GROUPER "Way Their Crept" --- CONTACT

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hahaha, that's what everybody I have played any Grouper at all for says. "what is this crap? that's not even music."

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

Just play them some Stars Of The Lid and tell them to STFU

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

I was similarly somewhat disappointed. It's not like she screwed up or anything, either. She just wasn't aiming for the same kind of sound as on dragging a dead deer up a hill. But that for me is her standout release, so while I enjoy this new material for what it is, i've ended up listening through these about as much as I listened to her earliest releases - 3-4 times each - rather than the many dozens of timed I've listened to DDD.

Z S, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

I love SotL more than just about anything on this shitty planet, btw!

Z S, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

i can't decide whether it's crap or beautiful. there's something about 'dead deer' that's really moving.

i think with the excess of shitwavegazebrochillwitchhouse or whatever the fuck it is you kids do these days, its hard to tell whether stuff in this circle of drone music has been well crafted, or is just plain no-effort-let-the-pedals-do-the-work garbage

jumpskins, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

actually no it's not hard to tell at all, it's either shit or not, but uh, it's changed the way people approach and appreciate stuff.

jumpskins, Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

The early stuff esp 'Wide' and 'Way Their Crept' is still awesome to me.. 'DDD' was shocking to hear at first, and is less of a straight ambient record than the others.. 'AIA' seems halfway, but less dense than the pre-'DDD' material.

think with the excess of shitwavegazebrochillwitchhouse or whatever the fuck it is you kids do these days, its hard to tell whether stuff in this circle of drone music has been well crafted, or is just plain no-effort-let-the-pedals-do-the-work garbage

It doesn't matter if it sounds good

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

The early stuff esp 'Wide' and 'Way Their Crept' is still awesome to me.. 'DDD' was shocking to hear at first, and is less of a straight ambient record than the others.. 'AIA' seems halfway, but less dense than the pre-'DDD' material.

think with the excess of shitwavegazebrochillwitchhouse or whatever the fuck it is you kids do these days, its hard to tell whether stuff in this circle of drone music has been well crafted, or is just plain no-effort-let-the-pedals-do-the-work garbage

It doesn't matter if it sounds good

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

'dead deer' is ok, ive never been all that impressed w/ her music but im really not sure what the point of her 'music' even is, it seem p bereft of any ideas, also its not really enjoyable to listen to so

funperson (Lamp), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

That's a shame

Yeah okay I don't need to hear this album (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

you can post that twice

funperson (Lamp), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

I think the idea here is taking a lo-fi, indie sound as a starting point and then blur the edges and stretch everything out (in some cases more radically than others). not exactly novel but I think she pulls it off and I wouldn't say the music is bereft of ideas even if it isn't heavily conceptual.

original bgm, Friday, 13 May 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

Just wait until her MTV Unplugged CD comes out.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 13 May 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

backed by the roots

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

"Slow Walkers is a new collaborative project between Australian sound artist Lawrence English and ambient pop artist Liz Harris, aka Grouper. It's a multi-media project about zombies that will take the form of an album, video installations and a live audio-visual concert." (http://p4k.in/trPvwA)

http://vimeo.com/30846604

Pretty stoked for this. Lawrence English's The Peregrine LP is one of my highlights of the year.

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Monday, 31 October 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Lawrence English's The Peregrine LP is one of my highlights of the year.

oh really? what's it like? i think he's real interesting but haven't really heard any of his solo stuff. the tenniscoats lp he recorded is special.

Local Christian Blues (schlump), Monday, 31 October 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Here's a sample http://bit.ly/sbtPOM and a great piece on The Liminal http://bit.ly/ulpeYw.

I've been a fan since the two Digitalis vinyl reissues of A Colour For Autumn and Kiri No Oto so was primed for a new one.

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 08:26 (twelve years ago) link

A Colour For Autumn is fantastic, pretty excited to hear this news.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link

Great interview with Liz in the new Wire, I was totally clueless on the biographical stuff. Mostly about her upbringing as a member of a cult-ish commune called The Group and the influence of that on her music.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

the peregrine is indeed beautiful

sisilafami, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

OOH tell me more about the cult

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 November 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, from what I can remember, it was a commune based at a large estate in the Sonoran mountains that was into Fourth Way spirituality. Children were encouraged to think of the group as one big family and consequently were persistenly moved around between different sets of parents. They were given a lot of freedom to roam around the estate and so spent a lot of time outdoors, but apparently Liz Harris didn't mix with anyone from outside the community until she was eleven when she got sent off to public school, where obviously she was a complete outsider. This was when I think the commune was collapsing anyway.

Meanwhile, her father had left the commune previous to this and as a result Liz didn't feel wholly a part of the group but was instead was in this limbo between that and the outside world. The article then goes on to talk about this theme of inbetween states as a central part of her work. It was useful!

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

(also Manuel Göttsching is on the cover, it's a nice issue!)

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

i wish that magazine weren't so expensive! is the Göttsching article long? worth reading?

also wow, what a mess of words here:

is never without some task around which and in connection with which it can alone exist. When this work is finished, that is to say, when the aim set before it has been accomplished, the fourth way disappears, that is, it disappears from the given place, disappears in its given form, continuing perhaps in another place in another form. Schools of the fourth way exist for the needs of the work which is being carried out in connection with the proposed undertaking. They never exist by themselves as schools for the purpose of education and instruction.

cults are so interesting

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I'm not sure I completely understand that wiki entry, it's still about as clear as mud to me.

The Göttsching piece is pretty much focussed entirely on E2-E4 btw. Haven't read it yet though.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

^^ That makes me want to buy it even more

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

there's also a piece about sandwell district

sisilafami, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

The Visitor 12" by Grouper & Ilyas Ahmed is available from http://littleaxerecords.com, under distributed titles.

I'd been looking for it for a while.

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 09:17 (twelve years ago) link

“Spent the last two weeks writing sketches/demos for forthcoming collaboration between me and Grouper for the upcoming Ninja Tune Bug album.”

http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/11/the-bug-working-with-grouper-on-new-album/

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, very interested in how that's going to turn out

Chris S, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

Me too! Maybe like a droney lo-fi, dubbed out version of Liz Frasier with Massive Attack?

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

err, Liz Fraser obv

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

totally, in a general sense, although hopefully very much its own thing as well

it's nice seeing this new Ethereal/Witchy Girls + Beats sound happening in a lot of places, as that's prob one of my fav combinations ever

Chris S, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46RQCMGjZU

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Friday, 2 March 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

THIS IS LIKE A DREAM COLLAB

ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Albums out in a couple of weeks time on Kranky (which makes sense cos the sound of that song is 100% pure essence of Kranky tbh).

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

anyone hear this yet?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

I've only given it a couple of cursory listens on spotify while I've been doing other things so I've not really formed a full impression of it yet, but it seems to be nicely split between dronier ambient soundscapes and folkier tunes with acoustic guitar (which I guess is the Tiny Viper side of things? Don't really know her work very well).

This song is very, very lovely btw and the most immediate track on the record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmERm-l2_uc

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

^ top ten track of the year sort of stuff for me i would say

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

Enjoying Jesy Fortino's voice on this, reminds me a bit of Marcy Mays from Scrawl. Definitely going to have to listen to more Tiny Vipers.

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

tiny vipers - life on earth is in my top 10 of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kUEgu2edI

i like the mirrorring album quite a bit, but it's hard to separate it from my overwhelming expectations and desires for a new tiny vipers album

grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

tiny vipers - life on earth is in my top 10 of all time

Am listening to this album right now btw. It's good!

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

folkier tunes with acoustic guitar (which I guess is the Tiny Viper side of things? Don't really know her work very well).

yep, the song-oriented stuff is straight from Tiny Vipers' two Sub Pop albums, both gorgeous, but way more straightforward and tuneful than Liz' work as Grouper. the Mirrorring album is lovely and strikes pretty much an exact midpoint between their two styles. i wrote about it here in detail.

ilxor, Sunday, 8 April 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like the AIA double album is getting a CD release on Kranky at some point in the near future. That'll be nice.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 8 April 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

yesssssss!!

ilxor, Sunday, 8 April 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

oh that's cool.

the mirroring record is nice. liz quietly harmonising with/echoing tiny vipers is gorgeous.

& i went to see grouper's tape loop thing a couple of weeks ago, & only caught the end. swirly.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like the AIA double album is getting a CD release on Kranky at some point in the near future. That'll be nice.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

and probably cheaper than buying the FLAC files, this is good news.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

goodness me this mirroring album is beautiful.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

finally got my finances sorted and ordered a copy. I will read it with my copy of the Diablo III art book since they are coming in the same package.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link


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