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You Are In Charge Of A Hot Happening Young MTV-Ready Band. What Indie/Post-Punk/Etc Obscurity Do You Have Them Cover That Will Hit The Charts In A Heartbeat!

OleM (OleM), Monday, 19 July 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
In the morning after the night I fall in love with the night
it is so clear I realize and now I have my eyes
and on and on and on

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I suppose I might as well mention this. It was a great read, and I am now inspired to track down the remaining studio albums I'm missing (the two box sets, I dunno...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

what's the conventional wisdom on the Chris Carter solo CD the Space Between? Seems to me like some really cool minimal krafterk-esque and 808 electro kinda experiments. Just never see anyone talk about it.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

'the space between' is fabulous.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

psychic TV are playing live in a while...anyone planning to go?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link

my only issue with the Space Between is it's cover. I used to sit there and try to figure out, like which part of Cosey's body that is and how does it fold like that.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

my only issue with the Space Between is it's cover. I used to sit there and try to figure out, like which part of Cosey's body that is and how does it fold like that. ha ha! me too.

carter's 'mondo beat' is good too.

i have no plans to see ptv. every time i sa them back in the day they were nothing short of a total load of old toss.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The Simon Ford book on situationism was a bibliography; pretty dry, but also pretty darn interesting. That said, apparently he has a proper book due out realsoonnow.

Joshua Houk (chascarrillo), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just ordered Live at thee Astoria, since I finally found some audio clips from it, and it turns out that the bulk of it is from my fave Psychic TV album Live at the Circus.

See all the usual declaimers.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, while we're reviving this thread, does ANYBODY have an MP3 of "I.C. Water" that they'd be willing to share? I can't buy the thing anywhere that I've seen, and none of the music-stealing, er, music-sharing apps I've tried have been able to find it.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 9 October 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

so whos in psychic tv for the new tour?

big chaki (chaki), Saturday, 9 October 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Tantrum the Cat, if that's a real e-mail address, I'll send you a message. I have a copy of Origin of the Species which includes this track, and which I'd be willing to trade. (I don't have a way of copying it, or I'd just send you an mp3.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 9 October 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

See all the usual declaimers.

That was just a dumb mistake, but I like it.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 14 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

just link here and scroll down halfway to the obvious van photo:
http://genesisp-orridge.com/

Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

What did they do with the mix of "Voodoo Acid"? You can hardly hear the screaming and carrying on.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I need to buy head-phones.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh wait here we go, maybe the old version was edited down a bit. [Well, there are definitely new things here and maybe some old things missing, but it's working out okay.]

So anyway there's a generic PTV beginning at the start of the CD, with one of those JFK samples. Then you get the actual dedication, followed by "Beltane," which is mostly (surprisingly good) "tribal" sounding drumming, with some synthesizer sputterings.

"Beltane/Your Body/Twisted/Only Human" along with "Voodoo Acid" are the main reasons to want this, so far. Weird though even on "Depraved," this guitar solo is very classic rock, and if Genesis would shut up on this one it would be better. But on those first four songs, there are interesting musical things going on, perhaps entirely irrelevant to Genesis, but even he carries his own weight more than he usually does.

(Oh please, Genesis, no. This part didn't need to be added in.)
(Also left off a song I like with some very good cheesy LSD sounds.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 15 October 2004 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/OM/BA/PT/Yandrog.gif

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 15 October 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
'tg now' is perfect.

:| (....), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
ah

does that make you want to touch yourself? (nordicskilla), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I just picked up Wreckers of Civilization (despite the weighty price tag). Couldn't resist.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Ummmmmm.......wow.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

he actually looks like a chick i know.

EisbΓ€r (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

He looks disquietingly like a friend of mine's Mom.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

His posture there seems very deliberate.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

the chick that i know who looks like that thinks that she is REALLY HAWT. no kidding.

she isn't that hot. nor is her personality all that great, either.

EisbΓ€r (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
So, I finally tracked down a copy of Force the Hand of Chance by PTV, and I have to say that Chaki (on another thread) was right -- it really isn't my cup of tea. As much as I love TG and COIL, Force the Hand... really doesn't do much for me. I suppose I was hoping for something a bit more aggressive. While I can empathize with Gen's sentiments on "Just Drifting (For Caresse)" (basically a lovesong to his newborn daughter), I find the song intensely awful. It improves from there, but not by leaps and bounds. I don't regret picking it up, but I was really hoping for something else. Is the rest of their material comparable?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

What else have you heard, Alex? Not even "Godstar"?

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm usenditing some stuff to you (things I think are actually kind of good).

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

The funny/sad thing is how far my Psychic TV "favorites" have been pared down to practically nothing, almost all of which is offered with apologies. What was wrong with me in my mid-20s?

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"Twisted/Only Human" (from Live in Astora.)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"Elipse ov Flowers" nice overly Velvet Underground instrumental. (Xylophones? That's a nice touch.)

Thank you HTML syntax checker.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I can access those, RS.

I honestly haven't heard "Godstar" (though people have told me that's one worth searching for). I came quite close to picking up Live in Thee East Village at the same time I found Force the Hand..., but figured I should start with the one before I go on some sort've spree.

Each successive COIL disc i've managed to put my hand to, meanwhile, has been better than the last. That's probably why I was let down by PTV (I was hoping for a similarly revelatory experience). It's so rare nowadays for me to discover an artist with a huge back cataglog that I hand't appreciated before. Both COIL and PTV have more releases that you can shake a stick at, it seems.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh. Why wouldn't they work? Is it a work account. I emailed you directly (thru yousendit) so if I messed up the links above, you should still be able to get it that way (unless there's some technical thing I don't know about).

I haven't heard that much Coil, but I can definitely believe their output is superior to Psychic TV's (and even good). Kind of distant from where my taste has drifted, but I'd still like to hear more Coil eventually. The only one I have is Love's Secret Domain, which I mostly like, though not the vocals as much as everything else.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh. Why wouldn't they work?

I get this message: Your file has expired.
Unfortunately your file has expired. A link is valid for 7 days or 25 downloads, whichever occurs first. Once the link expires, the file is automatically deleted and cannot be recovered.

On Love's Secret Domain (which I don't, as yet, own), I've only really heard the title track (by way of a cassette-only Wax Trax sampler at the dawn of the 90's). I have Scatology, Horse Rotorvator (which I picked up on the strength of the raves of "scariest album ever" on ILM) and Unnatural History II (which features the infamous Hellraiser tracks....originally intended to serve as the film's score, but turned down as they were "too scary"). I've downloaded stuff from here and there. Their official website, Threshold House, promises to stock more of their stuff soon, but you can download snippets of their music on this site: http://www.brainwashed.com/coil/

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I just sent it today when I saw your posts. Weird.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I like the cassette version of Love's Secret Domain a little better than the CD, but maybe because I got used to that first. (It's shorter, the track order is different, and I think I remember that there are some changes in what some of the tracks sound like.)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Cheers for the Mp3's, RS! I'll give them a proper spin and report back. Thanky!!!!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Love's Secret Domain is classic, but don't expect the rest of it to really compare to the drama of the title track.. I just realized the other day that a friend and I have been quoting the spoken word off "Things Happen" at each other for a DECADE now.

"Baby, do you have a light? What's it like in Ohio?"

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you get all four, Alex?

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Got all four of'em, RS, yes. Thanks again! I'm at the office at the mo', so I cannot listen to them just yet, but will do later this evening and post my reactions.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i am slowly working my way through some of the hoarier stretches of back catalogue of andrew weatherall label affiliates.

i know weatherall released on p-orridge track under the name PT001 on a sabres of paradise compilation.

now i run across this on nina walsh's sabrettes label.

http://music.hyperreal.org/flightpath/label/sabrettes/images/sr025.jpg

this is sabrettes 025 : POD's "gestator EP". there is another EP by POD, called "PODville", and a few tracks compiled on a sabrettes compilation ("mollusk" and "geodesic")

discogs.com claims this POD is kenny larkin, but i am like "uhuhnoway" because the whole deal is absolutely undetroitish, totally british in attitude.

so my question is: is anybody familiar enough with genesis' pierced cock to make a positive ID based on that label?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I just lost my appetite.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

also i am kinda feeling the dj doktor megatrip material and kooky scientist (fred gianelli) is obv great. so is this acid tekno beat release recommended?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought you were made of sterner stuff, alex

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Just seen a new edition of Wreckers of Civilisation listed on Amazon for August. Anybody know anything about that?
Have been hoping that Cosey's memoir might prompt a new edition.

Stevolende, Monday, 8 May 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

there was supposed to be a repress in nov 2015 that amazon took my money for and eventually refunded. so i am skeptical. but would be awesome if it happened.

the late great, Monday, 8 May 2017 04:12 (six years ago) link

Appears to be legit, probably a straight reprint with no new material:

https://black-dog-publishing.myshopify.com/products/wreckers-of-civilisation

heaven parker (anagram), Monday, 8 May 2017 04:39 (six years ago) link

Shame about the no new material if that's true. I thought there had been so9me significant events since it was originally published, band reforming shortly, sleazy dying, back catalogue being remastered etc.
But have regretted not having got it before.

Stevolende, Monday, 8 May 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link

Having read Cosey's book, the criticism that Wreckers was overly Gencentric seems valid.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 8 May 2017 08:40 (six years ago) link

possibly, but I am still gonna snap this up if it finally becomes available again, thanks for the update.

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Doesn't seem to have appeared does it, Amazon is now saying 26th of october.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

sigh

sleeve, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

i like that when i google this one of the first hits is a listing for it on walmart.com

so Amazon US (for me) says August 31st, Black Dog Publishing website says October

circa1916, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

yes me too but they haven't charged my card yet

WE WILL SEE

the late great, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

"arriving monday" ← believe it when i see it

the late great, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

fuck, I might as well try to preorder this again

sleeve, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

"Temporarily Out of Stock Online"

πŸ‘ (am0n), Thursday, 31 August 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

Sux2bu

Amazon is preparing mine for shipment

Or so they would have me believe

the late great, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

that was from the b&n listing. i just ordered on amazon so πŸ–•!

πŸ‘ (am0n), Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

and i got coseys book from my library

πŸ‘ (am0n), Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

πŸ–•πŸ–•πŸ–•

the late great, Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

odds of me getting my book - at least 10 to 1 against

the late great, Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

at least by monday anyway

the late great, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

Arriving tomorrow by 8 PM
Not yet shipped

uh huh

the late great, Monday, 4 September 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

Your order contained an item that is no longer scheduled for release. This may be because the item was discontinued or replaced by a newer version.

We canceled this portion of your order and you will not be billed for it.

sleeve, Friday, 15 September 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

We Guarantee Disappointment

heaven parker (anagram), Friday, 15 September 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

late great, how's that book so far πŸ˜†

am0n, Monday, 16 October 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link


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