I've interviewed him four or five times. He's extremely polite, nice, and a music geek like nobody you've ever talked to in your goddamn life. At the end of our last conversation, he spent like a half hour asking me about early '70s Miles.
― unperson, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link
This made me laugh a lot.
― unperson, Thursday, 10 April 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
nice
― am0n, Thursday, 10 April 2008 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
That's awesome.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Classic
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
sweet how ginn ends end right where he started, hair-wise
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
A+++
― latebloomer, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
bookmarked thread
― mkcaine, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Spot looks great.
― ian, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Spot and Pettibon still look exactly like they did 30+ yrs ago!
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 11 April 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
These were posted on a thread i made on another board so may as well post them here http://www.brianwalsby.com/comics/blackflagandme.jpg
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.brianwalsby.com/comics/life-after-black-flag-1.jpg
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.brianwalsby.com/comics/life-after-black-flag-two.jpg
unaccustomed as i am to self-promotion, and hoping this doesn't break ilx rules at all, can i slip a tiny plug in here for my Black Flag biography, Spray Paint The Walls, about to be released by Omnibus? you can read an extract at the Quietus here - http://thequietus.com/articles/03049-an-extract-from-stevie-chick-s-spray-paint-the-walls-the-story-of-black-flag - if yr interested...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
nice, stevie! i would read this book.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks scott!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Hehe very cool to see this come to fruition after all the legwork you put in to getting the interviews!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i know, it feels like YEARS since we visited you in the OC...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Time to come back!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, November 3, 2009 7:16 AM
― luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
looking forward to this!
I don't think there's any band that's more entertaining to read about than black flag
the flag stuff from that rollins biog is a hoot
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
lol, I grew up in Manhattan Beach, so this was great to read. I was about 6 months old when this concert took place, so I missed it sadly. This was a legendary story, though. Both Morris and Ginn went to my high school (as did most of the Descendants, I believe). I think there's like a great unwritten screenplay about late 70s punk/beach town culture clashes. Maybe I need to write it. Anyway -- I will read this book! Black Flag is totally fun to read about.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link
lol polliwog park
― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
they used to have this amazing play structure called "The Sunken Galleon" there. oh man, it was so dangerous. can't believe I didn't die on that thing.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
stevie i am going to buy and read yr book, exciting!
tyler have you read "enter naomi" by joe carducci? there's some good stuff in there in the vein of what you're talking about
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
there is stuff about the sunken galleon in Carducci's book?! kidding -- i haven't read it but I should. i talked to Ginn once for my high school newspaper ... it didn't go very well!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, Stevie, that extract is amazing. You can feel the dichotomies writhing as they are forced to stare each other in the face, then you notice that one face is full of blood.
I will buy the hell out of this book.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link
thank you all for the kind words and promises of purchase, dudes - and tyler, i second matt's recommendation of 'enter naomi', which is a really great personal take on that whole era (buy my book 1st tho!). was a great thrill to visit polliwog while researching the book, and soak up the pleasant valley sunday vibe that the Flag doubtless shattered that afternoon...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Great stuff Stevie, I'm in. When does it come out in the UK?
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link
should be out now, but i think there have been slight delays - its still a pre-order on amazon... i have yet to see a copy!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link
it is in stock on amazon! also, i'll be doing a reading/q&a at filthy mcnasty's on tuesday november 10th, as part of the Talking Music Revolutions Volume Four: The Metal Years event, alongside such awesome writers as Carol Clerk, John Robb, Joel McIver, Tommy Udo and Suzanne Moore, so come along if yr in London that night.
thus endeth my plugging...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Suzanne Moore
wait what
― War On The Terrances (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 November 2009 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I am totally going to buy this book btw
yeah i'm hoping its *the suzanna moore (its not my do so i don't know fo' sho). also i was just informed joel has a parents evening that night and now can't make it, but it'll still be cool!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link
suzanne
This is LONG overdue and I'm giddily excited about this. Will also 'buy the hell' out of this book.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link
hey stevie just wanted to let you know that on another board i go to there was a thread about your book that i didn't start! the buzz is building :)
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
haha LINK PLS MATT!!!
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
google is on to you
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/spray_paint_the_walls.gif
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
thumbs up from carducci!!
1 guessed/predicted in Rock and the Pop Narcotic that regarding Black Flag there was never enough sales for the real publishing industry to ever write a check to get to the bottom of the band's story. Back in the late 1980s when I wrote R&TPN only Faber & Faber was even issuing original music titles, and indeed they were the only publisher to take a look at my manuscript. But the 80s/90s roll-out of Tower Books, Barnes & Noble, and Borders did spur a short golden age of the music section in book stores. That's over now. But Omnibus in the UK, which once had the only book on Black Sabbath in print, now issues the first comprehensive book about Black Flag, first in the UK, soon here. Spray Paint the Walls is very well reported and assembled by Brit music writer Stevie Chick, author of the better of the recent Sonic Youth books. Neither Greg Ginn nor Henry Rollins sat for interviews but their voices are included from earlier interviews, and more importantly Chuck Dukowski spoke to Chick - a first I believe. The story, laid out from the band's earliest practices in 1976 to its end ten years later, makes a far more dramatic book than the usual shelf-fillers with their stretch to make the empty stories of various chart-toppers sound exciting and crucial and against the odds. I read a rough draft; I'm sure most of the minor Anglocentric miscomprehensions of timelines, causalities and geography are still in it but the book is powerful because it does the story justice. And those miscomprehensions are shared by most American music writers as well so what the hell...
― The looming shadow of the big baller/shot caller (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/kindle/merch/global/kindle-turing-widget-photo_020509._V251249236_.jpg Tell the Publisher!I’d like to read this book on Kindle
― luol deng (am0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Finished the book this morning, have to say Stevie, nice work indeed, really, really enjoyed it, so much great info.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
aw thanks mares nest... really glad you enjoyed it.
― I don't think this is funny..Much Clown Love Ya'll! (stevie), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
still looking forward to reading this -- soon! in the meantime, i tracked down a recording of that Polliwog Park show! http://ow.ly/Mv0M Neat ....
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
that show is nuts... the bootleg is essential, perhaps more for the banter between the roadies and the guy who put the show on than the music, but 'wasted' SLAYS
― I don't think this is funny..Much Clown Love Ya'll! (stevie), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, made me go back and dig out the albums, was rooting around in the loft yesterday looking for James Parker's book, Planet Joe and Get In The Van.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/justin-bieber-black-flag.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 July 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://grab.by/grabs/78550b4ceb4e799f5aa4fc25ad6989c3.png
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 August 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
that Bieber jpeg causes my rage to hit 28 Days Later levels
― San Te, Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
if u want one so bad just buy one
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
This milk's gone sour, smell it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
wnkiw these people/bands
(lol @ the punk rock drum circle though)
― adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, ""Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey" was deleted at 1:49:29 Mon May 23, 2011. Vimeo has removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by Greg Ginn claiming that this material is infringing: "Reality 86'd" A film by David Markey. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.
― am0n, Monday, 23 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
how long before it gets yanked or does ginn not care anymore
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Thursday, May 12, 2011 1:49 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
2 weeks apparently
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
I just read an interview with markey, like, last week about this, c/r where it was
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
oh here it is
http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2011/05/20/rettsounds-reality-86d/
― oh! me so brodie (Edward III), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
that ibanez he played during that period sounded horrible
― am0n, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, nothing came up on search.
Black Face - Dukowski teams up with Eugene Robinson to play some unreleased Chuck-written BF material and choice Flag tunes, Ginn nearly involved at one point, I'm excited!
http://www.viceland.com/music/2011/08/chuck-dukowski-from-black-flag-has-a-new-band-with-eugene-robinson/
― solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Friday, 5 August 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
Eugene posted this on the Supersonic FB page yesterday. I'm hoping there's a reason why.
― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Saturday, 6 August 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
So Kira won an oscar for sound mixing Mad Max last night. I had no idea:
http://www.stereogum.com/1862449/former-black-flag-bassist-wins-an-oscar-for-mad-max-fury-road/news/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign
― Darin, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/hcjnZrV.jpg
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
I just saw that picture being used in an ad for Vans shoes the other day. Maybe this is also part of that campaign.
― JRN, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
of course it is
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
Just performing my dirty duty as a consumer
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
anyway reason i was searching for rollins is bc i was wondering if anyone has more info on this
According to Rolling Stone magazine, after Cole's death, hundreds of hours of interviews Cole had taped with "flamboyant street characters" in Venice Beach were edited into an hour of "primo footage" that the magazine described as "an unflinching look at the American dream gone amok."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joe_Cole
rly interested in listening to those interviews by joe cole but cldnt find anything on the web
― infinity (∞), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
search 'god's movie'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGxVfh9lag
― how's life, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
from the vid description
A few segments from Joe Cole's "God's Movie", an unfinished documentary series documenting the street people of Venice Beach. This was shot in 1990 by Joe and myself, and I help out with the some of the interviews. This was originally released in a longer form as "God's Movie Volume 1" on VHS by Henry Rollins' 2-13-61, and has been long out of print. I am more than glad to share a few moments of this work with you here. Joe was shot and killed in a robbery a little more than a year after this. I miss him to this day and it is great to hear his voice here. If you like this I suggest searching for "How Much Longer" posted on Google Video, a video documentary I did with Joe all about the Desert Storm Victory Parade in Hollywood, 1991.
― how's life, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Amazing anecdote on the newest Henry & Heidi podcast about Hank being pressed into service by Sharon Osbourne at the famous Sabbath reunion gigs.
She asked him to help with an EPK and interview people backstage, so he goes over to interview Brian May and after they film the segment May says to him "by the way, I just want you to know, Freddie loved Black Flag"!!!!
https://youtu.be/G1hx4Ajnhiw?t=42m4s
― MaresNest, Monday, 21 January 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
Bullshit
― everything, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:16 (five years ago) link
I see "Black Flag" is playing in Baltimore in August. Is this Greg Ginn and 3 to 4 others? There's a mention of "First 4 years" 1983 comp that included pre-Henry stuff , on the Ottobar website. Will that be the musical focus?
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 17:58 (two weeks ago) link
https://x.com/hearinladotcom/status/1746282064192884916?s=46&t=u2ZSlsY3trRV36IPP6jNDQ
Black Flag’s 2024 lineup consists of founding guitarist Greg Ginn, singer Mike Vallely, who first appeared with the band as a guest in 2003 and became the band’s fifth vocalist in 2014,
and a rhythm section of Harley Duggan and Charles Wiley (both from Seattle band DARKHORSE RISING).
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 18:03 (two weeks ago) link
That would be a nice subtle bit of graffiti if someone added quotation marks on the posters for that show.
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:04 (two weeks ago) link
I've seen some youtube footage of recent Black Flag, and I would steer pretty clear of that tbh
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:23 (two weeks ago) link
Gonna skip it.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:21 (two weeks ago) link
EVERYONE SHOULD LSITEN TO RAY PETTIBONE'S NEW BAND ITS SO GOOD
https://surdrone.bandcamp.com/album/full-length-2
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 8 March 2024 21:07 (two weeks ago) link
sitting at the bar at a restaurant near my neighborhood and it’s crowded on a monday. realize the music venue across the street has the Black Flag (“black flag”?) show in an hour and, outside of two tables of people obviously going to it, I am trying to puzzle out the rest of the people in hereare the dudes in their 50s waiting around in the entryway here for the band? is there another event nearby? a mystery
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:09 (one week ago) link