GROUPER "Way Their Crept" --- CONTACT

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at twice the price of everywhere else?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 17 April 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i have been scanning for these non-stop but damn.

Turtle: No dancing (schlump), Sunday, 17 April 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

It's VT. And you gotta add postage to that too.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 17 April 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Was she selling the new album at the show last night? I'm going to see her tonight and I'm wondering if I should bring extra $$$ for the album...

jonathan - stl, Sunday, 17 April 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

but, dearest brooklyn scenesters, why would you go to a grouper show . . . and talk the whole way through it? ugh

yeah, can't stand this shit.

original bgm, Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

look forward to hearing this...love grouper.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Keenan's VT review is spot-on. These are both incredible albums. I think "Dream Loss" is my favorite of the two, but I'd be surprised if I hear anything else this year that tops either. Such desolate, haunting music...

Professor Respect, Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

they kind of feel like weird enya albums.

j., Sunday, 17 April 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Was she selling the new album at the show last night?

nope. at the merch table they told me the only place that has them is Other Music

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 18 April 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

That's lame. Touring off a new album(s) and not being able to sell it at your own show because it's so damn limited? I know it's available digitally but WTF

Z S, Monday, 18 April 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

at twice the price of everywhere else?

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, April 17, 2011 Bookmark

Yep, that is pretty pricey.

Before they stopped taking orders the records were £28 delivered to the UK direct from Mississippi.

Barnaby, Hardly, Monday, 18 April 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

damn. i think boomkat's waiting on some, so i neurotically re-visit the site; i wondered if the reason VT's were so expensive had to do with them somehow getting them before anyone else but, even still, y'know.

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Monday, 18 April 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

If you're feeling really neurotic you can subscribe to an RSS feed of Boomkat's new vinyl which they are extremely proficient at updating. They've added 15 new arrivals already today.

Barnaby, Hardly, Monday, 18 April 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Volcanic Tongue ALWAYS charge way more than everyone else. Why do you think david keenan is so hated?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

that sounds more like an open subthread than a direct question. i don't really know.
thanks for the RSS tip; knew they were on top of tracking what was coming in but it's helpful. sorry i am making this thread so boring, i will talk about the records, provided i get hold of some.

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to Dream Loss right now and I'm struck by the effortless flow of the songs, they just drift into each other.
This is very blurry and distant. I like it but I don't see myself listening to it compulsively. It's just so detached.

Trip Maker, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

up on forcedexposure fyi

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Monday, 18 April 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, emailed aquarius records and they had copies as well.

original bgm, Monday, 18 April 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

some copies around the corner from aquarius, too, at EXPLORIST INTERNATIONAL: http://www.exploristinternational.com/blog

theyll do mailorder!

69, Monday, 18 April 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I checked Forced Exposure, Aquarius and Explorist's websites now... are they all gone already? Because I can't find it.

Future Debts Collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 06:38 (twelve years ago) link

Thank you!!! :-)

Future Debts Collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

Copies for sale up on Thrill Jockey too... http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=105356

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

wau, outta stock already at that link?
pretty sure this is worth picking up ASAP; boomkat are getting fifty e-mails a day about it

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, they were still in stock when I last looked.

This place has them, apparently: http://zum.bigcartel.com/

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

it is available to buy digitally tho right?

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if limited mp3 release will become a thing/is a thing

y'huh though, via boomkat etc??

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

is there a "best of grouper" collection i could purchase also (nb, digitally)

x-post cool...

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

Alien Observer is up on Spotify as well fwiw

ridic beau (NickB), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder what the thinking was behind the decision to not press enough to meet demand? Cos it strikes me as being conscious rather than cautious.

I mean, DDD is now on its third repress.

Anyhow, Weird Forest will have some on sale tonight...

"WF HQ received a VERY LIMITED quantity of the new Grouper A I A LPs. So few that they would sell out before everyone on the mailing list received this message. In the interest of fairness, I will post them for sale on the Weird Forest website at 7pm (pacific time) tomorrow (Tues 4/19). I apologize in advance for any disappointment but there were not enough records to go around."

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp to ronan, ya, it's on itunes

caek, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link

wonder what the thinking was behind the decision to not press enough to meet demand? Cos it strikes me as being conscious rather than cautious.

do you think? ehh. i kinda saw it more as an obliviousness. that there are also provisions for another press based on demand doesn't make it seem like a kinda fetishisation-of-the-limited thing.

one of the weird things that comes up re: this & mississippi is where the boundary lies between, a), pressing a bunch of records and selling them being a personal project, that one can take control of and do according to your own terms, versus b), there being an obligation to provide for the market and meet demand, etc. there are a lot of records that have come out (the first nite jewel & zola jesus LPs, say) in the past few years where the vinyl has disappeared & never come back, even while LPs go for crazy money on ebay. i sorta think that keeping stuff in circulation, repressing if there's enough demand, etc, means that you should be able to print something up according to your own specs without being called out for being small-scale or exclusive or whatever. i can see how doing it on a handmade basis, albeit in smaller numbers, and maintaining control, is worth some of the awkwardness of not necessarily meeting demand.

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

like: there is always a lot of fuck mississippi etc, but why shouldn't you be able to open a store and do your best to make and distro some lps?

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

do you think? ehh. i kinda saw it more as an obliviousness. that there are also provisions for another press based on demand doesn't make it seem like a kinda fetishisation-of-the-limited thing.

I can totally see this side too.

I guess I was just angling at the fact that it felt to me like this (relative) level of demand could have been anticipated and that there must have been other factors at play. Perhaps financial ones relating to the size of the pressing they could afford for instance.

And being that this is a private press I want the money to get to her you know? I want her to be able to meet demands and sell and sell so she can afford to keep making music.

But as you say, there's another run coming so my conjecture is moot anyhow!

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

Ordered a copy from Forced Exposure but have doubts it will actually ship. Don't mind buying digital as long as it's FLAC.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Ordered a copy from Forced Exposure and specified a zip code of a town I lived in a year ago, rather than where I am now. It still says "processing" so ideally they get my corrections (there's no way to specify it on their webstore) before they go out (if they go out at all). I will go ahead and say that this has been a bit of a hassle (and I'm not making things better by participating).

rope (lloydwabbitt), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

album doesn't turn up in forced exposure's search anymore, plus my account now shows no open or shipped orders. so that's the end of that adventure.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

hey hazel i do not really understand your posts but they are freaking me out, disrupting the serenity that descended after ordering a copy of this & stopping worrying about it all. doesn't your account just say being processed or whatever?, since that was the state it would've been in before? that it's disappeared from the site seems more like a good sign than a bad one.

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

nope, my account shows no orders whatsoever, although I have an email from them with an order number. didn't mean to panic you. I'd like to hear it sooner rather than later, but if there's going to be a repress, I won't die.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

but what about the rest of us

but

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

Weird FE stuff. I got an email saying it has shipped ups. I didn't use the beta site btw.

last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

that's a good point, the beta site is a beta site. some weirdness could be expected.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

Weird Forest has them up right now for those who haven't got em yet

last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

they had them up for about six seconds.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

My FE order just says "ON HOLD / Awaiting Restocks" now. So I'm pretty sure that's the end of that.

rope (lloydwabbitt), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link

^^ Same here, sadly.

I appreciate limited releases of an artist like Grouper, who controls her own output, but this is rather ridiculous. Scouring the internet, going to music websites where the records are up only a minute or so before they're all gone... Hugely frustrating.

Future Debts Collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

The chase was thrilling but unsuccessful, so I torrented it. When it's easier to buy, I'll buy it. Boomkat has FLACs, but I'm not paying $26 for a download.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

Are you kidding me? $26 for a fucking download?

last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

That's for two albums I assume, but still.

last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

Don't hate Boomkat too much, the exchange rate is what makes it so high.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link


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