanted to! but i couldnt find a physical copy of the second book in this entire city. i did manage to find a mint copy of tusk on vinyl for $8 but i had to order the book from amazon.

― terrible poster (Lamp), Friday, 4 June 2010 06:16 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg tupra!!!!!!

― Lamp, Friday, 11 June 2010 01:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^i enjoy the progression between these two posts

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

I read through the thread before seeing your post thomp & I was going to copy and paste that exact combo with a v. similar response to it!!

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

ha i've stopped there until i finish pt 3 in case here be dragons or something

these are basically just amazing tho

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

Been thinking about rereading Your Face Tomorrow. Such a great trilogy.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 13 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

::blushes::

one of the things that i really loved about these books is that they were invigorating to think and write about whereas so much stuff i read, i just bogged down or tired trying to think about my reaction to it, to find something interesting or worthwhile in the impression it left. idk these books were p amazing i guess

(_()_) (Lamp), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

ha i have kind of the opposite reaction -- nine tenths of what i read i'm conscious totally of my reaction to it & where i'm situating myself in relation to it. whereas this i was totally caught up in & i feel like what i might say in a 'critical' line is sort of beside the point

i think partly bcz how totally fascinating it is as craft -- i mean, i'm less taken with this as a 'novel of ideas' or whatever than i am amazed at how compelling it makes twelve hundred fairly uneventful pages, and makes tremendous weight land on a half dozen moments that couldn't be experienced as a big deal without what's behind them -- i've been going on at people about it and i find myself going 'no the guy realises someone is following him home and it takes like five hundred pages to resolve what's up with that, and that's amazing' and they go 'so what's it actually about' and i go 'oh, you know, spies and stuff'

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

(and now i have finished it i have gone back and read the thread --)

re: the continuities with other books: all souls (which i just ordered) is apparently about all the oxford types that deza mentions in the first section -- nb. i am kind of glad i waited until i had met some oxford types to start reading this, ha -- and dark back of time is a gloss on all souls that sort of leads into this

what i hadn't seen mentioned was that custardoy is all over a heart so white: the character that luisa's sister-in-law calls to get the scoop on him is that book's narrator, and what he explains about custardoy is all stuff he mentions directly there. it was kind of weird to see him showing up, actually. -- but i wonder if that accounted at all for my not thinking the third book sagged at all. -- also possibly that i went directly into reading it from the second, so i wasn't reading it as anything but one big, long novel (and it really seems like the natural break between books, if there were to be one, would fall at the end of 'poison'). -- but shadow seemed to be kind of implacable in terms of, this is how this would have to happen - a logic of structure that couldn't not go any other way, given how everything's been framed. (whereas farewell seemed to go back to being way more human and having some room for chance operation, rather than, er, self-perpetuating narrative permutation (which n.b. i'm not saying is a bad structural principle in any way))

'permutation' -- i kept waiting to see if the recurring line about 'my fever, my spear, my dance and dream' (etc) would ever show up with all seven ducks lined up in a row, which i guess i'm glad it didn't -- also i was curious about his choice of 'spear', which seems to be lacking the metaphorical freight of the other six (unless it has some other weight in spanish, though i feel like jull costa would have glossed that somewhere): and then it shows up in an incredibly literal fashion

likewise i was amazed (given how he seems to be, normally, with his titles, and his running lit. quotes - 'a heart so white' must directly reference the scene in macbeth it gets its title from a dozen times) at how casually 'your face tomorrow' was glossed eight hundred pages -- & curious whether anything is to be made of the switch from 'thy' to 'your', given how much weight there is here on 'usted' and 'tu' (and 'mr tupra' and 'bertram' and 'bertie', amongst all the others)

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

also i am very curious who people pictured dick dearlove as whilst reading

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

i did not know that, about his other novels being connected. well i knew about 'all souls' but not the others

(_()_) (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

thread making me think I shd read this + Machen & Gawsworth links, right?

The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Just read 'While the Women are Sleeping', his short story collection, because of this thread, as not feeling strong enough atm for a huge trilogy

Really enjoyed it, even if a couple of the stories left me a bit bewildered as to what actually happened.

He has this lovely urbane, witty, charming Spanish thing going on, rather like Alberto Manguel, and sometimes Borges. And a bit like Robert Louis Stevenson (ans the Spanish bit), who I'm pretty sure Borges, Manuel and Marias are big fans of.

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

Gawsworth MAY show up in a story in While the Women are Sleeping, btw

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

Gawsworth MAY show up in a story in While the Women are Sleeping, btw

Oh yeah, I just remembered that - through the window of the retail store, I think.

OWLS 3D (R Baez), Monday, 20 February 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

gawsworth is mentioned in all souls, which is proving to be easily the most genuine oxford novel i have yet encountered

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Monday, 20 February 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

All right, all right, I may have to give this guy another chance. Still have a copy of Dark Back of Time, maybe I will reread All Souls first.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 February 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

Perfectly alright to read Dark Back first, I'd say. That was my first Marias, the one that hooked me.

Doesn't get mentioned much, but The Man Of Feeling is a splendid book. Less bound to digression, more Nabokovian.

OWLS 3D (R Baez), Monday, 20 February 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

All Souls has a scene in which (like A Heart So White, and Your Face Tomorrow too kind of) an interpreter makes up his own questions during an interrogation of some kind; also, like the latter, a disquisition on how the word 'eavesdrop' doesn't exist in Spanish

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

oh to have time to reread these

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 19 July 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link

Vaster than empires and more slow

Crawling From The Blecchage (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 July 2015 07:43 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

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