Black Sabbath - "Symptom Of the Universe"

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I like the acoustic funk jam, but the genius is that it's at the end so you don't have to listen to it if you don't want!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

(I meant to imply that I've grown to love it now, like a comfy teddy bear.)

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I like how the first half of the song is ponderous universal stoner thought, and the second is just 'I love my girl.'

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

The best kept secret Hip Hop sample = acoustic funk jam

And how come no love for Thrill Of It All? One of my all time faves. Although, it's true that it holds a special place for me because it was the first ever Sab song I heard.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to submit "Hand of Doom" as another Sabbath klassic that hasn't received enough praise. The bridge is soooo fanfuckingtastic "Well, yooooooou you know you must be blind!!!"

darin (darin), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh hell yes. "Hand of Doom" is the sheeeeutt. Another hip hop sample waiting to happen (intro).

pheNAM (pheNAM), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

Been too long since I listened to Sabotage anyway. On it goes!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Overrated. My least favorite Sabbath album. Terrible cover art. Songs are decent but nowhere CLOSE to the best Sabbath did.

Tooth, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:38 (eighteen years ago) link

OUT.

(He said, while listening to "Megalomania.")

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, really. go back to utah.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I'M LIVING EASY WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE

disco violence (disco violence), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't actually think sabotage is the best sabbath album either, doodz. that would be volume 4. or the first album. depending on my mood.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

It doesn't have to be best, but anyone calling it a 'least favorite Sabbath album' -- even if we were just talking about the original eight albums -- needs to make a much better case.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

"Symptom Of the Universe" is without question the best song this band ever did.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the middle jam part of "Symptom," when they rock the claves

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

symptom of the universe IS a jam, indeed...

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

IT IS THEIR BEST.

ned listens to this every january, obv.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

It's the time of year.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

hole in the sky is no slouch either!

sabotage is radical....yay cokaine!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

cutty, i don't think you know what you're talking about. since when you like HEAVY METAL?

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The bad cover is part of this album's charm, no? And yeah, I use the word "charm" correctly -- I love it when Ozzy sings "A smiling face, it means so much to me."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

This would be my favourite Sabbath LP if only "The Writ" (the second half, really) didn't drag so. And the frequent hating on "Am I Going Insane?" has always flabbergasted me (shoulda been a HUGE radio single, as it was obviously earmarked to be.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't someone wearing elf shoes like the iron sheik used to wear in the wwf on the album cover? bill ward maybe?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Serendipitous Winterlude:

I just came across a great Ozzy-referencing Monster Magnet review by Ned Raggett in AMG while looking up a particular song ("Superjudge"):

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47D1ADE46A87F20D7933150CCA77BD21FDB51F394112E045BD9A12D51980763E85FFA95CCAEFE6AB679AFF962AC500CD2C0EE53ECBC1B&sql=10:v8420rjar489

My favorite line: "...everything is scaled for the biggest arena in the universe". Sweet.

nancyboy (nancyboy), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I'm everywhere!

Anyway, I like me the band Visitations, who I talk about here, and their lead guy Brendan under his Garm moniker included a cover of "Symptom" on The Acid Skull 205 that I now share via YSI:

Garm -- "Symptom of the Universe"

Do enjoy, if enjoy it you do.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Awful boring druggy shite.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is the love?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Volume 4, please. Not that I would turn away (or down) any old Sabbath...

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Sabotage is indeed fukkin' amazing…but what about the absolutely batshit, yet hauntingly gorgeous "SuperTzar"? Tony Iommi conducts a men's choir via his awesome SG! no ozzy and Geezer therein, I think…

was used as walk on music in recent Sab tours…

veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's a beserk version of Symptom from possibly the greatest bootleg ever, Sabbath live in Asbury Park 1975:

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30ET9F0AQK1HE3U7UTPHTIEUDC

I would join the debate over the best Black Sabbath album but unfortunately during adolescence Paranoid was somehow burned into my DNA.

veronica, FYI "Supertzar" has been used as Sabbath's walk-on music for decades...

Anybody ever hear the Born Again demos? They're quite good.

Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

ned, it's time to listen to this again

cutty, Friday, 2 January 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Sabbath had already invented metal, but this song really invented the more modern style of heavy riffing that everyone in the 80s and beyond copied ad nauseum.

There's also a really great Sepultura cover of this on Blood Rooted with a nicely tweaked acoustic outro (that's purposefully less funk AND instrumental).

Nate Carson, Saturday, 3 January 2009 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, way up thread, people keep saying that the first 5 Sabbath albums are great. This track is from their 6th album. Collect them all people!

Nate Carson, Saturday, 3 January 2009 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the song of songs

Fursona (real life tauren ^_^) (cankles), Saturday, 3 January 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I love how the heaviest metal riff of all time morphs into this samba/flamenco noodly thing at the end.

redmond, Saturday, 3 January 2009 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the krautrockiest sabbath song

well, one of the krautrockiest

what we do is secrete (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link

the end is definitely influenced by side 2 of led zeppelin IV

cutty, Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"Thrill Of It All" is more "kraut"-ier, as in it bounces between the harder rock Guru Guru and Amon Duul II, even during THEE SHIFT on that song when the synths kick in, the disco is on, and Ozzy falsettos "AAAAAAAAAAOOOOW YEEEEEEEEEEAH!"

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 3 January 2009 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ha, I like how I was invoked above. And yes it is January and yes I am playing this song of songs again YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 January 2009 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one of sabbath's greatest songs. pity the album as a whole is inconsistent with bizarre arrangements and forays into the orchestral offsetting the potency of the tunes on offer.

Charlie Howard, Monday, 19 January 2009 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i have not heard Sabotage, but I really REALLY want to....Symptom is second only to Children of the Grave & Supernaut in my book (with Cornucopia right on its heels...man what a great band!)

Test Tube Teens from the Year 1754 (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 19 January 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Sabbath albums 5-8 are great BECAUSE they are inconsistent, mostly. Never SAy Die! is consistent though, and also great. But Sabotage is at least the best of these four.

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Sabotage's "inconsistency" = its basic weirdness, right?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think they're even weird. It's more a matter of degrees. The first four Sabbath albums are, more or less, this atomic molecule that changed the weight of rock, but still, as much as I think the first four are vital and important, I got tired of them, so the looseness and variety of the next four Sabbath albums was really nice, even if they were made under less than ideal circumstances wrt the band on drugs, getting along, falling apart.

Never Say Die! is great, but in the grimmest way wrt the band. That album is the sound of a band trying to run the 10 meter dash, and just slowing down around meter 2 or so. It's (untentionally?) thematic in a sense. The quasi-random instrumental "Break Out" is a key track here. It's kinda like Sabbath's dirgey "L.A. Blues". Still the songs are very strong here.

There isn't a Sabbath album among the first 8 that sucks. Technical Ecstasy is the worst of the 8 only that it's merely good. It does have a handful of their worst songs of that era, though. ("Rock N Roll Doctor", "Gypsy" -- even though "Gypsy" has good parts in it.)

I like the first three Ozzy solo albums, but the best one is as good as Technical Ecstasy at best.

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

And I love "It's Alright". Go Bill!

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

You know what I mean by "weird": It's like they were listening to a lot of Queen or something.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Althought that's a real simplification.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Good post above, Mackro. I always thought the first half of Gypsy was great (fantastic riff), the second half some of the worst shit Sabbath has ever done.

Never Say Die is great.

Bill Magill, Monday, 19 January 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

..and Cheap Trick, and Thin Lizzy, and pretty much many 70s hard rock and/or poprock bands well established by then, yeah

if you see a 1978-era Sabbath show, you'll see Bill Ward invented the "crusty" look, easily.

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

(ok, fine, "crusty" is def. Bad Brains fashion worship. Bill Ward dreads just coincided.)

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It's that time of the year!

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link

Why thank you for the prompt!

YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

This is one of my favourite Sabbath songs ever! Ward sounds as if he's about to destroy his drum kit, Ozzy sounds incredibly pissed off and superb riffage throughout. Sabotage remains an underrated piece of work, but some days it's my favourite Sabbath LP.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link

Great song, though for a while I was irritated by the end where it gets all groovy/hippified.
― Ian John50n (orion)

OMFG I love this part! I used to play bass many incarnations ago and I always got frustrated when covering this in one of the bands I played with, because we never played the acoustic hippie funk coda. Balearic Sabbath is great and I wont hear otherwise.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

all my Black Sabbath remasters

o this has been? my copy sounds like shit compared to the others

j., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

Ditto Moka
And that “day in the life” style transition from heavy to groovy

calstars, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link

Mellow Sabbath is some of the best Sabbath
There are worse ways to pass the late afternoon than to put “solitude” on repeat

calstars, Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link

"we sail through endless skies" my mellow sabbath album

https://open.spotify.com/user/matthelgeson/playlist/6KAiYTobROEmgOk0uDMQJh

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:14 (six years ago) link

Veddy nice

calstars, Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link

I still give that one a spin every now and then!
(xpost)

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

A month late for the usual revive but

YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 February 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link

*air drums*

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 15 February 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link

Valentine's Day="Symptom of the Universe, A LOVE THAT NEVER DIES!!!"

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 February 2019 02:31 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Fan made doc on Sabotage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH8c4TKrIOo

calstars, Saturday, 29 January 2022 04:32 (two years ago) link

Oh that’s right it’s January!

YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 January 2022 05:00 (two years ago) link

That was actually quite informative about the band's management troubles, and explaining the cover. I don't hear any Mellotron on "Supertzar", though, just on "Megalomania".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 29 January 2022 05:28 (two years ago) link

Nice to see you Ned!

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 29 January 2022 09:57 (two years ago) link

Yeah the manager stuff was mad interesting
Made me appreciate the wrath of the writ that much more

calstars, Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:08 (two years ago) link

that was cool - ditto on the management stuff and "the writ"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link

Always great to hear north americans attempt to deploy (and explain) British slang.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zFfh6FsDws

calstars, Saturday, 29 January 2022 23:25 (two years ago) link

Imagine putting on side b and hearing the thrill of it all for the first time

calstars, Sunday, 30 January 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link

the way I feel is the way I am

calstars, Sunday, 30 January 2022 01:32 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

what a killer record this is

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:41 (one week ago) link

every time i think it can't get any better, some new idea comes along and blows me away. it's somehow kaleidoscopic without being eclectic, deeply heavy without being plodding, manages to maintain peaks of airiness and psychedelic mysticism without losing the plot. just an amazing record.

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:43 (one week ago) link

\m/

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:43 (one week ago) link


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