I LOVE DRUKQS+

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yeah i'm into drukqs but dont see the need for the second disc. kniow why that is? cos i havent listened to it basically. but the first one is well good. i fucking love the 7th track on the 1st cd, but its on 2.30 long! fuck that, its so lush!

oh well. that always happens to me. AND it bloody fades out, so is pretty hard to mix with.

ambrose, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i wonder if druckqs will be one of those albums that gradually gets the kudos and props that weren't there initially, until, one day, it is described as a classic (probably around the time of the next release, when people will say "man this, shit is just druckqs redux, now that was a cool lp"???

me? well, thanks for asking, i'm flattered. i thought it was, mm, ok, on release, but i've warmed to it gradually. i like it, theres a lot of it, you know, it probably takes a while to navigate your path (not discubumerate ya technique okay???). so, yeh, i'm lost now, sorry bout that. look, i'm just trying to say its a Geogaddi cousin, thats all

gareth, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ned, you're NOT gonna say you like the last record????

Not this again. ;-) Both Dan and I think it is very wonderful, thank you. Yay us!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, drukqs is great! Not enough progress? Baloney. Just one example: the prepared-piano tracks are more of a departure than most artists attempt on a new album.

o. nate, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Drukqs is overlong, no doubt, but I do think there's a pretty fair amount of progression in it. Basically, he doesn't let beats speed off into space like on Richard D. James, sort of forcing himself to wrap all those warp-speed breaks back into the rhythm.

Andy, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"I think if a musical career lasts long enough, "bad progress" is almost inevitable" ---- What about David Bowie, super long career with all good progress.

A Nairn, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i really wish Mogwai would progress from being one of those bands with skips full of potential to a band capable of greatness.

and, no, they do not nessecitate the same thing.

Wyndham Earl, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
I still love drukqs too.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i've obviously jumped on the ilm bandwagon about 4 years late. wilco used to be revered here!

and yeah, i like drukqs too

was actually my favourite until i was told i should be liking the 'ambient' stuff more.

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too, I love it.

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Drukqs is kinda shitty.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

And you should be liking the "ambient" shit more.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It suffered from not having a coherent direction. I did dig the piano jams tho, the other stuff not so much...

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if people's reaction to Drukqs depends on how much of an Aphex fanboy they were when they first heard it? i.e. those who were waiting with bated breath were more likely to be disappointed.

For me, it's got plenty of good things but it's the least interesting of the "proper" studio albums, no doubt.

It's Tough to Beat Illious (noodle vague), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I started liking it after some review pointed out that there is something coherent in there, piano things, typically followed by more typical Aphex things (or at least stuff a bit like RDJ), followed by thing that sound a bit like Japanese temple sort of stuff, like Nanou 2, for example. This isn't exact, but it did make me like it more, for whatever reason.

I pretty much thought it was shite when it came out.

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's pretty exact! Noisy beats followed by short prepared piano piece and repeat. It works for me.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah this cd is good it goes in headphone rotation probly every 3-4 months for the past 5 years

and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i havent heard summer teeth since i was in h.s. but it soundtracked alot of good times with friends, im sure its still pretty good

and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

luff dis album (drukqs). prefer the tonality of the prprd. disklavier pieces to the prepared piano pieces of cage.

held tony (held tony), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

there is a good cohesion in the sequence of tracks, but unsure that it's not just a result of being familiar w/the album. it has a natural flow

held tony (held tony), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually just put the ambient/treated piano tracks on my ipod when I ripped it. To me that's a fantastic album and the one he should have really released. If it'd been like some of the Analord stuff I'd have had more patience but it would've still added little to what would've been a very coherent album for him.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Thursday, 8 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"I wonder if people's reaction to Drukqs depends on how much of an Aphex fanboy they were when they first heard it? i.e. those who were waiting with bated breath were more likely to be disappointed."

I got into Aphex Twin way late and sorta heard everything all at once. Drukqs struck me as the best. It's still my favorite.

Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i find drukqs to be his most listenable album.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Thursday, 8 February 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

hey yeah i never got all the drukqs hate when it came out. i thought there was a lot more going on in/with the drill tracks on drukqs than on richard d. james, and the prepared stuff is fantastic. i'm kinda meh on aphex in general though--love 'i care because you do,' squelchy early stuff, SAW 85-92, don't care for SAWII or richard d. james. i might pull out drukqs right now; it's probably been five years since i've heard it.

plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i think drukqs suffered from a critical short-circuit

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Drukqs is every bit as unlistenable as Metal Machine Music.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you heard the entire album?

Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

and the race to post on the wit & wisdom thread begins

and what (ooo), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, besides the piano bits of course. Those are lovely.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I was a fanboy from 92 and I thought the quality of releases had been going down for a while when it came out. It has some good bits, particularly the piano stuff which is still great and some of the drill stuff was actually pretty good.

but... the drill stuff was already getting kinda old when this came out and he was looking to end his relationship with warp. I found the analord stuff actually pretty good and at least had a bit of a new direction.

hector (hector), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i like metal machine music.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

I keep replaying "Avril 14." Is the rest of the album this good?

Tape Store, Sunday, 21 October 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i finally picked this up a couple weeks ago. it's a bit of an inconsistent album, but i think there's some great stuff on it. i've not yet really digested disc 2 (which seems a little spottier) but disc 1 is excellent.

it kind of got trashed, it seems, when it was first released, but i'm quite happy i finally picked it up. it's a lot better than some of those early reviews made it out to be.

Mark Clemente, Sunday, 21 October 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Tape Store, it's his most complete album, however it was let down by the fact it came out about 4 years too late. Rather than a huge stylistic leap, it's a sprawling double album that concentrates on refining what he had been doing since 1996, so to seasoned fans who expected another wacky twist in the ongoing Aphex saga, they were to be disappointed. It has an awful lot of material, some of it excellent and a lot of it, well, awful. But that was always the idea with Aphex I suppose. It was never about being polished and more about the fun ideas. Throw it at a wall and see if it sticks, and if it doesn't chuck it in the pot anyway.

the next grozart, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

"54 Cymru Beats" is one of his all-time best.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

The stretch between "vordhosbn" and "Afx237 V7" is great, but after that I usually turn it off or skip 7 tracks

robertwolf8080, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

You can makea a dinky 60 minute cut by ripping out all the whoops-I-left-the-tape-running moments.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 22 October 2007 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

grozart's response intrigues me; I'm going to buy this.

Tape Store, Monday, 22 October 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

"Avril 14th" is like the best soundtrack piece Jon Brion never wrote.

jaymc, Sunday, 10 August 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i love drukqs

Creeztophair, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i wonder if druckqs will be one of those albums that gradually gets the kudos and props that weren't there initially, until, one day, it is described as a classic (probably around the time of the next release, when people will say "man this, shit is just druckqs redux, now that was a cool lp"???

― gareth, Monday, March 11, 2002 8:00 PM

^^

am0n, Saturday, 5 September 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

miss gareth :(

ian, Sunday, 6 September 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmm, I just noticed that my copy of "Druckqs" has a parental advisory sticker on it. What am I missing?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

It has a song called "Cock", no other reason really.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Which I guess makes Richard James the only other act besides Frank Zappa (at least that I can think of) to get a parental advisory notice stuck on an instrumental release.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a swear on one of the tracks I think?

Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah 'Cock/Ver10' has the word "cunt" on it

braveclub, Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah. All I could hear in my head was the Squarepusher track with "I'm the fucking daddy" on it.

Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Jeez I bought my copy from Warp and I actually have a sticker somewhere that says "Come On You Cunt Let's Have Some Aphex Acid"

Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

I have just bought this album again, and am about to listen to it for only the second time in 10 years.

It's just become such a "thing," my fear of this album. I think I'm such a different person and have such different tastes in music and different expectations that it will be interesting for me to see how my reactions to it have changed.

The Curve Of Binding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link

You mean you weren't intimately familiar with the cinematic work containing the "Fantasia, having a party is not my idea of a fantasy..." dialogue? (j/k)

Actually no, is it a grumbleflick or something? TBH, I don't listen to that album much... Lots of people love it, and I actually listened to it yesterday for the first time in a long time—there are some great moments, but I find it a bit of a stepping stone... The abrasive bits are just too abrasive; he hasn't quite yet worked out compelling percussion; too much in the way of 'classical' pretence, but as I say, lots of people love it, and I do think it contains some great moments; I also suspect it was a necessary step.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:18 (three weeks ago) link

I do love it, it's my favorite – but it's also the first one of his that I heard/got into (and I think it often works out that way...)

Here's the (sfw) sample source for the dialogue.

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:23 (three weeks ago) link

Hehe, right.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

Listening to RDJ Album now; it's so warm and inviting, more than I even remembered. "To Cure..." / "Goon Gumpas" is such a terrific pair.

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:58 (three weeks ago) link

Yes, it isn't a difficult listen. I listened to it twice tonight given the chat, and am still amazed how great it is.

Here is Goon Gumpas in Cornwall:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Goon_Gumpas_from_Wheal_Maid_DSC_2951.jpg

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:06 (three weeks ago) link

UK version feels incomplete to me, ending on "Logan Rock Witch"... had to search for the EP to complete the trip I'm used to.

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:14 (three weeks ago) link

I guess it's what you're used to.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:16 (three weeks ago) link

I used to consider I Care Because You Do as AFX's zenith, but now feel it's the RDJ/Come To Daddy/Windowlicker records, which all feel "of a piece" to me.

xp from Confield discussion above - 100% OTM with the "we weren't ready for it yet" sentiments lol. It's extremely musical when compared to say Untilted, and so infinitely less weird and self indulgent than 1/3 of NTS or Elseq.

octobeard, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:18 (two weeks ago) link

the first three tracks of ICBYD are definitely a zenith of some kind

default damager (lukas), Friday, 29 March 2024 00:36 (two weeks ago) link

^^word

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Friday, 29 March 2024 00:37 (two weeks ago) link

yes yes yes

brimstead, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:45 (two weeks ago) link

Having been an Aphex admirer since purchasing the _Analogue Bubblebath_ 12", I have to say that my enthusiasm was somewhat lessened by hearing "Milkman". I really can't be doing with that kind of puerile guff.

While there’s obviously something, I dunno, Ween-coded about “Milk Man,” the song is such a banger… those beats skittering on top of the melodic swells; synths chiming out that simple little melody; and those goofy, charming bass drops… There is obviously a very specific sort of take-the-piss artistic intent behind – “I’m gonna make these lyrics as dumb as possible” – but damn if it doesn’t work!

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Friday, 29 March 2024 04:38 (two weeks ago) link

(for me, anyway)

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Friday, 29 March 2024 04:38 (two weeks ago) link

Ween has a lot of Aphex-coded tracks too so I'd say the feeling was mutual

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2024 04:45 (two weeks ago) link

> PEEK 824545201

a lot of the cheat codes in magazines at the time POKEd 201 (RET in z80) into memory to terminate routines before lives were decremented. but you are right that PEEK is lookup and even 824545 is way too large for a 16 bit address space (65536 bytes)

(i can't remember the day of the week sometimes but i do still remember random z80 opcodes. 205 call, 195 jmp...)

koogs, Friday, 29 March 2024 08:11 (two weeks ago) link

morrisp OTM

octobeard, Friday, 29 March 2024 08:46 (two weeks ago) link

Koogs OTM

Keith, Friday, 29 March 2024 09:02 (two weeks ago) link

"PEEK 824545201" is a missed opportunity. He could have named it so as to perform a public service. For example, POKE 59901,82 fixes the Attic Bug.

Vast Halo, Friday, 29 March 2024 09:42 (two weeks ago) link

Haha

Keith, Friday, 29 March 2024 09:51 (two weeks ago) link

Beautiful classical guitar version of Avril 14 on Shane Parish's forthcoming album.

https://shaneparish.bandcamp.com/album/repertoire

Composition 40b (Stew), Friday, 29 March 2024 12:03 (two weeks ago) link

okay I got RDJ Album on now, it's still very freaky, just pure cartoon alien shit. or maybe music for the little mushroom guys. I like how he's sampling so many "small" sounds like water drops or tapping on coke cans, and even household objects like his modem (I think?), but then in spots it'll suddenly go all orchestral. especially like the last track having all those percussive instruments in it, obviously can't be done in your bedroom with your machines. so it feels big and very small at the same time. it does still sound good but not as good as his 21st Century stuff. "Peek" always makes me feel like I have sinus pain.

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2024 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah would agree it's not as good as the newer stuff, but it is still great, and it was a big step (well, that and Hangable Autobulb)—I guess it's a bit like Revolver is clear big step, but whilst they're both great, I like listening to Abbey Road more.

Keith, Friday, 29 March 2024 20:56 (two weeks ago) link

That analogy perfectly explains our respective taste differences. I'm a Revolver >>> Abbey Road guy and put it on far more often.

octobeard, Sunday, 31 March 2024 07:40 (two weeks ago) link

I like how minimal and 'in the box'it feels even though it's totally maximalist. I'd compare it to Autechre's LP5 in that respect

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Sunday, 31 March 2024 10:22 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I get this, I find it amazing how spacey some of it is, given how much he seems to jam into every track.

Another thing I love about Aphex Twin is how every time I want some more stuff, you just kind of Google around and he seems to have squeezed at least another LP's worth of stuff out there. Currently listening to Oslo 2 +6.1, which is an unreleased track off of Rushup Edge and it's great; in fact, it might be better than most of the stuff on the actual release.

Keith, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:56 (one week ago) link

Wow, [S770SCI 3000,powertran] beautiful Japanese people might be one of his best.

Keith, Thursday, 11 April 2024 20:30 (one week ago) link


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