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I'd guess he has a point if he's talking about Tory voters mouthing off on the mid-morning phone-ins on local stations like BBC Radio Shropshire etc.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Conservative Friends of Poland

Like Neville Chamberlain, he means?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure it's mostly Channel 4 running the anti-Polish stuff. But it is tricky spotting the difference between Panorama and the Völkischer Beobachter most weeks.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

EXCLUSIVE: Max Mosley confirmed as new Panorama presenter.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

A step too far, this is causing as much kerfuffle as when the moved women's hour.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Friday, 12 June 2009 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/14/ben-bradshaw-bbc-management

the bbc does seem amazingly inept at covering its arse. it is kind of a symptom of a wider elite-class self-aggrandizement that the likes of byford and thompson think they deserve mad money, but it's still going to come back to bite them.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 09:31 (eleven years ago) link

beeb has kind of an impossible job in dealing with its critics, since they simultaneously claim the licence fee isn't justified because the bbc isn't populist enough and that it isn't justified because it doesn't provide enough specialised content that the commercial sector won't touch. i can't see that sharing the licence fee does anything to help except spreading it thinner.

agree that bbc bosses don't help the cause though.

joe, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

is it really going to be dismantled?
― D Aziz (esquire1983), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:03 (5 years ago)

Possibly, if - when - the Tories get in.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/19/wed-abolish-bbc-trust-hunt

DavidM, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

Has to be a troll:

Pay per view BBC news would allow the lefties to view their own biased news reports while the rest of us could choose ITV news for more impartial reporting.

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

this business about "damaging commercial competitors" really pisses me off. we should be celebrating the fact that the BBC creates quality products and services for "free", not requiring it to dumb down its offerings so that something inferior and expensive can maintain market share.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

Whenever that comment is made, it is usually voiced by someone with vested interests eg. Murdoch. In America, Murdoch goes after Obama but here he goes after impartial news media. This should be a good compass for anyone wishing to locate the centre of power in any given country. Who does Murdoch go after in, say, China?

Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Monday, 19 October 2009 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, you do wonder whether this is the quid for the quo of The Sun's support.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

tories don't need any outside encouragement to go after the bbc, tbh.

joe, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

So is the Mail anti-Beeb purely because of DMGT's regional newspapers? Or is there something else, aside from Jonathan Ross and the telly tax?

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

it's ideological - the bbc is full of lefties.

joe, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

not only that, the whole concept of the BBC is lefty.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

and yet they've employed Jeremy Clarkson, Carol Thatcher, Michael Burke, Patrick Moore (latter two mentioned just due to sexist comments made in past)...

modescalator (blueski), Monday, 19 October 2009 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

Patrick Moore is very right-wing on immigration too, unfortunately.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

and yet they've employed Jeremy Clarkson, Carol Thatcher, Michael Burke, Patrick Moore (latter two mentioned just due to sexist comments made in past)...

... and Andrew Neil and Michael Portillo and Nick Robinson and Quentin Letts ad nauseum

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

Michael Buerk is a Conservative?

Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

Only when it comes to the BBC employing women, I think... women who get jobs he wants, that is

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

sexist, conservative, racist - all the same

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

Regardless of how many sexist conservative racist rightwingers are employed there, the very existence of the BBC as a huge part of the media landscape is a slap in the face to Tory free market ideals, so obviously they want to pare it back. I don't think it's all about Murdoch.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

In my own experience, sexism is not limited to conservative men!

Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

LOL, far from it!

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

Wondering how many Tories are anti-Beeb (lol anti-Auntie, don't mind me) cz free market ideals, nanny state trying to make us pay for socialised tv, drag out ancient acronym about the commies etc, and how many are in favour of preserving it as a Great British institution from the days when Great Britain etc etc, y'know, a relatively staid old thing that doesn't put quite as many flashing neon colours and topless ladies on as the other channels

I mean, the other group does exist, right? Or is this the sector of small-c conservatives who wouldn't admit to being such and vote Lib Dem? (PS this is not really intended derogatively as it describes much of my family and quite possibly me)

ein fisch schwimmt im wasser · fisch im wasser durstig (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Hardly any of the latter and none who matter <--------- satirical poetry

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

and even they would be appeased by one radio station playing Test Match Special, the shipping forecast and The Archers

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

the opposition from Murdoch, the Mail etc is predicated purely on the BBC grabbing a fairly hefty slice of online eyeballs and TV ratings that might otherwise be going to their properties - however Murdoch's greatest fear is that the BBC carries advertising.. because then the advertisers would spread their (finite amount of) money over to the BBC innit

Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 October 2009 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

however Murdoch's greatest fear is that the BBC carries advertising..

also many BBC supporters greatest fear surely

modescalator (blueski), Monday, 19 October 2009 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

i can't believe i said "carries" instead of using the subjunctive. GAH

Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 October 2009 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

Fun fact: the BBC was nationalised under a Tory government.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 19 October 2009 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, THAT'll stop their commie styles in their TRACKS! oh wait (a long time)

Mark G, Monday, 19 October 2009 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Some guy on the weather forecast talking about a lull in the rain definitely used the phrase "a bit of rest-bite" today. Beginning of the end if you ask me.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Given the accuracy of the Met Office, that forecast might prove to be something of a damp squid.

Neil S, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

now we have a weatherman wearing jeans. It's a speedy apocalypse.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Don't be such a milk toast.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

DAMMING REPORT
was behind the newsreader on the lead item a few weeks back. ten o'clock news.

rap band (schlump), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

I read something about Prime Gordon Brown on their website a few minutes ago.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8273467.stm

The person in the video is not Clarie Middleton. I don't know who it is! (Not to mention that the new chief executive's name is "Clarie", not "Claire"...)

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 November 2009 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

goddamn liberal shilly-shalliers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/dec/16/bbc-africa-have-your-say

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

I suggest all gays are put on a remote island somewhere and left for a generation - after which, theoretically there should be none left!

no mate bruce springsteen is the american jimmy barnes (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

(is it legit to do a kind of quasi-homophobic zing here? along the lines of DIDN'T THEY TRY THAT WITH AUSTRALIA? OH!)

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

More of an Australophobic zinger there

Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

patosceptic

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

Ban all Ugandan discussions, that'll solve the problem.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

Heard they were making a film about this - Last Queen Of Scotland.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

Actually that's not funny.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

Haha.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 21 May 2021 15:13 (one month ago) link

as i've said elsewhere the bashir part of the story is the least interesting really. the diana connection is what makes the story front-page news but it's the sort of grimy bullshit that reporters have pulled forever and will keep pulling. the real story here - and actually kind of shocking to me, even though i should probably know better - is 1) the deliberate sabotaging of whistleblowers' careers and simultaneous protection of senior management and 2) the absolute shower of lies that tony hall poured into everyone's ears about this. tony was always the smiley guy who made inspiring speeches but behind the scenes it appears he was utterly corrupt!

"For the anonymous BBC leakers without whom we would never have known about Bashir's dishonesty there was only excoriation - briefed against by the BBC to the newspapers as "jealous colleagues" and referred to in an internal management document as "troublemakers." Because of "this sordid saga", says the document "we can either go the formal disciplinary route, which needs proof and may be messy or pick off the troublemakers one by one with a stiff warning and ensure they are found work elsewhere as speedily as is practicable".
The only named whistleblower Matt Wiessler would never again get any BBC work, Hall assured the governors. Wiessler paid a heavy price - his freelance graphics business eventually collapsed so he left London and in his own words became "a bit of a drifter… I tried lots of other things, but at heart I was always a television current affairs guy."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56680229

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 May 2021 15:27 (one month ago) link

i mean this is real dark shit!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 May 2021 15:28 (one month ago) link

just passed a car with a bumper sticker that said ❤️ Honk if you miss Princess Diana :[ and jason very solemnly honked

— Patricia Lockwood (@TriciaLockwood) May 21, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 May 2021 18:54 (one month ago) link

it's what she would've wanted

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:09 (one month ago) link

I heard she later became an advocate for distracted driving prevention ... ho ho ho!

calzino, Friday, 21 May 2021 20:42 (one month ago) link

Glad to see Hall has gone; there’s shit to answer for from 2016 let alone 1996

stet, Saturday, 22 May 2021 12:29 (one month ago) link

i always remember that she had been photographed a lot visiting minefield clearance sites just prior and when i heard she died i immediately assumed she had stepped on a landmine.

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 May 2021 17:46 (one month ago) link

I can never get that Archbishop Of Canterbury cut-up on Blue Jam "Lord Of Landmines .. give them AIDS " out of my head!

calzino, Saturday, 22 May 2021 17:54 (one month ago) link

i'll put this here rather than the tennis thread but I am so fucking angry i'm shaking, after listening to BBC Five Live's Sonja McLaughlan ponder out loud whether Naomi Osaka's depression might be an excuse because she's not great on clay, or whether she just needs to suck it up and talk to the media cos it's a weakness like having a weak forehand

i dunno if this'll get picked up anywhere but jesus fucking christ

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:12 (three weeks ago) link

The Sonja McLaughlan who sat 'sitting in her car crying' after receiving online abuse over an interview with an England rugby player?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/six-nations/sonja-mclaughlan-reporter-interview-questions-farrell-jones-b1808781.html

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:16 (three weeks ago) link

oh shit was that her?

i hope she gets bullied out of a fucking job for this but i doubt it

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:23 (three weeks ago) link

"There's a school of thought, isn't there, around Naomi Osaka, that suggests, y'know, look, clay isn't her favourite surface, and she didn't really want to be challenged, about, by the media, should she underperform in Paris...Is there any merit in that school of thought?"

"Look I believe Naomi Osaka is quite a shy person. If she had a weakness in her game, for instance, if she had an underperforming backhand, y'know an elite athlete would work on that...so if media is not her strength is that not something to work on? Because players have their responsibilities and commitments to sponsors and the media."

Transcribed it for the record and to reassure myself i'm not, in fact, going mad.

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:33 (three weeks ago) link

what the fuck

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:36 (three weeks ago) link

How much better to be a miserable surly cunt like Andy Murray and treat the media like the shit on your (tennis) shoes.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:39 (three weeks ago) link

in her own hideous way she is actually doing a very grand job of justifying Naomi's decision 1000%

calzino, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:44 (three weeks ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2yadaLXMAA0dLU?format=jpg&name=900x900

apologies for CWS content NV, but this one was pretty good I thought!

calzino, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:00 (three weeks ago) link

I've sent a formal complaint, never thought I'd be that kind of listener

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:02 (three weeks ago) link

disgraceful. Barry Cowan on sky sports news earlier blithely stating that scrutiny is just part of the game and you can't change the rules for one player. BARRY COWAN FFS! what did you ever achieve other than wild cards into Wimbledon you miserable fuck?

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:09 (three weeks ago) link

Thank fuck all these broadcasters don't have to do mental health awareness for 51 weeks of the year

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:35 (three weeks ago) link

disgraceful. Barry Cowan on sky sports news earlier blithely stating that scrutiny is just part of the game and you can't change the rules for one player. BARRY COWAN FFS! what did you ever achieve other than wild cards into Wimbledon you miserable fuck?


barry cowan is and always will be a useless cunt.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:04 (two weeks ago) link

Even his name is terrible.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:34 (two weeks ago) link

Good for you NV. Even if nothing substantial comes of it those complaints get read and are responded to and at the very least her producers will know about it. There is a massively paranoid culture at the BBC around audience complaints so they may even feel a momentary twinge of terror.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:56 (two weeks ago) link

i didn't ask for a reply, just felt like it should be registered. these will be the same idiots who wring their hands when a celebrity kills themself, utterly unaware of the slow steady drips they add to a poisonous narrative themselves

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 17:10 (two weeks ago) link

Holby City is being axed after 20+ years. Meanwhile, when the Euros start, Eastenders is going to have each week's worth of episodes put on iPlayer on the Monday so they can be watched at viewers' leisure. Both of those decisions make sense to me (Holby is terrible, in a way that even Casualty manages to not be), but it feels like a significant move in how UK drama is valued.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 21:59 (two weeks ago) link


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