US POLITICS SPRING 2011: Let's just call off this country.

lol @ k3v & alfred on this thread

did you guys actually read what he wrote

i share extreme disappointment w/ you dudes at 'the state of the world' i just disagree w/ the notion that obama should be the target of our collective anger

or the primary target, i should say

yeah he was like here is a point someone else made i don't think that's right because here's some numbers but wait those numbers are dumb here's what i think anyway

xp what are you talking about, all i said was that the article was dumb, not that i hated obama. batsignal off

why are those numbers dumb

i agree w/ D-40 ... the entire Democratic Party has become a weak bag of piss, not just the President.

read the article he says so himself

Greenwald w/ some golden Dem quotes from when Bush appointed a soldier to head the CIA:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/04/28/petraeus/index.html

lol @ k3v & alfred on this thread

You're welcome!

Obama at nerd prom aka White House correspondents dinner: "Now Trump can focus on issues that matter, like who faked the moon landing, what really happened in Roswell, and.. where are Biggie and Tupac?"

Seth Meyers: "I'm going to get a really pissed off voice mail from Ginny Thomas 19 years from now."

and.. where are Biggie and Tupac?"

― daria g, Sunday, May 1, 2011 2:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

ok he just got my vote back

the 'lion king' birth video was omg awesome

seth meyers is a funny guy i'm sure but he's a pretty terrible comedian no?

i don't know. he killed it last night. the trump jokes and louis gosset sr = A+

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/seth-meyers-mocks-trump-biden-at-press-dinner/2011/04/30/AFAiqiOF_video.html

yeah i just watched his whole bit and he was killin it imo

he was p good yeah, better than i expected

myers was funny but obama was a fucking riot imo

btw fuckin lol

Palin praised Heroic Media's advertising against abortion, on billboards, online and in social media. She also presented an award to Lila Rose, the videographer and activist who did a video sting operation against Planned Parenthood and worked with James O'Keefe on his sting against ACORN.

what lengths do you have to go to in order to make doing this a heroic act to be commended on a public scale

My favorite bits from Myers were the Will.i.am and Gary Busey bird-cage jokes, and "bad news about the choo-choos." Trump looks awful, but even Obama had a few seconds of icy-stare pique when Myers started talking about Huckabee and Kenya (around 11:40 in the video clip above). Probably manufactured--he has to show he has feelings.

xp these people are Machiavellian in the extreme - anything you do that helps them makes you a hero, the end

Man, he's our good timing in chief.

obama was crakkin up at meyers joke about trump and "the blacks"

i tend to hate this shit, tho. at least obama didnt make jokes about predator drones.

"The pro-life cause or White House Correspondents' Dinner? I choose life"

http://www.mychemicaltoilet.com/george_michael_choose_life-thumb-430x408.jpg

xp these people are Machiavellian in the extreme - anything you do that helps them makes you a hero, the end

uh huh; my post seems daft now because yeah of course she should be lauded for opening the world's eyes to the evils of PP, etc, but: it's just weird that outside of making it a special categorised award, like, good job investigative reporting!, they're okay making something so sly and evidently dubious an award winner.

yes the joke about "the blacks" was great

obama kinda killed trump worse though, making fun of his credentials etc - even more than meyers' that had to cut deep

also the joke about miss usa and the VP search was awesome

and yeah like max given how bad for america these things are i was kinda mad at myself for loving the comedy stuff

as well you should be.

did he do another killing-pop-stars-with-drone-missiles joke? no cred otherwise.

i guess it was nice to see obama zinging trump. i have been feeling so bummed this week about the birth certificate stuff, and how humiliating and insulting it is for obama to have to... present his identifying papers, essentially. so, i dunno, there was something cathartic about getting to give a big fuck-you to trump.

on the other hand theres something off about the dynamics of the room--all these black-tie power broker types, none of whom (i hope!) are birthers, zinging the vulgar, wrong-thinking interloper.

BECAUSE IT'S ALL TRIVIA AND OBAMA IS JUST ANOTHER FUCKER, WITH POWER TRUMP WILL NEVER HAVE

Yes--he was elected president. It follows.

obama zinging trump, the excelsior thread of C-SPAN

on the other hand theres something off about the dynamics of the room--all these black-tie power broker types, none of whom (i hope!) are birthers, zinging the vulgar, wrong-thinking interloper.

this is righteous but it's like - complex relationship to vulgarity for me - people shouldn't be hated for not being of/understanding/being able to participate in the conventions of power at the same level as the entitled, but on the other hand, Trump's particular vulgarity is genuinely harmful to discourse - it's like - the type of vulgarity he's bringing to the game merits a smackdown, if it's gotta come from the corridors of power that's ok by me although I assume it'll give him a boost with the constituency he's courting, i.e., the hopelessly stupid

Trump is just a smaller power broker trying cynically to ride a wave of stupidity into a position of greater power. As Palin has proved, you need not be elected, or to serve in office, to ride this wave into prominence. It even helps your position if you are not distracted by actual political responsibilities.

there are a lot of people in this country, millions of whom are eager for the crap spewed by palin and trump and bachmann. the shameless bitch just compared taxes to the holocaust
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110430/ap_on_go_co/us_bachmann_holocaust
i'm not choosing a lesser evil here by saying i'm glad obama puts these people on the defensive. the gop has been ascendant since at least kennedy primary-challenged carter. i like the bullies getting stood up to occasionally, even if it is political theater by dems who aren't heralding the golden socialist utopia: better obama zinging trump for a few cycles than "job producing tax cuts" and "medicare prime supplements" and "unions initiated the financial crisis" dominating the news

Donald Trump really is just an overgrown spoiled rich man's son.

so are most of the successful "small business owners" who fund the chamber of commerce. it's refreshing to see them picked on by proxy

the shameless bitch just compared taxes to the holocaust

I hate Sarah Palin and support progressive policies but it'd be super-awesome if people who share my values would strike the misogynist term "bitch" from their politics-talking vocabularies

sorry I see it was Michelle Bachmann. Another person who when people haul out the misogynist epithets I think "great job there dude, that totally helps"

shameless asshole then. better?

you might not see the difference, but yes, better

Donald Trump possesses a kind of capitalist ur-power that eludes Obama, but Obama's power is oddly complementary. That is, Trump can get away with all sorts of crazy shit with no (or virtually no) repercussions that Obama could not get away with - publicly calling the Chinese "motherfuckers" and batshit stuff like that. Yet Obama can get away with things that Trump cannot do - like bomb countries and stuff. Which makes even the joke prospect of President Trump kind of scary - this is a guy that can literally have or do just about anything he wants except kill people. Ergo, one trembles in fear at the implicit drive behind his seeking higher office.

let's not forget, please, that Trump (like Palin before him) is admired as a prez candidate by a small percentage of the population.

shameless shithead is nicely alliterative

liberals like to wring their hands over them, in other words

Who the fuck really thinks Trump has a shot, liberal or conservative? No one, I thought. Has there really been hand-wringing? Me, I'm just scared of dudes like him in general, who have everything but want more.

Trump could not buy the sort of attention that a president commands. His reality show only gets a few million sets of eyeballs, I am guessing under 10 million at least. As president he would be the center of the world's attention. Even as a "serious" candidate he would up his media attention by a factor of 10.

Of course, if he got in the White House, he'd be irresponsible in ways we can only fathom in our darkest imagination.

btw this is the same glitzy, incestuous party where David Gregory and Karl Rove did this routine, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYZre8kEsuw

i'm only about a quarter through this thing but it is great

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/08/power-struggle-inside-the_n_530247.html?view=print

Power Struggle: Inside The Battle For The Soul Of The Democratic Party

a master class in all the dumb shit we argue about itt constantly