I HATE APPLE

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The two cited reasons I've seen were both related to quality control and the white paint. Apparently the appearance was so-so, and the original batch had an issue where light could actually leak through the paint and cause the proximity sensors to malfunction. Or so they claimed.

mh, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

From Apple's Phil Schiller:

"It was challenging," Apple senior vice president Phil Schiller said during a joint interview with CEO Steve Jobs on Wednesday. "It's not as simple as making something white. There's a lot more that goes into both the material science of it - how it holds up over time... but also in how it all works with the sensors."

mh, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i would imagine that white shows stress cracks more over time. w/black you don't see it.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

That mlb.tv crap is STILL all over my Apple TV. Not impressed.

staph white pulvules like (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like if you buy a bag of carrots and it goes carrot-carrot-carrot-carrot-JUSTIN BIEBER DOLL-carrot-carrot

staph white pulvules like (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.macstories.net/news/inside-apple-reveals-steve-jobs-anecdotes-apples-little-known-facts/

hey everybody, guess what, steve jobs is a control freak

also apple is going to shit after jobs leaves

a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Monday, 9 May 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

Not surprised by the MobileMe hiding tbh, that thing was a disaster.

staph white pulvules like (Schlafsack), Monday, 9 May 2011 06:33 (twelve years ago) link

I imagine anybody executive who fails gets the Darth Vader treatment a la empire strikes back

a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Monday, 9 May 2011 06:34 (twelve years ago) link

i am going to go out later today to see if the new issue of fortune w/ the big apple story is out

\(^o^)/

also, the new new yorker has an article about pixar in it. i might get that too

markers, Monday, 9 May 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

you can get it on your ipad, nerd.

shaane, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:26 (twelve years ago) link

shaame

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

full disclosure: i had the same two thoughts

shaane, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

thats what external drives are for i guess. as a mbp user i have 3 external drives - 1 500GB, 1 1TB and I just got a new 1TB. its pretty ridiculous but it does get you in the habit of saving your docs externally so if the thing dies im not going to cry over lost data.

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

i should back stuff up one tof these days.

akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

nothing shocking in that macstories / fortune article to me, that just sounds like how a successful company should be run, frankly.

akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Really need to stop listening to Gruber's podcast. This week he "doesn't get" why a Google Chromebook costs $20 a month to rent, he's "never heard" of the iFlow iPhone app and he's "really surprised" Steve Ballmer is still CEO of Microsoft. Co-host Dan Benjamin "doesn't get" how you copy music onto an Android phone. It's amazing how these technological savants managed to adapt to iOs after being raised on Macs.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 06:53 (twelve years ago) link

Gruber is a zombie best ignored. If ever he announces anything of worth all the tech sites pass it on anyway.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 07:05 (twelve years ago) link

Daring Fireball is still in my RSS feed (mainly cuz it mostly consists of quickly read one-liners) but yeah it's getting increasingly cringeworthy

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 07:35 (twelve years ago) link

It's just told-ya-so posturing and a level of arrogance that makes Jobs look humble.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 07:44 (twelve years ago) link

i have my first appointment with a genius tomorrow. hard drive died. i've already replaced it myself, but i want them to pay for the new drive, so i'm putting the dead one back in for my genius date. i think this is actually my first hardware problem in the post apple store era. any tips for getting what i want given i know the problem and fix?

caek, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 07:47 (twelve years ago) link

Dan benjamin's even worse imo

stet, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 10:27 (twelve years ago) link

make goo goo eyes at the genius xp

THAT'S LIGHTWEIGHT DICKERY (dayo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

(x-post)

How long did your hard drive last? I've got a 4 year old iMac that I'm dreading dragging to the Genius desk when the HD fails. (I'm a pedestrian)

Bob Six, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

9 months?

love it when a paranoid backup strategy comes together. mechanical hard drives are like parking on the hard shoulder imo.

caek, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

Not too sure how the long-term life of SSDs is going to pan out, either. Lots of reports of failures from people using them in servers, so maybe there'll be a rash of laptop SSD deaths in a few years.

stet, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

I've encoded all my data into a vat of self replicating DNA

THAT'S LIGHTWEIGHT DICKERY (dayo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks to threads like this I have min. two backups of everything now. Where travel photos are concerned I've put in place redundancy up the goona — two backups at home, one in the spare room, one in the car and one at the wife's office. Six copies, not counting highlights on the ipad, P's facebook &c.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ knows what's up

didn't know that about SSD hds. they were my great hope.

caek, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

ive thought about making an I HATE JOHN GRUBER thread many times.. the dude is so fucking insufferable. someone needs to make an rss feed that strips out any of his commentary and just passes on his links

not@home> ░ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

And yet we're all still reading DF...

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

I unsubscribed last year sometime, but I enjoy watching you guys grouse about it.

mh, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

I unsubscribed last year sometime, but I enjoy watching you guys grouse about it.

To be fair though, I agree with him about Ballmer being a plague on Microsoft.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea what kind of leader Microsoft needs, although Ballmer is probably not it.

mh, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

I would kind of be a total moron to buy an iPhone 4 right now if I have a 3gs, right?

I recognize this, but keep telling myself I could probably resell it and buy yet another phone at the end of the year if I felt it necessary.

mh, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/green-day-rip-this-joint
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

ladies and gentlemen, mr john gruber.

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caek, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

i have my first appointment with a genius tomorrow. hard drive died. i've already replaced it myself, but i want them to pay for the new drive, so i'm putting the dead one back in for my genius date. i think this is actually my first hardware problem in the post apple store era. any tips for getting what i want given i know the problem and fix?

― caek, Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:47 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol this was great. the (cute) genius just said, "yes, hard drive", checked there was one in stock ON IPHONE and then i went and got a coffee while they put it in. they also cleaned off the "general dirt" they euphemistically described my dead skin/sneezes as. A+ would visit again.

caek, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

when the genius bar appointments go well, they go great

I took one in and just said "bad hard drive" and the guy said "smart status?" and I was all like "failing!"

After that it was just me heading out and coming back the next day since they had an installation queue.

mh, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

based upon experience (and then confirmed by an apple genius friend), the apple geniuses have the power to choose whether or not to comp a repair out of warranty. i like this because it's pretty easy to smile, be nice and friendly

printf (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

speak for yourself

Romford Spring (DG), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

i know i know computers have a way of making me irrationally angry (ive broken a few computer things with my fist X:)

but u gotta take a chill pill if u want free apple stuff

printf (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

my great regret is not purchasing an applecare warranty

but my mbp is coming up on three years anyway so

THAT'S LIGHTWEIGHT DICKERY (dayo), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

Buy them aftermarket on ebay or somewhere, if you do. Some are the same price, but the markup for resellers is huge so there are always some shady ones who sell it for cheap.

mh, Thursday, 19 May 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

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I would kind of be a total moron to buy an iPhone 4 right now if I have a 3gs, right?

I recognize this, but keep telling myself I could probably resell it and buy yet another phone at the end of the year if I felt it necessary.

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wont you lose your upgrade eligibility for a year? Some asshole tried top smash my car a few weeks ago and i swerved so sharply my 3GS went flying. When I picked it up I realized the power button, headphone jack, mute switch and volume bar weren't working. i called ATT to see if I needed to sign up for another two years if I got the $45 3GS. She said that to get the $45 deal I would have to sign up. To get a 3GS without reupping my contract it would cost me $250 for the new 3GS plus $300 something for some kind of sticking with my current contract fee. Worst part was that if I went for the $45 + 2 year contract deal i wouldn't be eligible for upgrade until May 2012.

Anyway in the end I just opened the phone up and found a loose connector. I plugged it back in and everything works just peachily. Took 10 minutes. Sure beats 2 years or $550+.

So yeah. Just wait until September or if you cant wait get an ipad 2.

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Sunday, 22 May 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

Nah that's straight up bullshit they let you upgrade at 18 months. My shitty plan was to get a discounted 4 now, flip it for $400 or a little more when the new one's been out a bit, and pay full price for the new one.

Yes, stupid plan, just wanted to waste lots of money.

mh, Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

heh my dvd drive stopped working one day, wasn't recognized in osx. opened it up, loose cable, plugged it in voila.

but now it won't take DVDs, pretends it's already got one. fuckin A

and the suggest banned tweeted on (dayo), Sunday, 22 May 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

Mh ATT allow you to upgrade in 12 months (i assume because apple bring out a new phone each year). The thought did cross my mind to get the 4 but I'm still kind of pissed that they had everyone calling it 'iPhone 4G' when ATT wouldn't release 4G for another 9 or 10 months which was a moot point anyway because the gen 4 can't even run 4G. Also, I've been waiting almost a year for iPhone 5 and adding on another 9 months because I wasted my upgrade would be ridiculous.
However, flipping it isn't the worst idea. I checked out 3Gs' on EBay expecting them to be super cheap but they're all around $300 I guess because they're all jailbroken which takes what? 10 minutes?

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Monday, 23 May 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, if iPhone 5 isn't 4G capable I'm probably going to lose my shit come September

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Monday, 23 May 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link

lol the hd they replaced last week has failed. took it in this morning but they don't have the part in stock. should be in in 48 hours.

in the meantime, two hdds in a week seems suspicious. has anyone ever heard of a problem with a computer (software or hardware) that kills the hard drives connected to it?

caek, Monday, 23 May 2011 10:30 (twelve years ago) link


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