HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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the tra-la-la-la-la high fantasy stuff was a bit out of control. the stupid dothraki wedding looked like it was dreamed up by a 13-year old with a boner and a bad understanding of sex.

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:58 (nine years ago) link

I'm not sure if you can fault the show for that though, it was pretty faithful to the description in the book. I mean, if you are objecting to the way it was shot or whatever, fair play, but I don't get people faulting the show for staying faithful to the source material.

"it was like that in the book" isn't an excuse for a film version sucking

there are many ways that scene could've been shot, and the way they decided to go was cheeeeze

Thats why I was asking, I was trying to understand why it bugged remy. The concept in general?

conceptually there isn't anything wrong w/ a timid girl getting thrown into the midst of a savage culture, but the execution here was laughable

i agree with edward the concept is fine – in the book i'm okay with with the dothraki. in the pilot, there were certain editorial decisions w/r/t importance of various salacious bits that took precedence over what i would value in a good story. i.e. the ... lingering on the sexiness (for the sake of sexiness) rather than as indicative of the power relationships between dany, vis, and drogo. i mean, the whole incesty boob-grab played as soft-focus porny rather than upsetting and manipulative.

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:47 (nine years ago) link

i agree with edward that the concept is fine.

they call him (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:48 (nine years ago) link

i think the wedding was even worse than the rave in the 2nd matrix movie as far as dionysian nerd fantasies go

adam, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:49 (nine years ago) link

get the feeling daenerys wasn't cast based on acting chops either, it's like the director said "you're forlorn eye candy, ACTION"

^^^^

otm

now step into the tub slowly

It was funny the way the camera panned down at one point specifically so her whole ass would be in the frame.

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:22 (nine years ago) link

yeah I know..that whole sequence was weird

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:25 (nine years ago) link

"Guys, guys, that's only 75% ass. The contract specifically calls for a 100 at all times."

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2ldkuj4.jpg

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:34 (nine years ago) link

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

He is the cutest - those ears!

I think I actually saw "awwwwwwww" out loud at that point.

I want one.

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:52 (nine years ago) link

err said "awwwwwwwww" not saw "aawwwwwwww"

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:57 (nine years ago) link

it was like in one of those cartoons when the character hits his head and sees stars, except you were so stricken by the cuteness that you saw awwwws.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:03 (nine years ago) link

pretty much otm

ENBB, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:04 (nine years ago) link

When he was climbing the wall I kept wondering why they built the castle for Assassin's Creed specifications.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:04 (nine years ago) link

it wasn't great but will watch a few more before damning it completely.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:20 (nine years ago) link

supposedly it gets (even) better

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah like...if you watch six seasons of the sopranos or whatev the first few are always a bit shonky.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:37 (nine years ago) link

idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show. it's more of a preview/prologue type of episode where all the pieces are put into place. not that that is a particularly bad idea -- the world they're playing with is much much larger than the one of the sopranos.

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:39 (nine years ago) link

Yes, but in this case they have the added responsibility of a viewership that already knows the entire contents of this season of planned plot developments. I can understand how that makes a tough balance between keeping the allegiances of the readers and drawing in new HBO viewers. That is not a comfortable seat, all in all.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:18 (nine years ago) link

dude is a perv tbh

I agree, but I think he may have more of a pregnancy fetish than anything else. At least that's what I get from the books.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:23 (nine years ago) link

That wolf pup is CGI, right?

calstars, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:03 (nine years ago) link

NNOOOOOO they used sled-dog puppies.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:09 (nine years ago) link

Those ears are 100% REAL, AND THEY ARE GLORIOUS.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:10 (nine years ago) link

^^^^^

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:12 (nine years ago) link

idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show. it's more of a preview/prologue type of episode where all the pieces are put into place. not that that is a particularly bad idea -- the world they're playing with is much much larger than the one of the sopranos.

One of the articles linked above talks about the move away from episodic television altogether on HBO. The Sopranos and Deadwood both establish a lot about their central characters in the first episodes, and they're still fairly episodic in nature to give a full story, which GoT doesn't really do except some broad character strokes. Still, those shows took 3 or 4 episodes to really show their stuff ("College" and "Here Was A Man" are the ones usually cited).

I don't think GoT will be nearly as good as either of those, but it looks to be pretty entertaining once it gets going. Also, pretty much everything I've read says the pilot is the worst of the first 6.

Agreed about the nudity, though I think the brother-groping scene is a bit more pervy than you're giving it credit for. Certainly the final scene with her and the new husband is played for violation-by-the-Other discomfort.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:51 (nine years ago) link

i think the wedding was even worse than the rave in the 2nd matrix movie as far as dionysian nerd fantasies go

― adam, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:49 (Yesterday)

the angry, grunty dry humping was fucking HILARIOUS.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:52 (nine years ago) link

I agree, but I think he may have more of a pregnancy fetish than anything else. At least that's what I get from the books.

so i started re-reading the first book last night and there have already been at like three references to someone's seed quickening in someone else's womb or whatever so you may be on to something.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 07:15 (nine years ago) link

For those wondering about Theon, he apparently does come into a lot more in the first six episodes. I reckon he'll have an awesome payoff in the books down the line as well.

― Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 09:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark

ha ha ha

idk, sopranos seem like a big exception to that rule. episode one is still a defining thematic episode. that's one thing reviewers have pointed out about the thrones pilot that i think is otm. there's no particular scene that really pulls together the major themes of the show.

― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 00:39 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

errrr did they skip the execution? because that's pretty much the whole thing there, I gotta say

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:17 (nine years ago) link

Why the laugh?

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:23 (nine years ago) link

errrr did they skip the execution? because that's pretty much the whole thing there, I gotta say

i think the execution says a lot about that particular family and that particular people living in the north, but didn't really seem to speak to the exiled king or the real party king or any of the other groups. which idk having not read the book i can't comment with any authority.

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:29 (nine years ago) link

= 'these are the sorts of bad decisions that acting honourably leads you to'

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:39 (nine years ago) link

I think there's also the pressure on those who DO act honorably to make even become even more vigilant/observant when standards seem to be loosening all around them -- ex Robert's slack court in the South. The whole world is putting N. Stark in this position, and he's becoming more alone every day.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (nine years ago) link

(Sorry about the mis-read there, was revising in a hurry.)

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (nine years ago) link

yo thomp...

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:43 (nine years ago) link

i think it's funny that, at this point, anyone would have any faith in george r.r. martin's ability to plot a novel in a way that would result in any kind of satisfying experience for the reader

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:49 (nine years ago) link

Ah right, you may have a point there.

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:50 (nine years ago) link

at this point -- you mean one episode in (and it gets better) or you mean considering the corpus of material he's already written?

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:51 (nine years ago) link

alllll my wolves stay real
stark don't think these political deals
gonna feed your seeds
and pay your bills because they not

(xxp)

c( ☠_ ☠ )ↄ (Lamp), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:53 (nine years ago) link

George got a little bit of love and thinks's he's hot

Number None, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:55 (nine years ago) link

mordy, sorry, that was in response to the thing about whether it will turn out in book five, six, or seven that theon has some reason for having been there

thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:36 (nine years ago) link

hey guess what

http://images.hitfix.com/photos/503754/game-of-thrones-daenerys_article_story_main.jpg

winter is busting a nut all or ya face

dearth of the hipster (Lamp), Thursday, 21 April 2011 00:42 (nine years ago) link

That photo is the wrong color, on the tv her hair is a woolly yellow-blond that looks like someone hid the undyed roots with cornstarch and powder bleach. I'll be delighted, though, when the character gets to a place where she makes that resolute a face ALL the time.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:20 (nine years ago) link

sarah connor IS cersei lannister

calstars, Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:51 (nine years ago) link

Sky Atlantic fan show (probably not for people who already know the books and stuff, it's pretty beginner-y... might be of interest? It's an iTunes podcast, too):
http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/

Walter Galt, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:38 (nine years ago) link


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