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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Latest update (courtesy of www.killing-joke.com, not to be confused with the "official" site cited above)...

Tour Line up:

Bass - Raven
Drums - Ted Parsons

You know the other usual suspects.

There is a promo tour lined up prior to the release of the new album, titled Killing Joke 2003, and Raven has been asked to join. This is not slated to be a concert tour, but rather a press tour...as it stands now.

Release date, though it may change, is set for late July. After the 20th.

Open dates for touring, though none are set as of this date, are from early August through late October.

This week, the album will go through final mix, then it is off tp pressing. The band members also signed the confidentiality agreements, meaning it will not be MP3'd, or released in any way with out authority
from the label.

In short, the album is all done, going to press, and we will all have it in our hot hands in just about 2 1/2 months, with a tour starting shortly after.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 May 2003 05:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search - Killing Joke, What's This For, Revelations
Good, but less so - Fire Dances
All others worthwhile, but not essential, IMHO. Some, I must confess I have not heard..........

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Before this thread, I seriously thought I was committed to the point of being committed to my adoration of New Romantic/'80s "New British Invasion" music. Now, I realize it's all a hobby compared to Alex's near-slavish devotion to Killing Joke.

He's even unwittingly gotten me into them. Well, to "Night Time", anyway. I actually went out of my way to a different music store each day last week to search for that album, even going so far as to go 20 miles out of my way to a funky little music store that I thought might have it. It's damned hard to get around here, it seems.

Damn you, Alex. ;) It would only be fair for you to do a similar hunting thing for a band I adore. Maybe The Cure, or the Psychedelic Furs, or Duran Duran, or Japan, or Yellow Magic Orchestra, or Ultravox, or Visage, or A Flock of Seagulls, or... er. I think I have the reason behind the first two sentences in this post here.

Seriously, though, it's admirable that you would be so committed to a band that you would want to sing their praises on a constant basis. Very good.

Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 10 May 2003 03:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

As in the same Ted Parsons formerly of Swans and Prong?

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 10 May 2003 05:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

The same.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 May 2003 05:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey Alex. Thought of you just now when reading an item in the "New Arrivals" list at Aquarius Records. Note the inclusion of KJ's "Turn to Red" (Maybe you have it already?)...

V/A Wild Dub (Select Cuts) cd 15.98
Subtitled "Dread Meets Punk Rocker Downtown" this is a brilliant collection of dubbed out and reggaefied punk and new wave b-sides circa '77-'81, demonstrating the Jamaican dub influence on the youth culture of music and rebellion in England and elsewhere, back in the day. The underground dancefloor avantgardists of today can cop these styles, but this is the real deal, with tracks from well-known acts like The Pop Group, Killing Joke, The Slits, PIL, The Clash, Grace Jones and Stiff Little Fingers, plus some more obscure bands as well, like Red Beat, 4 Be 2, and Basement 5. Some cuts are actual echoey dubs, others are more about the Jamaican influence, and the dub concept of studio as instrument. All are pretty cool.

The Ruts' "Jah War" starts things off in deceptively ordinary fashion, pretty much straight up reggae (not a dub), though it does succesfully demonstrate this comp's thesis about the regarding the influence of reggae on punk (with The Ruts eventually becoming Ruts DC, subject of an anthology on Select Cuts we recommended a while back)... That's followed by Mikey Dread's dub version of The Clash's "Bank Robber" which of course sounds pretty much like The Clash, but dubbier. It's with track three, "Wild Dub" from Generation X, purportedly the first punk dub ever cut, that the punk-dub collision starts to get really interesting. And if Billy Idol's old band's dub attempt is cool, you can only imagine what more some of the more out-there groups came up with. For instance, dig the bizarre sounds of The Slits, whose disjointed dub of "Typical Girls" comes off like Italian 'rock concrete' deconstructionists Starfuckers by way of Jamaica, all cut-up and sparse and loopy. Definitely a highlight. Meanwhile, you've got The Pop Group setting an example for current acts like Out Hud/!!! to emulate, 4 Be 2's weird Irish hoedown skank, the throbbing "Turn To Red" by Killing Joke (from a super-rare 9" record), and Grace Jones' 1980 Chrissie Hynde penned dance classic "Private Life" with bass and drums from Sly & Robbie. And more... Former Sex Pistol Johnny Rotten is a ubiquitous presence, in addition to PIL's quintessential "Death Disco", there's a bunch of other John Lydon productions on here, including a great track from Vivien Goldman ("Private Armies") dubbed up by Lydon and Adrian Sherwood. Goldman, former singer with the Flying Lizards and reggae writer for the punk weekly Sounds, contributes the disc's liner notes, with an enthusiastic, informed, she-was-there-then-and-cares-deeply-about-it-now perspective. So, totally, recommended -- everyone who loved those great Disco Not Disco and/or In The Beginning There Was Rhythm compilations will want to check this out for sure!

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, yes. Just checked a tracklist.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 12 May 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://killing-joke.com/laff_jester.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The site is up. Not especially compatible with Netscape. I suggest Internet Explorer. And you'll need Flash.

http://www.killingjoke.com

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
This thread is funny.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:50 (twenty years ago) link

Indeed it is ... indeed it is.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

Tell us then, good Doctor, which band do you personally prescribe?

THE LEGENDARY FIRST POST! From such small acorns...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

Actually the second! But I like the idea of it being the first for some reason. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 07:10 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
you all talk rubbish

keith, Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

I first met Jaz in London in 1979 and saw The Joke for the first time. I last met Jaz a few weeks ago at the Camden Underworld gig and as usual we chatted. In the 24 yeaqrs in between I have seen the Joke many, many times both in England and abroad. From their first release to their last and most recent release all the work has been remarkable. I have read all of your comments and feel that most of you have no concept or idea of the subject matter of the Black Jester's work.

Keith, Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

Um, no thanks, we've already got one...

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
I still want to know whether Ned knew what he was about to unleash when he passed on the secret of how to post pictures on ILM?

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, you're right at that! It was all for the good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's the way Alex had snuck off to his birthplace to practice his moves, before you (Grand Master Raggett) came to show him the way.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
This is just a heads up for Alex in NYC -- I remember him pointing out in another thread something about a strange appearance of a Killing Joke poster in the background of some TV teen's bedroom or something.

Anyways, I just finished watching this TV pilot for my work, which features a scene with a young girl giving a guy a mix CD. As she hands it to him, she says "it has all the hot new stuff on it -- The Darkness, Handsome Boy Modeling School (?), Killing Joke..."

Maybe there's one main set dresser/cred consultant lurking in TV land who's a big Joke fanatic...?

Neb Reyob (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

it has all the hot new stuff on it -- The Darkness, Handsome Boy Modeling School (?), Killing Joke...

My head just exploded.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

They're my three favourite bands!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the obligatory posters-hung-at-a-dutch-angle in any movie/tv teenagers' room, which obviously are "whatever the labels sent for free" -- It's always a mix of like James Taylor, Guttermouth, and Polvo or something.

does this phenomenon have it's own thread? (not that it DESERVES it, I realize, but that hasn't stopped me before...)

Neb Reyob (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

The Darkness, Handsome Boy Modeling School (?), Killing Joke..."

Words fail me.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Incidentally, those sympathetic to the cause should take heart, as next week sees the official release of Chaos for Breakfast.

http://www.studio-c.co.uk/maliciousdamage/graphics/chaos.jpg

http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

fucking whoopee

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 June 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

You, sir, are an enemy of joy.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link

No, sorry, I'm with the Doc. - re-release everything and devalue my original vinyl copies why don't you, you bastards?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 11 June 2004 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, Stew, these aren't simpy re-releases. There are some un-released demos involved (if you care about such things). But, you knew this.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
http://killing-joke.com/laff_jester.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, but is it art?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Just reminding people. Jaz is watching.

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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
"You know, after all of this, would it be foolish to admit that I for one am actually not very familar with Killing Joke?" adam in 2003

Have you rectified this problem yet?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
C L A S S I C !

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 January 2007 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd forgotten that I was living under a seven year curse. I guess it still has a year to run.

Honour the fire!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 4 January 2007 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Where's my fellow Ultravox/Japan/Scars fan Bimbler? He's a fan of this group. Admittedly I can't get into them because they're too much of Another's Group, untouchable the way Belle & Sebastian also are, but it's good that someone whom I find as much musical symmetry with would derive pleasure from listening to this group.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I spun "A Love Like Blood" on the radio today. (I would have gone for "Night Time" but they didn't have it.)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 5 January 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link

("spun" is definitely the improper verb tense)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 5 January 2007 06:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The drum sound/performance on "Savage Freedom" is the best ever. Just saying.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Friday, 5 January 2007 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link

they're too much of Another's Group

Are you suggesting the `Joke are not their own? POPPYCOCK, BLASPHEMER!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 5 January 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

hey alex, way off topic, but every time i see an e-surance commercial, i think of you...

john. a resident of chicago. (john s), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you suggesting the `Joke are not their own? POPPYCOCK, BLASPHEMER!

No no no, that's not what I meant at all (and calm down, man). I mean that they belong so much to this Other Grouping that I feel like an interloper even sampling one of their songs, which I confess to having done over the past week. Actually some of what I've been hearing reminds me of some of the Scars' latter output -- tribal-flavored, danceable post-punk with sharp, angular guitar action. But I'd still "feel like a thief or burglar barging into that territory", as I explained to Bimbler on the temporary forum. Same thing with a few other artists. Speaking of, I wonder where Bimbler is. I'd have thought he'd have poked his head in around here by now.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Saturday, 6 January 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm here Phoenix, but the problem is despite my flights of fancy on the temporary board, I'm not even nearly as much of a Killing Joke fan as Alex is, and both he and many folks here know that. So you embarass me a bit, though I'm flattered to be mentioned. ;O

That said I did run into "Turn To Red" tonight when playing part of my 8-Disc mix of 1979 tracks that I made a few years ago.

Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 January 2007 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I did respond to your email tonight about Scars/Robert King etc.

I think you and I need to start discussing things privately more often. I asked if you liked New Order on the other board but you were gone, etc. We've got a good think going Phoenix. Let's talk some more!

Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 January 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

this band is shit. Dud

am0n, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link


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