Surely that myth concerns foreign players, not specifically black players. For whatever that's worth.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
Nigger hasn't become an unacceptable word recently. It was a loathsome insult 'even' in the '60s, which is as far back as I can confidently remember. That's why I said Ron's different generation makes only a small difference.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:47 (twenty years ago) link
Oh Ron. A fool in every direction.
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.thinkclear.co.uk/Expressions/
― Jim paper-jam, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link
i may have to rescind some of my earlier comments
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
Now loads of people will be like "Ahh, poor Ron, hounded out by the poncey liberal elite", which will only fuel racism. But if he hadn't gone, then there would be an uproar at it being condoned, and fair enough - it would have sent a horrible message.
His apologising unreservedly makes the best of a bad job, really.
*sigh*
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
"ooh, he's circumnavigated him there..."
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago) link
Bigot Ron has also said that he apologises for what is 'purported to be a racist remark'. Purported? Samuel L Jackson could say the original remark and it not be racist. Big Ron's not a pimp in the hood, thought he is blinged up to the max.
The sad thing is that I never thought this of him - this isn't a moment of madness which tarnishes a career (Big Ron laid low by off-the cuff remark and the PC brigade) , but something that makes you reevaluate that career as you reevaluate the man. He had to go. No question.
x-post with N.
― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:55 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:01 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:03 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:05 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:10 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
you don't have to be racist, to enjoy his commentary, it just helps.
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link
― de, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:14 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link
― de, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:19 (twenty years ago) link
you shouldn't be flippant with those sorts of accusations, it doesn't help anyone.
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago) link
However, Guardian is reported he said of Desailly 'He's what is known in some schools as a fucking lazy thick nigger.'*
He also was caught out calling Tottie a 'little twat' on air 18 mkonths ago.
* - That'd be those fee-paying schools. Runs for cover
x-post what does Redknapp have to offer apart from [removed due to better judgement]?
― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago) link
― de, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
oh which subject, it would be great if english managers smoked fags all the time like italian ones.
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link
― I hate myself, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link
The amount for slack that is cut in the UK for anything football related in pretty amazing.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 22 April 2004 05:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:37 (twenty years ago) link
I was thinking earlier that it might have been a studio tech who'd got pissed off with commentary such as the above, who could then have left the mike open. If this kind of thing is endemic amongst commentators, I'd certainly be well hacked off if I was lowly scum who couldn't complain for fear of my job. But I dunno, it might just be a mistake.
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:56 (twenty years ago) link
It's a shame. But no question, he had to go.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:58 (twenty years ago) link
HOW WE LARFFED.
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:06 (twenty years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 13 May 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― de, Thursday, 13 May 2004 19:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 13 May 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 14 May 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link
...but yes, i'd say this was worse than ron, at least he KNEW he'd done something wrong, not that that excuses saying it, of course...
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Tis true, tis true
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Pretty bleak viewing at points I thought. Can he relaunch his career?
― bert (bert), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 November 2004 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 23 January 2005 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link
!!!!hahaha
― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 23 January 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link
they keep mentioning the 'broadcast on Middle East TV' thing every bloody time. this is almost racism itself in the way that it implies people in the Middle East would actually be PERSONALLY offended by what Ron said ffs.
― Stevem On X (blueski), Sunday, 23 January 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 23 January 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Sunday, 23 January 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 23 January 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
"Bloocks"
― David Merryweather (DavidM), Sunday, 23 January 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, 'Sunday Sport columnist'. Sheesh.
― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 4 April 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I did not know about this. Well done, Dwight Yorke and Co.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link