russell brand - C or D?

Russel Brand atm is holding both #1 and #2 positions in the US box office (hop & arthur respectively)

does dude ever not yell

The more I hear people bang on about kindles, the more I think I fucked up by getting a sony reader, even tho I do love it and think it's awesome. The lack of wifi fills me with jealousy. And it suffers even worse than the kindle in the makes-you-look-a-twat stakes.

wrong thread?

rue sold brand

there is that aspect, yes.

eek. wrong thread! such a berk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qdNBrzAQjo&feature=player_embedded

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122017344

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/11/london-riots-davidcameron

Seriously, why should we give a toss what this fey idiot thinks about the riots?

"For one thing, policemen are generally pretty good fighters and second, it registered that the accent they shouted at me with was closer to my own than that of some of those singing about the red flag making the wall of plastic shields between us seem thinner."

Really? I cannot picture the members of the met sounding like music-hall fop. "You're under arrest, ooh me winkie's a right bad 'un"

Can't stand the guy, does it show?

Fops, plural.

i suppose what he meant, and what you know he meant, was that generally a lot of far-leftists are posh cunts while polis are more likely to be working class.

I know what he meant, was just trying to get a dig in. All the "expert" comentary gets me down. Actually my brother trained as a stage actor and is now in the met, so he may well patrol in a music hall manner, lol hoisted by my own petard, or rather my brother's.

I really liked him when he was hosting BBBM, but then I saw his real persona in interviews (oh oh I know everything there is to know about the aaaaaart of comedy oh oh) and went right the fuck off him.

http://i.imgur.com/FTvsx.jpg

Perrin blown away by Brand onstage:

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2012/02/brand-oh.html

http://gawker.com/russell-brand-destroys-msnbc-talk-show-host-for-treatin-513992493?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Apparently, this happened...

I watched it yesterday and was like huh, that was not really as exciting as the headline made it sound. Couple funny moments though.

yeah otm. my boss sent it to me and was all "oh this is brilliant" and i expected a lot more - it's just a bit rambling and weird.

I don't really know how that show normally goes.

Being 'rambling and weird' (in his sort of fairly strained and uninteresting version of weird) is what he does though isn't it? I don't hate the guy but I've never got his appeal either.

Obv. this sort of (US) TV show is not the usual forum for his shtick though. When did he start dressing like David Essex?

they call him willy and the one dude says, "yeah, i really can't understand this guy when he talks"! i'm not sure what he was supposed to do with that, even if he had attempted to play along. it's not artie on joe buck but he went in on them.

i never got the appeal either but recently i really sort of liked him on norm macdonald's show. the concept of his new show, which he got a chance to explain to norm, sounded horrible, though.

i did not realise until this thing broke that in the US it isn't considered rude to refer to someone who's in front of you by a third-person pronoun rather than addressing them directly.

to me that reads like a definite slight - and so doing it in what's ostensibly an interview would feel like a public insult, and pretty... humiliating?

but if it's not rude in American culture then it must seem like he is throwing a strop about nothing.

Calling him Willy Brandt was sort of funny. I mean, it is easy to get the two of them confused right?

Good Bundesrepublik skillz

xxp: I dunno. It would depend on context. In this case, it seems pretty rude to me.

yeah he was surprisingly good natured here imo? i'd have probably got the raving hump if i was in that situation

the third person pronoun thing was just part of the entire package. what was his response supposed to be when the one guy started riffing on how he couldn't understand brand on the radio but he was fairly comprehensible in person?

All of the hosts seem kinda high.

By which I'm trying to not say "dumb".

how could it not be rude in any place to speak about someone as an object of idle curiositity while in their presence

I think that that one woman was calling him 'he' because she was clearly unsure of his name. She tentatively called him Willy at one point cos obviously the subject of German reunification had been weighing heavily on her mind, but then she reverted to 'he' again after that. So I think it was more awkwardness due to that than it was bad manners.

That would make sense if Mika hadn't emphatically introduced him at the beginning of the segment.

Third person in front you was considered rude as hell when I was growing up in the states, but I am old and from good stock.

Come on, surely that's considered rude in the US. I've never heard otherwise.

Well, I mean, there are certain contexts where it might not be, but I think in those cases, it would not be rude in the UK either.

As far as what passes for rude in the US -- this wasn't in the US, it was in TV. Cable TV. Morning "news."

morning "joe"

the guy named joe wasn't even there. if that IS his real name.

I saw this. It's pretty good toward the end when he does an imitation of the inane discussion style of these cable news talk shows, but most of it is just rambling. I could do without the come-ons too, but I guess it's as good a way as any as disrupting the show and throwing people off their guard, which is the point. Whoever that guy was (I guess it's not Scarborough? I've never watched the show) seems like a moron.

iirc the dude brought up russell's chest display before he brought up mika's, and her degree of swooning was pretty priceless. just seemed like your standard amusing enough russell brand talk show appearance to me, but i guess maybe people aren't used to his shtick

or maybe they're more familiar with your standard morning joe episode than i am and laughing at the atypical madness

Dunno anything about this show, but that clip implied it was being simulcast on the radio? That might explain the third person/what he looks like stuff.

it kind of seemed like the morning joe hosts weren't very well prepared for his schtick

I think Brand has become something of a hero in the last year or two. He openly acknowledges what an insecurity-driven twat he used to be and I think he's genuinely trying to be good. His, um, cultural contributions have been notably improved as well - he's not a bad writer and if he took himself more seriously I think he could even be a very good one.

His FX show is awful. He'll have a grain of a funny insight here and there and just bury it with babble.

yeah it helps that I read his articles but mostly avoid his TV appearances

"Any of you who know a little bit about history and fashion will know that Hugo Boss made the uniforms for the Nazis," Brand reportedly said at the podium. "The Nazis did have flaws, but, you know, they did look f--king fantastic, let's face it, while they were killing people on the basis of their religion and sexuality."

http://www.eonline.com/news/455738/russell-brand-defends-hugo-boss-nazi-jokes-at-gq-men-of-the-year-awards

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201385/rs_560x415-130905113450-560.russell-brand-tweet.cm.9513.jpg