The time taken to introduce the characters and setup def pays off once the "game" really gets going
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://i52.tinypic.com/10y2wlk.gif
― Number None, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
I would like Carcetti to suddenly appear at my side to give me advice at times.
― allmypulp, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
and then tell you he's untrustworthy
― Brakhage, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
that gif is great!
― Aerosol, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
excellent giffage
― VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
that gif reminds me of the nymag recaps (which have been great) where margaret lyons points out how creepy and rape-tinged almost every scene is
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/05/game_of_thrones_recap_a_newbie_1.html
she also makes one of my favorite character-based analogies, which is sansa:arya::becky:darlene
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
wau @ sansa:arya::becky:darlene
― Aerosol, Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
i love how it looks like he's being rolled into the shot!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I can't find a clip but imagine I'm posting, here, the scene from Dead and Loving It in which Dracula's diaphanous henchwomen are revealed to be rolled across the floor on a pull-board.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
where are the dragons
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
why was jousting not any different from earth jousting
why is it not monster-fighting time yet
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
I do like this show but can't help but compare its pacing to that of Rome (which I loved so much).
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Rome was awesome
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^ I miss Rome. Especially the hot older Julie Cooper looking lady.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
I wish this had production values a little more like Rome's, but I guess that's kind of a dead-end considering how much Rome cost.
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
Julii Cooper iirc
xpost
― Gukbe, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
totally nicked that from TWoP now that I think about it
― Gukbe, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
god i kinda hated rome :( didn't watch anything beyond the first season.
robyn, a large part of game of thrones's appeal lies in that it is not overtly fantastical. so if you want dragons & elves & wizards & shit you might be a bit disappointed, espesh at first.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:55 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark
they should've been riding big-ass dignified birds
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
hella joustin on a big ass dignified bird
sansa:arya::becky:darlene
yesssssssssssss!!!
I hadn't seen that NY Mag stuff - excited to read. Also, Ian otm re the fantastical elements and everyone except Ian otm regarding Rome. I have the boxset but haven't watched it since it aired originally. Keep meaning to.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
read 'hella joustin' as a french name first time around.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeah what happened is that I rewatched the first ep w my brother, who hadn't yet watched GoT, and it's so good, and then as eps go on there are so many hints at 'other-worldly' things yet none have really shown themselves. I'd actually be cool w no dragons n stuff if I didn't feel incessantly taunted about there being dragons n stuff one day maybe if yr good.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I really like this idea of dragons + fantasy stuff being a part of the vernacular but not really present. It gives a sense not just of a world in its post-wonderous age (this kind of moment after all the heroes have died and this is what remains) but also an analogue to our own culture where these fairy tales and stories are always very prevalent tho clearly these things don't exist. And I imagine that in the War of the Roses era that GoT is based off, there was probably this real sense of magic just off in the corners of society (whether it's mermaid icons on seafaring maps or the Church going after benandanti for being witches). Obviously it's more real here in GoT (where there are remnants of these things -- in people's memories, or in the dragon eggs) than IRL, but still I like this sense of it being absent from the day to day politics that actually run shit.
― Mordy, Friday, 13 May 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
srsly tho if I'd been the author's editor I would have at least wondered openly to him about jousting scene's relative normalcy. but I do understand that it's tv and needs to be a bit more sustainable than Rome re budget etc. xp
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously you're going to have to be very good this year so we can ALL have dragons, rrrobyn.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
I was thinking along a similar line, yes! The half-forgetting or loss of magic is really interesting. maybe the lighting and line delivery just makes the supernatural lore stuff seem like taunting rather than just nostalgia or a yearning for faith or whatever it might be. xp
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
hahaaa :)
finished the 2nd book yesterday, working on the third as we speak
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
damn!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
most fucked up thing in series so far happens in book 3. enjoy!
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh good
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
i can't wait to hear what you think of storm of swords max. its the craziest book!!!
― Princess TamTam, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
ya i was supposed to go out tonight with some friends but.... that might not happen
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
i cannot tell you how excited i was when i looked and there were TWO NEW MAPS in the front
TWO NEW MAPS!!
and the old maps had NEW DETAILS
ok just laughed out loud at that dude beheading his horse
― Gukbe, Monday, 16 May 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
was the loras/renly thing hinted at in the books? I don't remember the gay subtext at all. maybe an addition by HBO?
― calstars, Monday, 16 May 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
shit got real this week
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
the loras/renly romance is hinted at, but there is absolutely no chest shaving in the books.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
don't understand why daenarys' child is a threat because of the dothraki, but going out and killing the dothraki king's son/wife wouldn't cause recriminations.
― Gukbe, Monday, 16 May 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that seemed dumb to me as well
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
danerys having a child will tie the dothraki ppl to Viserys's cause (the reclamation of the throne by the Targaeryens.) Don't see how any possible repercussions (by a people who are afraid to crossing the ocean) is any worse than the foreseen 'dothraki coming to burn our towns' scenario.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man this is getting fantastic, time for tombot bullets
1. King Fat is like the SADDEST GUY I mean seriously between his first and last dialogue scenes in this ep the dude has basically the absolute worst life on the planet, all this motherfucker has for joy is booze and eats, and he's already the king so he can't even dream except of his own kingdom's dissolution, it is laid out, his life SUCKS
2. My main worry about this piece of teevee is that nothing bad happens for Dinklage. Never mind the character, SPOILERS I know his guy outlasts most of the rest END SPOILERS I just want our man in the small costumes to get through the whole series. I mean if I was a betting man Tyrion would be the eventual benevolent dictator and pops to some kinda westeros republic, but to do that right, P.D. needs to survive to be in his fifties, little men are high insurance, anxiety happens.
3. DUDE the monologue about five vs. one is GREAT. Oh shit now it's every man for himself in the seven kingdoms? What? Libertarianism happened and now you have to worry about everyone who's not a libertarian coming after number one with a halberd! This show just got political. LOL RON PAUL, tell me how you would deal with a horde of horse lords.
4. Carcetti is an extraordinarily unboring agent of wordy exposition. I'm excited to see where Prezbo and Marlo show up. There ought to be some room for black Wire alumni in all this, I mean, they did it for Thor.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 16 May 2011 05:00 (twelve years ago) link
tombot let me just say that it's a pleasure to see you and i'm glad you're on-board for this shit.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
also re point 3, Robert is being fairly practical--of course if there's an invasion he can't have his lords fighting their own wars with one another--his lack of a unified military seems to be a big problem for him, so much that he seems to take it a personal defect.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 16 May 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
to the daenarys/dothraki threat question:
If she bears an heir to the dothraki, that heir means a claim to ALL OF THE SHIT EVERYWHERE
If she is killed with her child, in the usual poisonous fashion, prior to the child's coming of age, then that represents WHOOPS OH WELL, try again with a real horse lady, stick to what you know.
Frankly the fact that she is alive and well overseas means little - the fact that she is bedding down with a high ranking army commander means that she may command terrifying leverage. It's all about risk, like a sixteen year picking up carpool rides versus a sixteen year old piloting a brand new Superleggera.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 16 May 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link