The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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That 1978 should be (Nov) 1976 (oops), timings at that point in history are crucial.

Mark G, Thursday, 5 May 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

Mud go disco, urgh...

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't the guitarist write 'Can't get you out my head' by Kylie...sounds a bit like it...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Frankie Valli's tired performance there. He really got a boost from appearing in Grease in '78, didn't he.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Sometimes I think Elvis died just to avoid crappy cover versions like this.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

the shadows have let themselves go...

koogs, Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Mud go disco

Surreal

Que sera sera... (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

the shadows have let themselves go...

Even by 1976 standards that was one ugly backing band.

Was there anything good in this episode? Apart from Cliff?

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 08:16 (twelve years ago) link

The iplayer only has the 30 min version!

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link

Blimey, Robin Sarstedt, what was that all about? Sutherland Brothers/Quiver was quite nice, not enough guys with combovers in the charts these days.

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 08:24 (twelve years ago) link

Guessing Annie Lennox has superseded the Sutherland Brothers as Aberdeenshire's biggest chart act though

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 08:26 (twelve years ago) link

The Sutherland Brothers and Quiver were pretty great, a lot of quality 70s country rock/AOR tunes. Never heard the Suths on their own tho.

wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 May 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link

odd that they chopped the Stones out of the longer version.

Robin Sarstedt song was familiar. probably from Jane Russell in The Las Vegas Story.

i think claire grogan has heard that fox single.

koogs, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:46 (twelve years ago) link

The Sutherlan Brothers did the original of "Sailing", and I knew it before Rods version thanks to a k-tel compilation.

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

Well....'punk had to happen' is a tired old theme, but IF it was ever true then this weeks shows why. Robin Sarstedt - just die you seedy bastard. Sutherland Brothers and Quiver - a soundtrack for cruisin' down the Gateshead bypass in your Hillman Avenger. The singer (Gavin Sutherland?) had great hair though. Frankie Valli, who I maintain it is impossible to dislike looked like he hadn't slept for a year. Manilow - unspeakably awful, and why did he have the piano stool so high? He could barely reach the keys. JJ Barrie - nothing can really describe the horror of this record, although he looked like a decent enough bloke. The Mud record was utterly bizarre - I have no memory of this at all. Even though it was a bit of a disco death-rattle from the bubble-glam stalwarts, they at least seemed enthusistic about it. And bonus marks go to Dave Mount for doing the 'let's arse about on the telly' walk around his drum-kit. What else was there? Ruby Flipper - what did Pan's People do to deserve this fate? Only bright spot was Cliff - crackin' song that with a lovely electric piano sound. The band were hod-carriers even by TOTP session-men standards. They made Sutherland Brothers and Quiver look like arch sex gods in comparison. Oh and of course Abba. But they faded it in verse 2 - bastards. A dire week but at least they didn't show Hank Mizell or John Miles. And how bored was Noel throughout?

Back in 76, I was still watching TOTP as a 14yr old, along with OGWT, but I don't think I was listening to anything much from the charts. I had some Pink Floyd albums, I think I'd just discovered the Syd era LPs. I had a couple of Status Quo albums (Piledriver, Hello) some Bowie and T-Rex, Story of The Who, some K-Tel comps. Within a year I'd be spending my pocket money on scratchy singles in home-made sleeves made by bands barely older than myself from Belfast, Manchester, Deptford and Ladbroke Grove. Happy days, and yeah they did HAVE to happen.

Dr.C, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

(Imagine a bootmix of "Give peace a chance" with the lyrics of "Sailing" over the top of it)

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

xpost obviously, blimey thread's suddenly busy.

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

Two of SB and Quiver played with Pink Floyd - Tim Renwick and Willie Wilson.

Dr.C, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

And Bruce Thomas was in Quiver!! But not in SB&Q, I think.

Dr.C, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

Tim Renwick? Something to do with Bowie too?

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link

Muso note - Cliff's bass player was playing an interesting Burns Bison bass. And he looked like a bison too. A bespectacled bison.

Dr.C, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link

xpost - yes, Space Oddity-era IIRC

Dr.C, Friday, 13 May 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

Re: SB+Q, I like this idea of two struggling bands joining together a la Dagenham & Redbridge or something

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

A bit like Bob Dylan and The Band, with a shared credit!

Or do I mean Cliff Richard and The Shadows, but ran backwards?

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link

Was Robin Sarstedt related to Peter Sarstedt? Were they even their real names?

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 13 May 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, they were brothers. Also Eden Kane, who was actually Richard Starstedt

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

although, you are also right, Robin's first name was Clive.

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

I thought they looked alike but I was worried I was just being racist. I love Peter Sarstedt, I'd love it if a performance of this turned up on BBC4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRyIiutZ8ck

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 13 May 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

> Back in 76, I was still watching TOTP as a 14yr old, along with OGWT

that's something else they should repeat, whistle test.

koogs, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

in fact, ditch bbc3 and just use it to show bbc1 from 35 years ago, verbatim.

koogs, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

I keep reading OGWT as Odd Gang Wolf Them. Argh.

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Don't mind me, just catching up:

Mud's "Shake it down" the latest victim of the "must re-record with the BBC orchestra" rule, the record is much better than this.

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

The musicians featured on the Cliff Richard recording are Terry Britten on guitar, Alan Tarney on bass, Clem Cattini on drums, Graham Todd on keyboards.

So, some top names in that list. OK. they're a bit ug, but hey.

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

I'd forgotten how bad Ruby Flipper were. Pan's People's over-literal interpretation of lyrics were much better by comparison.
And Midge Ure looks about 14.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 19 May 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Three times a month, a little reggae like it used to be

koogs, Friday, 20 May 2011 08:46 (twelve years ago) link

NOT AGAIN

Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 20 May 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Wait till we get to 'Mull of Kintyre'...there'll be mass suicides across the country...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

austerity totp this week - 75% recycled clips and robin sarstedt singing to an empty studio.

am amazed at the amount of blokes in the charts, think i counted 6 acts containing women in the top 30 and 2 of those were BoM and abba. and also at how long things are hanging around - BoM were #1 for 5 or 6 weeks and are still in top 10 a month later.

late version, the long one, started 15 minute late so i missed the end.

ok, wasn't as bad as i thought:
29 Melba Moore
28 Tina Charles
24 Gladys Knight and the Pips
16 Wings
15 Diana Ross
12 Silver Connection
10 Fox
08 BoM
06 Andrea True Connection
01 Abba

koogs, Friday, 27 May 2011 06:53 (twelve years ago) link

I remember Linda Lewis getting nominated for Best Female for years at a stretch in Record Mirror.

Mark G, Friday, 27 May 2011 07:26 (twelve years ago) link

True moved to New York City as a teenager, to seek fame as a mainstream movie star. While she did manage to get some minor roles in mainstream movies, including The Way We Were, the fame she sought was fleeting. Desperate for work, she decided to pursue a career as a porn star. She appeared in more than 60 hardcore porn films throughout the 1970s and early to mid-80s, and distinguished herself as one of the more recognizable porn stars in the early New York adult-film industry.

During her heyday as a porn actress, True was hired by a real estate business in Jamaica to appear in their commercial ads. During her stay on Jamaica, a political crisis gripped the island, and no one was allowed to leave with any money. Not wanting to lose her hard-earned pay, True asked her friend, record producer Gregg Diamond, to travel to the island and produce a track for her, which she would finance locally. Diamond arrived with a composition in hand, to which True added lyrics. The result of their collaboration was "More, More, More."

i never knew any of this but it goes some way to explaining why Andrea True Connection gives me funny feelings in my tummy when i watch her video

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/may/29/critics-notebook-alexis-petridis

I agree with everything he said. Staggering Noosha Fox - Ben Goldacre fact, too.

non voglio parlarne (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 May 2011 07:43 (twelve years ago) link

Sailor are Roxy-lite, but you can bet that Ferry wishes he'd written 'A Glass of Champagne'.
I like the idea that R&B/hip hop in 2011 is in the same state as glam in 1976 - a style left to second tier chancers after the real innovators have long since moved on.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Monday, 30 May 2011 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

Catching up with last week's. thought I'd acclimatised to this strange world, then they start off with close-up on golliwog logo.

This is my favourite thing on television at the moment.

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Oh dear... Heavy Metal Kids

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

Holton is like a UK Woolworth's version of Alice Cooper.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

The naff disco really kicked in at this point, didn't it?

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that the dream Iggy had that inspired 'TVC15' didn't look like Ruby Flipper's interpretation.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

Jesus fuck, Heavy Metal Kids.
how did punk ever happen after that? how could that not make every youth in the country immediately swear never to make chugging pub rock with out-of-tune faux-working class vocals?

</reductive mis-analysis of the trends of 35 years ago>

also sadface because "Heavy Metal Kids" made me think of Kraftwerk with Rother and Dinger. But still, Archie Bell and the Drells!

(did the presenters get to choose the acts? last week's was very conspicuously all white, in rather stark contrast to the acts pictured in the chart rundown at the start, so this week's was a refreshing change after that. wondered if JS should get any credit for that or if I should continue to be skeeved out by him)

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 2 June 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think that the presenters had any real say in who was on. By the mid 70's the producers of TOTP had to pick from whoever was available, the programme not being able to get the big hitters like Bowie or the Stones. Hence the procession of uninspired soul/disco groups, Ruby Flipper, videotapes of MOR stuff like Barrie and Sarstedt, and arse-end-of-glam bands like HMK (the singer desperately trying to sound like Ian Hunter and failing dismally).

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link


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