How can it be that we have never polled RUMOURS by Fleetwood Mac?!

It still sells a thousand a week, thirty-four years later?! Lindsay must eat & drink money.

He has a recording studio made out of gold bars, with bathroom tiles glued over them for that echo.

he also keeps the entire USC marching band circa 1980 in an italian villa, just in case he needs them.

I'm watching this right now (and hopefully further lining Lindsay's pockets indirectly)

Lindsey, jeez - I always do that

i don't want to know = the secret best song on this record.

I keep forgetting about that one. If I'd have voted in this poll when it first came up I would have went for 'You Make Loving Fun' immediately. It's all about John McVie's bass playing and the background harmonies in the chorus for me. He must have been thrilled to play bass on it, though.

Has the original mix of Silver Springs ever been on CD?

i don't want to know = the secret best song on this record.

― tylerw, Friday, October 28, 2011

Got the superduper reissue today - the 'new' outtakes are really great, kinda baffled that the 2004 reissue didn't use them instead of the barely different mixes. Things like Lindsey and Stevie duetting on Never Going Back again, which has bongos, brushes, piano and different guitar licks, a Stevie demo of 'The Chain' that is a completely different tune apart from the chorus (and 'Keep Me There', a completely different song where the end of The Chain comes from, but can't remember whether that was on the 2004 one), Dreams with just the Rhodes/minimal guitar riffs, a really intimate demo of Songbird...

Live disc is kinda perfunctory, but a nice set of performances and sounds super clean, haven't watched the DVD yet, and the vinyl is lovely.

Also, infuriatingly, absolutely no mention of where these things come from, dates, etc, in the book, but maybe that's asking a bit too much. Got Ken Caillat's book for that, but it's a bit light at points.

Someone pointed out the other day Mick's trucknuts on the cover and now I can't unsee them as trucknuts.

Ken Caillat's head was undoubtedly a bit 'light at points' during the making of the record, mind!

Haha, no kidding...

haha I just noticed someone (Lindsey, presumably) whispers "fuck" at the beginning of "The Chain"

Ha wow, good spot!

First listen: great pop songs with a tough rhythm section!
Second listen: three distinct excellent singer-songwriters!
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Four hundred-third listen: They're talking about my life.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 8, 2010 4:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

alfred otm

sweet. "dreams" is my favorite from this album.

Never heard this demo of "Dreams" before, the backing track is a pretty different direction then what was committed to the LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIt7SpT_06M

Would've voted "Silver Springs" if it made the LP. Have to say "Dreams" though.

Silver Springs was cut out of spite by Lindsey, right? according to Stevie, I Don't Want to Know was an old Buckingham/Nicks song that Lindsey insisted on re-recording in lieu of putting Silver Springs on the record (both couldn't be included because of side length).

I believe "Silver Springs" was cut because there was not enough space on the LP and the band didn't think it fit with the feel of the album. However, it's one of the most achingly pointed love songs she wrote about Lindsey.

Should've been a landslide for Dreams

xp i can't remember which Fmac book/autobio i read this in, but Silver Springs was recorded early on and bumped before time was an issue- Lindsey insisted on re-recording I Don't Want to Know in its place.

Was just checking the expanded CD, and Rumours w/"Silver Springs" weighs in at 44:50, which I guess would have messed up the dynamic range on vinyl some.

I wrote it for Rumours, and fourteen years ago I walked into the studio and the record was basically done. It was at the Record Plant, and Mick said, 'Stevie, I need vou to come outside to the parking lot cause I need to talk to vou for a minute.' And I knew it was reallv serious 'cause Mick never asks you to go out to the parking lot for anything.

So we walked to the huge Record Plant parking lot and he said, 'I'm taking Silver Springs off the record.' And, of course, my first reaction was, 'Why?' And he said, 'There's a lot of reasons, but because basicallv it's just too long. And we think that there's another of vour songs that's better, so that's what we want to do.' Before I started to get upset about Silver Springs, I said, 'What other song?' And he said, 'A song called I Don't Want To Know.' And I said, 'But I don't want that song on this record.' And he said, 'Well, then don't sing it.'

And then I started to scream bloody murder and probablv said every horriblv mean thing that you could possibly say to another human being, and walked back in the studio completely flipped out. I said, 'Well, I'm not gonna sing I Don't Want To Know. I am one-fifth of this band.' And they said. 'Well, if vou don't like it, you can either (a) take a hike or (b) you better go out there and sing I Don't Want To Know or you're only gonna have two songs on the record.' And so, basically, with a gun to my head, I went out and sang I Don't Want To Know. And they put Silver Springs on the back of Go Your Own Way.

~Stevie Nicks, BBC radio interview, 1991

Stevie also speaks about in that great Classic Albums documentary MaresNest posted on the Fleetwood Mac: C or D thread.

there should be a Fleetwood Mac bootleg series

the bass played on The Chain supposedly for sale

https://reverb.com/item/6414168-alembic-series-graphite-john-mcvie-actual-bass?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrLT5weHs2QIVT6ppCh2usw_IEAEYASAEEgLz-vD_BwE&pla=1

yow

that is one ugly-as-sin bass

how in the world did "go your own way" win this with twice as many votes as "dreams"

Karl read my mind.

yeah Dreams is far ahead of anything else on this flawless classic